Comments on: This Week in Innocence http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/30/this-week-in-innocence-6/ It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:23:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2 By: Gonzo http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/30/this-week-in-innocence-6/comment-page-1/#comment-257056 Gonzo Tue, 31 Mar 2009 00:02:20 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=12637#comment-257056 You forgot this one, Balko: http://www.theonion.com/content/video/dna_evidence_frees_black_man?utm_source=a-section Only way you'd know it's fiction is that the police department apologizes. You forgot this one, Balko:

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/dna_evidence_frees_black_man?utm_source=a-section

Only way you’d know it’s fiction is that the police department apologizes.

]]> By: Z http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/30/this-week-in-innocence-6/comment-page-1/#comment-256980 Z Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:42:57 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=12637#comment-256980 I'm confused as to why Mr. Watkins' work is considered extraordinary or groundbreaking. After all, if the wrong guy goes to jail, the right guy is out there free to committ more crimes? Are DA's who refuse to operate like Mr. Watkins soft on crime? I’m confused as to why Mr. Watkins’ work is considered extraordinary or groundbreaking. After all, if the wrong guy goes to jail, the right guy is out there free to committ more crimes? Are DA’s who refuse to operate like Mr. Watkins soft on crime?

]]> By: Big Chief http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/30/this-week-in-innocence-6/comment-page-1/#comment-256896 Big Chief Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:06:01 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=12637#comment-256896 From the U of C article on the wrongfully convicted rapist in Ohio: After 30 years as an attorney, Petro confided, "I do believe the system works well, but it is imperfect. This reminds us to never be so convinced otherwise." About 5 years of reading The Agitator has convinced be that the system DOESN'T work well. There is some major reform needed and we seem to be a long way from getting it! From the U of C article on the wrongfully convicted rapist in Ohio:
After 30 years as an attorney, Petro confided, “I do believe the system works well, but it is imperfect. This reminds us to never be so convinced otherwise.”

About 5 years of reading The Agitator has convinced be that the system DOESN’T work well. There is some major reform needed and we seem to be a long way from getting it!

]]> By: Zeb http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/30/this-week-in-innocence-6/comment-page-1/#comment-256874 Zeb Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:54:33 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=12637#comment-256874 Is there a strict legal definition for what constitutes "reasonable doubt"? I would think that in any case where there is only one eye witness and not much physical evidence there is always reasonable doubt. But using my definition of reasonable doubt, there would be a pretty high bar to get any conviction without some pretty solid physical evidence or multiple eye witnesses. Is there a strict legal definition for what constitutes “reasonable doubt”? I would think that in any case where there is only one eye witness and not much physical evidence there is always reasonable doubt. But using my definition of reasonable doubt, there would be a pretty high bar to get any conviction without some pretty solid physical evidence or multiple eye witnesses.

]]> By: Dave Krueger http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/30/this-week-in-innocence-6/comment-page-1/#comment-256870 Dave Krueger Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:46:12 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=12637#comment-256870 There you got that pesky Innocence Project following right behind the gummit undoing all their work. I s'pose next they're gonna be tearing up roads right after the gummit builds 'em. It's amazin' we git anythin' done 'round here what with people nit-pickin' about it not being quite as perfect as they'd like. If we'd execute these bastards right after they was convicted, we wouldn't have them all gettin' off on these technicalities. There you got that pesky Innocence Project following right behind the gummit undoing all their work. I s’pose next they’re gonna be tearing up roads right after the gummit builds ‘em. It’s amazin’ we git anythin’ done ’round here what with people nit-pickin’ about it not being quite as perfect as they’d like. If we’d execute these bastards right after they was convicted, we wouldn’t have them all gettin’ off on these technicalities.

]]> By: fwb http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/30/this-week-in-innocence-6/comment-page-1/#comment-256864 fwb Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:37:31 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=12637#comment-256864 Rad, Did you read the article last week about the serial killer DNA in Germany? http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/bild-english/world-news/2009/03/26/phantom-killer-a-myth/police-track-DNA-of-cotton-bud-maker-for-two-years.html Yeah. I can trust that DNA. Nothing less than two eye witnesses to the same crime should be required to even begin any process. THEY (the state) always have the power to fudge things. Sometimes they get caught but most times they do not. Dominus providebit! Rad,

Did you read the article last week about the serial killer DNA in Germany?

http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/bild-english/world-news/2009/03/26/phantom-killer-a-myth/police-track-DNA-of-cotton-bud-maker-for-two-years.html

Yeah. I can trust that DNA.

Nothing less than two eye witnesses to the same crime should be required to even begin any process. THEY (the state) always have the power to fudge things. Sometimes they get caught but most times they do not.

Dominus providebit!

]]> By: Marty http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/30/this-week-in-innocence-6/comment-page-1/#comment-256855 Marty Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:14:10 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=12637#comment-256855 anymore, is law enforcement ever really about justice? anymore, is law enforcement ever really about justice?

]]> By: J http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/30/this-week-in-innocence-6/comment-page-1/#comment-256846 J Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:46:23 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=12637#comment-256846 I think wrongful prosecution/incarceration/execution is one of the most frightning aspects of living in today's "free" society. Just the thought that our legal system (sigh--still not a justice system) could do this to so many people for so long without thoroughly re-examining the processes behind the scenes is such an incredible injustice to all Americans. There's a reason more and more people are becoming agoraphobic: going outside and being seen in public can be pretty scary these days. Who knows what you can be accused of: - Walking passed a playground, you turn to look at the kids before rounding a corner = you're a pedophile - Turning your head to look at a cute girl who is showing far too much cleavage = sexual harassment aka you're probably a rapist - Wearing a hat and coat inside a gas station = potential robber I think wrongful prosecution/incarceration/execution is one of the most frightning aspects of living in today’s “free” society. Just the thought that our legal system (sigh–still not a justice system) could do this to so many people for so long without thoroughly re-examining the processes behind the scenes is such an incredible injustice to all Americans.

There’s a reason more and more people are becoming agoraphobic: going outside and being seen in public can be pretty scary these days. Who knows what you can be accused of:

- Walking passed a playground, you turn to look at the kids before rounding a corner = you’re a pedophile
- Turning your head to look at a cute girl who is showing far too much cleavage = sexual harassment aka you’re probably a rapist
- Wearing a hat and coat inside a gas station = potential robber

]]> By: Kristen http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/30/this-week-in-innocence-6/comment-page-1/#comment-256832 Kristen Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:18:36 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=12637#comment-256832 When is Watkins up for re-election? I want to do what I can for his campaign, even though I don't live in Dallas When is Watkins up for re-election? I want to do what I can for his campaign, even though I don’t live in Dallas

]]> By: Kristen http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/30/this-week-in-innocence-6/comment-page-1/#comment-256828 Kristen Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:10:31 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=12637#comment-256828 Good stuff. After the Dallas SWAT sh*tfest, Discovery owes it to the viewers to show something good. Good stuff. After the Dallas SWAT sh*tfest, Discovery owes it to the viewers to show something good.

]]> By: ktc2 http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/30/this-week-in-innocence-6/comment-page-1/#comment-256821 ktc2 Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:00:47 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=12637#comment-256821 My personal non scientific estimate puts about 66% of the people currently in prison as either a) not guilty of the crime they are charged with or b) guilty of doing some thing that should not be a crime. Sadly that means that the real perpetrators all those real crimes for which innocents have been convicted are still out there to continue the violence. My personal non scientific estimate puts about 66% of the people currently in prison as either a) not guilty of the crime they are charged with or b) guilty of doing some thing that should not be a crime.

Sadly that means that the real perpetrators all those real crimes for which innocents have been convicted are still out there to continue the violence.

]]> By: pam http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/30/this-week-in-innocence-6/comment-page-1/#comment-256814 pam Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:52:39 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=12637#comment-256814 ya gotta wonder how many innocent people Texas has executed. ya gotta wonder how many innocent people Texas has executed.

]]> By: pam http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/30/this-week-in-innocence-6/comment-page-1/#comment-256812 pam Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:51:52 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=12637#comment-256812 wow-powerful wow-powerful

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