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		<title>By: Our Morning Roundup: Doored&#8211;Again - City Desk - Washington City Paper</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/07/new-professionalism-roundup-9/comment-page-1/#comment-260732</link>
		<dc:creator>Our Morning Roundup: Doored&#8211;Again - City Desk - Washington City Paper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Speaking of Radley Balko: If you give two shits about police raiding the home of a watchdog blogger, a police chief who retaliated against officers for participating in internal affairs investigations, and &#8220;police officers facing civil rights lawsuits&#8221; who plead ignorance of the law as their defense, then I suggest you add the Agitator to your RSS reader. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Speaking of Radley Balko: If you give two shits about police raiding the home of a watchdog blogger, a police chief who retaliated against officers for participating in internal affairs investigations, and &#8220;police officers facing civil rights lawsuits&#8221; who plead ignorance of the law as their defense, then I suggest you add the Agitator to your RSS reader. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bronwyn</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/07/new-professionalism-roundup-9/comment-page-1/#comment-259879</link>
		<dc:creator>Bronwyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ohhh... *sigh*

Bronwyn fails Reading Comprehension 101

Time for my nap, it seems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ohhh&#8230; *sigh*</p>
<p>Bronwyn fails Reading Comprehension 101</p>
<p>Time for my nap, it seems.</p>
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		<title>By: Bronwyn</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/07/new-professionalism-roundup-9/comment-page-1/#comment-259878</link>
		<dc:creator>Bronwyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the Twitter feed: &quot;NY judge tosses suit by ex-cop who claimed cocaine in his blood was transferred during sex with his girlfriend&quot;

Wha... ?

NY judge failed pass/fail course on Birds and Bees 101.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Twitter feed: &#8220;NY judge tosses suit by ex-cop who claimed cocaine in his blood was transferred during sex with his girlfriend&#8221;</p>
<p>Wha&#8230; ?</p>
<p>NY judge failed pass/fail course on Birds and Bees 101.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike T</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/07/new-professionalism-roundup-9/comment-page-1/#comment-259867</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That, and once again we have a case of a confidential informant who makes outrageous allegations over his previous employer who had every reason to fire him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That, and once again we have a case of a confidential informant who makes outrageous allegations over his previous employer who had every reason to fire him.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike T</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/07/new-professionalism-roundup-9/comment-page-1/#comment-259866</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.codemonkeyramblings.com/2009/04/if-this-stands-itll-no-longer-be-legally-safe-to-have-a-data-center-in-the-united-states&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here is another case&lt;/a&gt; for the new professionalism roundup. The FBI has bankrupted several businesses (with more on the way) because it seized an entire data center rather than take the time to figure out which parts of the data center were being used for criminal purposes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.codemonkeyramblings.com/2009/04/if-this-stands-itll-no-longer-be-legally-safe-to-have-a-data-center-in-the-united-states" rel="nofollow">Here is another case</a> for the new professionalism roundup. The FBI has bankrupted several businesses (with more on the way) because it seized an entire data center rather than take the time to figure out which parts of the data center were being used for criminal purposes.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Caldwell</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/07/new-professionalism-roundup-9/comment-page-1/#comment-259791</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Caldwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the Twitter link, RB. Added that to my RSS subscriptions to Google News and Reason, and my email subscriptions to LEAP and Stop the Drug War. Oh, and that Agitator fella.

Keeping up with justice system abuse is getting easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the Twitter link, RB. Added that to my RSS subscriptions to Google News and Reason, and my email subscriptions to LEAP and Stop the Drug War. Oh, and that Agitator fella.</p>
<p>Keeping up with justice system abuse is getting easy.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg C</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/07/new-professionalism-roundup-9/comment-page-1/#comment-259740</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 06:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Columbus Ohio police tried to execute a guy for shoplifting tonight. They are in full force on the TV justifying their self-defense because it is proven that a car is a deadly weapon ( guy was driving away and ran into an undercover car that blocked the lane).

I havent seen Jim Gilbert yet.. I am interested in seeing if he has physically turned into an actual pig or if he just has the same resemblance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Columbus Ohio police tried to execute a guy for shoplifting tonight. They are in full force on the TV justifying their self-defense because it is proven that a car is a deadly weapon ( guy was driving away and ran into an undercover car that blocked the lane).</p>
<p>I havent seen Jim Gilbert yet.. I am interested in seeing if he has physically turned into an actual pig or if he just has the same resemblance.</p>
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		<title>By: Lior</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/07/new-professionalism-roundup-9/comment-page-1/#comment-259680</link>
		<dc:creator>Lior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 01:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That police errors are always excusable is a fundamental tenet of the US system and applies to both errors of law and errors of judgment.

An officer shooting a non-threatening unarmed citizen makes an &quot;unfortunate mistake&quot;.  A citizen shooting an armed and masked intruder who just broke the door down is a &quot;cop killer&quot;.

Similarly, if it seems to you that someone committed a felony in front of you, you are guilty of false arrest if it later turns out this wasn&#039;t a felony.  The police officer will not face any consequences for arresting you knowing that you didn&#039;t commit any crime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That police errors are always excusable is a fundamental tenet of the US system and applies to both errors of law and errors of judgment.</p>
<p>An officer shooting a non-threatening unarmed citizen makes an &#8220;unfortunate mistake&#8221;.  A citizen shooting an armed and masked intruder who just broke the door down is a &#8220;cop killer&#8221;.</p>
<p>Similarly, if it seems to you that someone committed a felony in front of you, you are guilty of false arrest if it later turns out this wasn&#8217;t a felony.  The police officer will not face any consequences for arresting you knowing that you didn&#8217;t commit any crime.</p>
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		<title>By: KBCraig</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/07/new-professionalism-roundup-9/comment-page-1/#comment-259679</link>
		<dc:creator>KBCraig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 01:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I believe the translation, here, is that while citizens can’t plead ignorance of the law as a defense, police officers facing civil rights lawsuits apparently can.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Earlier today I read a great quote on one of the New Hampshire liberty activist forums (isn&#039;t it great that such a small state has enough activity for several forums?)

&quot;I don&#039;t expect the police to know all the laws. But I do expect them to know the laws they&#039;re ENFORCING RIGHT NOW.&quot;

If the officer can&#039;t name the offense and find the statutory cite in his code book in less than a minute, then he truly has no idea what the law is, and is just arresting and hoping to find an violation that matches the conduct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I believe the translation, here, is that while citizens can’t plead ignorance of the law as a defense, police officers facing civil rights lawsuits apparently can.</p></blockquote>
<p>Earlier today I read a great quote on one of the New Hampshire liberty activist forums (isn&#8217;t it great that such a small state has enough activity for several forums?)</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t expect the police to know all the laws. But I do expect them to know the laws they&#8217;re ENFORCING RIGHT NOW.&#8221;</p>
<p>If the officer can&#8217;t name the offense and find the statutory cite in his code book in less than a minute, then he truly has no idea what the law is, and is just arresting and hoping to find an violation that matches the conduct.</p>
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		<title>By: JS</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/07/new-professionalism-roundup-9/comment-page-1/#comment-259665</link>
		<dc:creator>JS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only reason that Bellaire cop got indicted was because of the publicity that case received.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only reason that Bellaire cop got indicted was because of the publicity that case received.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew S.</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/07/new-professionalism-roundup-9/comment-page-1/#comment-259660</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 22:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahcuah,

What you&#039;re suggesting is great in theory but, unfortunately, wouldn&#039;t work in practice.

You&#039;re going to have two types of people who would take such a position:

1. Former legislators or executive branch members who, while it&#039;s been a long time since they&#039;ve worked in such a capacity, &quot;know what it&#039;s like&quot;, or still have many friends in the branch, and won&#039;t be quick to punish for those &quot;minor transgressions that everyone does&quot;

2. People with future aspirations to get into the executive, judicial or legislative branches. They&#039;re not going to be the ones to burn any bridges, lest they ruin their own chances in the future.

It&#039;s kind of like Internal Affairs departments with police departments -- ostensibly, they&#039;re supposed to be a separate body, somewhat walled off from &quot;normal&quot; police work that judges the actions of the police and punishes accordingly. In practice, it doesn&#039;t quite work that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahcuah,</p>
<p>What you&#8217;re suggesting is great in theory but, unfortunately, wouldn&#8217;t work in practice.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re going to have two types of people who would take such a position:</p>
<p>1. Former legislators or executive branch members who, while it&#8217;s been a long time since they&#8217;ve worked in such a capacity, &#8220;know what it&#8217;s like&#8221;, or still have many friends in the branch, and won&#8217;t be quick to punish for those &#8220;minor transgressions that everyone does&#8221;</p>
<p>2. People with future aspirations to get into the executive, judicial or legislative branches. They&#8217;re not going to be the ones to burn any bridges, lest they ruin their own chances in the future.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s kind of like Internal Affairs departments with police departments &#8212; ostensibly, they&#8217;re supposed to be a separate body, somewhat walled off from &#8220;normal&#8221; police work that judges the actions of the police and punishes accordingly. In practice, it doesn&#8217;t quite work that way.</p>
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		<title>By: chsw</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/07/new-professionalism-roundup-9/comment-page-1/#comment-259627</link>
		<dc:creator>chsw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 21:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.  The &quot;investigatory&quot; records withheld from the public should result in the dismissal of any charges brought against any defendant who runs into that BS explanation.  Any lawyer worth a damn should claim that these videos, audios, etc. contain exculpatory evidence.

2.  Of course, everyone knows that you cannot have an &quot;accredited web site&quot; unless the site owner has registered with the US Treasury and taken Web Asset Regulatory Program (WARP) funds.

chsw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.  The &#8220;investigatory&#8221; records withheld from the public should result in the dismissal of any charges brought against any defendant who runs into that BS explanation.  Any lawyer worth a damn should claim that these videos, audios, etc. contain exculpatory evidence.</p>
<p>2.  Of course, everyone knows that you cannot have an &#8220;accredited web site&#8221; unless the site owner has registered with the US Treasury and taken Web Asset Regulatory Program (WARP) funds.</p>
<p>chsw</p>
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		<title>By: pegr</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/07/new-professionalism-roundup-9/comment-page-1/#comment-259623</link>
		<dc:creator>pegr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 21:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahcuah,

I get what your saying.  It goes against the grain of minimal government, but I can see the direction you&#039;re going.  

Of course, if the state was in a mind-set to enact self-policing, we wouldn&#039;t need this body of yours.  You&#039;ve got a chicken/egg problem there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahcuah,</p>
<p>I get what your saying.  It goes against the grain of minimal government, but I can see the direction you&#8217;re going.  </p>
<p>Of course, if the state was in a mind-set to enact self-policing, we wouldn&#8217;t need this body of yours.  You&#8217;ve got a chicken/egg problem there.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahcuah</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/07/new-professionalism-roundup-9/comment-page-1/#comment-259615</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahcuah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thomasblair,

I&#039;m afraid I don&#039;t get what your objection is. You seem to object to &quot;more of the state&quot; but I made it quite clear that the custodians would have NO power over any regular citizen. Their whole purpose would be to harass (in some way--ok, make that &quot;keep honest&quot;) the rulers of the state, and by rulers of the state I mean those specifically working for the government.

Think of it as another check on government (since the legislative/executive/judicial check originally built in to the Constitution seems to have been subverted).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thomasblair,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid I don&#8217;t get what your objection is. You seem to object to &#8220;more of the state&#8221; but I made it quite clear that the custodians would have NO power over any regular citizen. Their whole purpose would be to harass (in some way&#8211;ok, make that &#8220;keep honest&#8221;) the rulers of the state, and by rulers of the state I mean those specifically working for the government.</p>
<p>Think of it as another check on government (since the legislative/executive/judicial check originally built in to the Constitution seems to have been subverted).</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Krueger</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/07/new-professionalism-roundup-9/comment-page-1/#comment-259614</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Krueger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Picking on cops for illegal parking is just going to make them do it more often as a lesson to teach you who&#039;s boss.  It&#039;s the same kind of rebellious temper tantrum commonly found in children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Picking on cops for illegal parking is just going to make them do it more often as a lesson to teach you who&#8217;s boss.  It&#8217;s the same kind of rebellious temper tantrum commonly found in children.</p>
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		<title>By: thomasblair</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/07/new-professionalism-roundup-9/comment-page-1/#comment-259605</link>
		<dc:creator>thomasblair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahcuah,

&lt;blockquote&gt;Qui custodiet ipsos custodes?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Judging from your comment, I don&#039;t think you really understand what this means.

&lt;blockquote&gt;They would only have jurisdiction over persons in the other three branches, and would be guaranteed a budget of at least 5% (or some other reasonable number) of the executive branch (so that the legislature couldn’t make them go away). Also, no one could be a Custodian if they had been a member of the other three branches within the previous 10 years. And finally, laws would have to apply equally to members of the other three branches–no special exceptions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ahh, just what we need - more of the state.

&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s clear that current internal investigations and the like simply do not work.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You know why this is, right? It&#039;s because it&#039;s the state investigating...the state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahcuah,</p>
<blockquote><p>Qui custodiet ipsos custodes?</p></blockquote>
<p>Judging from your comment, I don&#8217;t think you really understand what this means.</p>
<blockquote><p>They would only have jurisdiction over persons in the other three branches, and would be guaranteed a budget of at least 5% (or some other reasonable number) of the executive branch (so that the legislature couldn’t make them go away). Also, no one could be a Custodian if they had been a member of the other three branches within the previous 10 years. And finally, laws would have to apply equally to members of the other three branches–no special exceptions.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ahh, just what we need &#8211; more of the state.</p>
<blockquote><p>It’s clear that current internal investigations and the like simply do not work.</p></blockquote>
<p>You know why this is, right? It&#8217;s because it&#8217;s the state investigating&#8230;the state.</p>
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		<title>By: michaelk42</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/07/new-professionalism-roundup-9/comment-page-1/#comment-259598</link>
		<dc:creator>michaelk42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Nothing in the (public access laws) provides that the exception applies only to ongoing or open investigations,” Neal wrote in her decision. “Nothing provides that records covered under the exception must be disclosed once an investigation is complete.”

Basically a useful exploit if you want to cover something up indefinitely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Nothing in the (public access laws) provides that the exception applies only to ongoing or open investigations,” Neal wrote in her decision. “Nothing provides that records covered under the exception must be disclosed once an investigation is complete.”</p>
<p>Basically a useful exploit if you want to cover something up indefinitely.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahcuah</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/07/new-professionalism-roundup-9/comment-page-1/#comment-259595</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahcuah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It ain&#039;t going to happen, but I&#039;ve long thought that we need to amend the Constitution to add a fourth branch of government: The Custodial Branch. As is &lt;i&gt;Qui custodiet ipsos custodes?&lt;/i&gt;

They would only have jurisdiction over persons in the other three branches, and would be guaranteed a budget of at least 5% (or some other reasonable number) of the executive branch (so that the legislature couldn&#039;t make them go away). Also, no one could be a Custodian if they had been a member of the other three branches within the previous 10 years. And finally, laws would have to apply equally to members of the other three branches--no special exceptions.

It&#039;s clear that current internal investigations and the like simply do not work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It ain&#8217;t going to happen, but I&#8217;ve long thought that we need to amend the Constitution to add a fourth branch of government: The Custodial Branch. As is <i>Qui custodiet ipsos custodes?</i></p>
<p>They would only have jurisdiction over persons in the other three branches, and would be guaranteed a budget of at least 5% (or some other reasonable number) of the executive branch (so that the legislature couldn&#8217;t make them go away). Also, no one could be a Custodian if they had been a member of the other three branches within the previous 10 years. And finally, laws would have to apply equally to members of the other three branches&#8211;no special exceptions.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s clear that current internal investigations and the like simply do not work.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Leatherwood</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/07/new-professionalism-roundup-9/comment-page-1/#comment-259594</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Leatherwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bellaire City Manager Bernie Satterwhite, however, said “it should go without saying that this (indictment) is far from a finding that Sgt. Cotton actually did anything improper in connection with the incident. ... he is, like any individual, innocent until proved guilty through a trial.”

Funny how they respond when they are on the receiving end of an indictment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bellaire City Manager Bernie Satterwhite, however, said “it should go without saying that this (indictment) is far from a finding that Sgt. Cotton actually did anything improper in connection with the incident. &#8230; he is, like any individual, innocent until proved guilty through a trial.”</p>
<p>Funny how they respond when they are on the receiving end of an indictment.</p>
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		<title>By: MacGregory</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/04/07/new-professionalism-roundup-9/comment-page-1/#comment-259593</link>
		<dc:creator>MacGregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...‘an unaccredited grassroots Web site.’”

1) Who is the &quot;authority&quot; that hands out web site accreditation anyway? Radley: I demand to see your papers!
2) There is no need to make this shit up. Its all TOO real.

&quot;...it isn’t necessarily unreasonable for a police officer to interpret someone recording him as a criminal act, and to arrest the person doing the recording.&quot;

In other words, you will only be arrested if the police officer IS the criminal actor. Either way they&#039;re taking your camera, phone and any large amount of cash you may be carrying. It&#039;s evidence ya know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;‘an unaccredited grassroots Web site.’”</p>
<p>1) Who is the &#8220;authority&#8221; that hands out web site accreditation anyway? Radley: I demand to see your papers!<br />
2) There is no need to make this shit up. Its all TOO real.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;it isn’t necessarily unreasonable for a police officer to interpret someone recording him as a criminal act, and to arrest the person doing the recording.&#8221;</p>
<p>In other words, you will only be arrested if the police officer IS the criminal actor. Either way they&#8217;re taking your camera, phone and any large amount of cash you may be carrying. It&#8217;s evidence ya know.</p>
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