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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Creeping tyranny and the war on drugs - E.D. Kain - American Times - True/Slant</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/26/that-didnt-take-long-6/comment-page-1/#comment-394021</link>
		<dc:creator>Creeping tyranny and the war on drugs - E.D. Kain - American Times - True/Slant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 19:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] scratch – it’s been creeping up on us for decades &#8211; but I wish he’d do more than just laugh it off when confronted with the very real problems and tragedies that this stupid, expensive war on drugs [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] scratch – it’s been creeping up on us for decades &#8211; but I wish he’d do more than just laugh it off when confronted with the very real problems and tragedies that this stupid, expensive war on drugs [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Phelps</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/26/that-didnt-take-long-6/comment-page-1/#comment-255320</link>
		<dc:creator>Phelps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theagitator.com/2009/02/27/holder-says-no-more-federal-medical-marijuana-raids/#comment-246485&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;feel vindicated&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I <a href="http://www.theagitator.com/2009/02/27/holder-says-no-more-federal-medical-marijuana-raids/#comment-246485" rel="nofollow">feel vindicated</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Chance</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/26/that-didnt-take-long-6/comment-page-1/#comment-255230</link>
		<dc:creator>Chance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with some of the comments above, and they square with what I and others have said:  supporting recreational drug legalization, in any form, is a no-win situation for Obama and most other politicians.  His snarky comments (which did disapoint me) will not piss off most left wing legalization proponants enough to not vote for him next time, and most libertarians probably weren&#039;t voting for him in the first place.  

Let&#039;s say he HAD said something like &quot;Good point, there are pluses and minuses to that argument, but we should at least explore the possibility of legalizing marijuana&quot;.  The next 3 news cycles would have been dominated by talking heads and pundits from groups with words like &quot;Family&quot;, &quot;Children&quot;, &quot;Drug Free&quot;, and &quot;Concerned&quot; in their titles.   Republicans would have had a field day, police groups would be up in arms, and many dems would have turned on him as well. 

High risk, low reward to support ending the drug war.  You have to get the biggest voting blocks on your side first, and then you&#039;ll provide enough cover for the politicians to act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with some of the comments above, and they square with what I and others have said:  supporting recreational drug legalization, in any form, is a no-win situation for Obama and most other politicians.  His snarky comments (which did disapoint me) will not piss off most left wing legalization proponants enough to not vote for him next time, and most libertarians probably weren&#8217;t voting for him in the first place.  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say he HAD said something like &#8220;Good point, there are pluses and minuses to that argument, but we should at least explore the possibility of legalizing marijuana&#8221;.  The next 3 news cycles would have been dominated by talking heads and pundits from groups with words like &#8220;Family&#8221;, &#8220;Children&#8221;, &#8220;Drug Free&#8221;, and &#8220;Concerned&#8221; in their titles.   Republicans would have had a field day, police groups would be up in arms, and many dems would have turned on him as well. </p>
<p>High risk, low reward to support ending the drug war.  You have to get the biggest voting blocks on your side first, and then you&#8217;ll provide enough cover for the politicians to act.</p>
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		<title>By: ghjost</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/26/that-didnt-take-long-6/comment-page-1/#comment-255170</link>
		<dc:creator>ghjost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 05:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol @ Greg N. 

AAAAAAARRRRGH! *thud*

good grief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol @ Greg N. </p>
<p>AAAAAAARRRRGH! *thud*</p>
<p>good grief.</p>
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		<title>By: The Agitator &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Lethality of Marijuana Prohibition</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/26/that-didnt-take-long-6/comment-page-1/#comment-255164</link>
		<dc:creator>The Agitator &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Lethality of Marijuana Prohibition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 04:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sullivan chides Obama for his churlish response to questions about decriminalizing marijuana earlier today. Sullivan writes that the issue is [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Chaney</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/26/that-didnt-take-long-6/comment-page-1/#comment-255146</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Chaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 03:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m for full legalization and I&#039;ve never used any illegal drugs.  And, yes, growing up in Indiana I was exposed to MJ quite a bit.  The only alcohol I&#039;ve ever drank is wine.  And even if everything was legal, I still have no interest in using any of it.

It&#039;s not just stoners who care about these things.

I&#039;m not going to begin to go into why I believe in legalization, it would take more space than I have here and more time than I have now.  Suffice it to say I believe alcohol prohibition is a fine example of both sides of the coin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m for full legalization and I&#8217;ve never used any illegal drugs.  And, yes, growing up in Indiana I was exposed to MJ quite a bit.  The only alcohol I&#8217;ve ever drank is wine.  And even if everything was legal, I still have no interest in using any of it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just stoners who care about these things.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to begin to go into why I believe in legalization, it would take more space than I have here and more time than I have now.  Suffice it to say I believe alcohol prohibition is a fine example of both sides of the coin.</p>
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		<title>By: MacGregory</title>
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		<dc:creator>MacGregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 03:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul Armentano has a good response for this over at NORML. And, as you can imagine, some fiery comments follow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Armentano has a good response for this over at NORML. And, as you can imagine, some fiery comments follow.</p>
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		<title>By: claude</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/26/that-didnt-take-long-6/comment-page-1/#comment-255113</link>
		<dc:creator>claude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 01:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, after having nothing else to do and reading forums around the internet, i think the obama might get called out on this one. The way he handled that question seems to be a pretty hot topic this evening. The peeps are not happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, after having nothing else to do and reading forums around the internet, i think the obama might get called out on this one. The way he handled that question seems to be a pretty hot topic this evening. The peeps are not happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt D</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/26/that-didnt-take-long-6/comment-page-1/#comment-255091</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 00:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still not sure what anyone expects of Obama here. How exactly do you think the media and the GOP would react to Obama declaring support for legalization? He&#039;d be shredded, and pointlessly so, since there is no way that such a bill would ever make it through congress to his desk in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still not sure what anyone expects of Obama here. How exactly do you think the media and the GOP would react to Obama declaring support for legalization? He&#8217;d be shredded, and pointlessly so, since there is no way that such a bill would ever make it through congress to his desk in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: claude</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/26/that-didnt-take-long-6/comment-page-1/#comment-255072</link>
		<dc:creator>claude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The war on drugs has been an utter failure. We need to rethink and decriminalize our nation&#039;s marijuana laws.&quot; -Barack Obama, January 2004</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The war on drugs has been an utter failure. We need to rethink and decriminalize our nation&#8217;s marijuana laws.&#8221; -Barack Obama, January 2004</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Bowers</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/26/that-didnt-take-long-6/comment-page-1/#comment-255068</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon Bowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama was one of the vocal supporters of the TARP bailout despite 200 leading economists submitting an open letter arguing against it. He has no more intellectual curiosity than Bush did, he&#039;s already made up his mind on every issue and simply dismisses anyone who disagrees with him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama was one of the vocal supporters of the TARP bailout despite 200 leading economists submitting an open letter arguing against it. He has no more intellectual curiosity than Bush did, he&#8217;s already made up his mind on every issue and simply dismisses anyone who disagrees with him.</p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>these people who open the clinics invest their time and money and passion into these businesses just to have it all taken away on the whim of the govt. Imagine some govt assholes taking your car (or any other property) on a whim. 

time for Jim Bell!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>these people who open the clinics invest their time and money and passion into these businesses just to have it all taken away on the whim of the govt. Imagine some govt assholes taking your car (or any other property) on a whim. </p>
<p>time for Jim Bell!</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another note: MSNBC has been doing a surprisingly decent job covering the Mexican drug war and the issue of marijuana legalization. I have heard an MSNBC newscaster ask whether legalizing marijuana in the US would have the effect of crippling the drug cartels in Mexico TWICE today.  In both cases, the newscaster criticized Obama for simply laughing off the matter at the town hall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another note: MSNBC has been doing a surprisingly decent job covering the Mexican drug war and the issue of marijuana legalization. I have heard an MSNBC newscaster ask whether legalizing marijuana in the US would have the effect of crippling the drug cartels in Mexico TWICE today.  In both cases, the newscaster criticized Obama for simply laughing off the matter at the town hall.</p>
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		<title>By: z</title>
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		<dc:creator>z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he doesn&#039;t think legalizing marijuana or cocaine is a good policy, I demand that he turn himself in to authorities and confess his crimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he doesn&#8217;t think legalizing marijuana or cocaine is a good policy, I demand that he turn himself in to authorities and confess his crimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg N.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the wake of the bailout bonanza I&#039;ve been pretty disappointed with Obama. But in conversation, I&#039;ve been saying, &quot;But, he&#039;s been great on medical marijuana.&quot; Should&#039;ve known it would work out this way. I feel like Lucy just pulled the ball out from under the collective Charlie Brown voters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the wake of the bailout bonanza I&#8217;ve been pretty disappointed with Obama. But in conversation, I&#8217;ve been saying, &#8220;But, he&#8217;s been great on medical marijuana.&#8221; Should&#8217;ve known it would work out this way. I feel like Lucy just pulled the ball out from under the collective Charlie Brown voters.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t really get worked up over either incident.

Re. the DEA raid, it&#039;s hard to tell what &quot;alleged financial improprieties related to the payment of sales taxes&quot; means, but it could be a fancy way of saying &quot;we think they were dealing on the side&quot; which obviously would merit a raid.

Re. the pot questions--it&#039;d be nice to see him take a stand for legalization or at least discuss it in depth, but I&#039;m not sure what the point would be, given that it&#039;s congress that would have to actually act on the issue, and support in congress seems lukewarm at best (not to mention a large portion of congress seems determined to oppose in the strongest way possible just about anything that Obama suggests, wants, or supports).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t really get worked up over either incident.</p>
<p>Re. the DEA raid, it&#8217;s hard to tell what &#8220;alleged financial improprieties related to the payment of sales taxes&#8221; means, but it could be a fancy way of saying &#8220;we think they were dealing on the side&#8221; which obviously would merit a raid.</p>
<p>Re. the pot questions&#8211;it&#8217;d be nice to see him take a stand for legalization or at least discuss it in depth, but I&#8217;m not sure what the point would be, given that it&#8217;s congress that would have to actually act on the issue, and support in congress seems lukewarm at best (not to mention a large portion of congress seems determined to oppose in the strongest way possible just about anything that Obama suggests, wants, or supports).</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With respect to the DEA raids, I highly doubt it has anything to do with what Holder announced.  I don&#039;t think Holder and Obama are stupid enough to make a statement only to completely defy it a few days later.  Seems to me the DEA is simply a rogue agency that is now looking for new ways to continue their activities.

The way Obama handled the legalization question is disappointing.  He didn&#039;t have to answer the question with respect to the economy, he simply did that to make the question sound more ridiculous. I guess the lowly internet users aren&#039;t good enough to engage in conversation with representatives at a town hall. The newspapers have been asking the legalization questions in editorials all over the country. If one of these papers could pose the question at a press conference, maybe while discussing the Mexican drug war, we might see a more serious response. It really isn&#039;t a hard question to answer, even if you want to be &quot;politically safe.&quot;  Simply say you will charter a commission to study the issue and that will be good enough for me, at least for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With respect to the DEA raids, I highly doubt it has anything to do with what Holder announced.  I don&#8217;t think Holder and Obama are stupid enough to make a statement only to completely defy it a few days later.  Seems to me the DEA is simply a rogue agency that is now looking for new ways to continue their activities.</p>
<p>The way Obama handled the legalization question is disappointing.  He didn&#8217;t have to answer the question with respect to the economy, he simply did that to make the question sound more ridiculous. I guess the lowly internet users aren&#8217;t good enough to engage in conversation with representatives at a town hall. The newspapers have been asking the legalization questions in editorials all over the country. If one of these papers could pose the question at a press conference, maybe while discussing the Mexican drug war, we might see a more serious response. It really isn&#8217;t a hard question to answer, even if you want to be &#8220;politically safe.&#8221;  Simply say you will charter a commission to study the issue and that will be good enough for me, at least for now.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you look at the top ten questions for each category &quot;Marijuana - Legalize it&quot; and variations of that theme show up under the headings of:

Healthcare reform #2
Green Jobs and Energy #1 &amp; #2
Financial Stability #1, #2, #3,#4
Jobs #1, #3
Budget #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7

Appropriateness of category questions aside, just as a simple experiment in responded to the people, he should&#039;ve made an actual real honest statement about the topic when there was such a clear and strong interest in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you look at the top ten questions for each category &#8220;Marijuana &#8211; Legalize it&#8221; and variations of that theme show up under the headings of:</p>
<p>Healthcare reform #2<br />
Green Jobs and Energy #1 &amp; #2<br />
Financial Stability #1, #2, #3,#4<br />
Jobs #1, #3<br />
Budget #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7</p>
<p>Appropriateness of category questions aside, just as a simple experiment in responded to the people, he should&#8217;ve made an actual real honest statement about the topic when there was such a clear and strong interest in it.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehe, those silly drug raddled losers who submit questions to the president on the &quot;internet&quot;.</description>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Fritz said.</description>
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