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		<title>By: April 7 roundup</title>
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		<dc:creator>April 7 roundup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 04:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Georgia&#8217;s sex offender law, like Illinois&#8217;s, covers persons who never committed a sex crime [Balko] [...]</description>
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		<title>By: the friendly grizzly</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/20/morning-links-162/comment-page-1/#comment-253419</link>
		<dc:creator>the friendly grizzly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 34: you get a hearty plus 1 from me on that.  

Years ago, I knew this really great couple. These two guys were fine people. One of their neighbors was obsessed with the goings-on with these two, and went to the neighbors and complained.

Finally, one of my friends knocked on the man&#039;s door, told him to cut the nonsense out, and closed the conversation with &quot;Perhaps if you had a sex life of your own, you&#039;d not be so obsessed with mine&quot;.

That right there probably explains the puritanism our nation is steeped in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 34: you get a hearty plus 1 from me on that.  </p>
<p>Years ago, I knew this really great couple. These two guys were fine people. One of their neighbors was obsessed with the goings-on with these two, and went to the neighbors and complained.</p>
<p>Finally, one of my friends knocked on the man&#8217;s door, told him to cut the nonsense out, and closed the conversation with &#8220;Perhaps if you had a sex life of your own, you&#8217;d not be so obsessed with mine&#8221;.</p>
<p>That right there probably explains the puritanism our nation is steeped in.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuchundra</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/20/morning-links-162/comment-page-1/#comment-253225</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuchundra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 21:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The USA is still a Puritan nation. There are puritans on the right and puritans on the left. Neither side has a monopoly on this kind of stupidity.

Things would run a lot better if fewer people were concerned about what their neighbors do with their penises and vaginas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The USA is still a Puritan nation. There are puritans on the right and puritans on the left. Neither side has a monopoly on this kind of stupidity.</p>
<p>Things would run a lot better if fewer people were concerned about what their neighbors do with their penises and vaginas.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Krueger</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/20/morning-links-162/comment-page-1/#comment-253211</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Krueger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 21:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, I added that to my wish list.  Although I&#039;m rarely able to read as much as I like, I&#039;m always reading at least one book.  That one sounds interesting and I&#039;m over due for some fiction.

Your comments remind me of when I was a kid.  My parents were ultra-conservatives and they had friends who were members of an organization called the Minutemen.  We had a shooting range in our basement so they would come over use it.  They would also use our mailing address to get a lot of literature about how to make bombs and booby traps, which I thought was really cool.  This was before the Anarchist&#039;s Cookbook, though.  Their plan was to take back the United States if the Communists ever took over.  The organization was apparently under investigation by the FBI at the time, because they came around to ask questions.  

Being the pacifist pussy that I am now, my life is much more boring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, I added that to my wish list.  Although I&#8217;m rarely able to read as much as I like, I&#8217;m always reading at least one book.  That one sounds interesting and I&#8217;m over due for some fiction.</p>
<p>Your comments remind me of when I was a kid.  My parents were ultra-conservatives and they had friends who were members of an organization called the Minutemen.  We had a shooting range in our basement so they would come over use it.  They would also use our mailing address to get a lot of literature about how to make bombs and booby traps, which I thought was really cool.  This was before the Anarchist&#8217;s Cookbook, though.  Their plan was to take back the United States if the Communists ever took over.  The organization was apparently under investigation by the FBI at the time, because they came around to ask questions.  </p>
<p>Being the pacifist pussy that I am now, my life is much more boring.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/20/morning-links-162/comment-page-1/#comment-253144</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The scary part is that the insanity is increasing in severity. It’s as if we’re traveling back through time to the dark ages.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Dave-

This might actually be a good thing, as terrible as it seems. I&#039;d encourage you to find a copy of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Devils-Advocate-Taylor-Caldwell/dp/0515078646/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1237571523&amp;sr=8-3&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Devil&#039;s Advocate&lt;/i&gt; by Taylor Caldwell.&lt;/a&gt; It&#039;s an Orwellian story about a facist government taking over the USA. It hits pretty close to home, including a highly feared agency called the &quot;Federal Bureau of Household Security.&quot; 

The jist of it is that the government has been infiltrated by the Minutemen, who are tasked with making the government so oppressive that the people have no choice but to rebel. People had readily given their freedom away in the name of &#039;security&#039; and got neither. The Minutemen felt that the only way to keep the country free after the revolution was to make people revile the facists to the point where they would never be allowed to return to power. 

Great book, worth reading if you&#039;re worried about the direction this country is going in. Difficult to find a copy, but I&#039;m sure the used sellers on Amazon can find you one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The scary part is that the insanity is increasing in severity. It’s as if we’re traveling back through time to the dark ages.</p></blockquote>
<p>Dave-</p>
<p>This might actually be a good thing, as terrible as it seems. I&#8217;d encourage you to find a copy of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0515078646/theagitator-20/" rel="nofollow"><i>Devil&#8217;s Advocate</i> by Taylor Caldwell.</a> It&#8217;s an Orwellian story about a facist government taking over the USA. It hits pretty close to home, including a highly feared agency called the &#8220;Federal Bureau of Household Security.&#8221; </p>
<p>The jist of it is that the government has been infiltrated by the Minutemen, who are tasked with making the government so oppressive that the people have no choice but to rebel. People had readily given their freedom away in the name of &#8216;security&#8217; and got neither. The Minutemen felt that the only way to keep the country free after the revolution was to make people revile the facists to the point where they would never be allowed to return to power. </p>
<p>Great book, worth reading if you&#8217;re worried about the direction this country is going in. Difficult to find a copy, but I&#8217;m sure the used sellers on Amazon can find you one.</p>
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		<title>By: MacGregory</title>
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		<dc:creator>MacGregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#25 David
&quot;...the application of such laws are an attempt to bury the accused under so many charges that one of them sticks.&quot;

Absolutely. And the state has made sure that they have a multitude of laws to choose from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#25 David<br />
&#8220;&#8230;the application of such laws are an attempt to bury the accused under so many charges that one of them sticks.&#8221;</p>
<p>Absolutely. And the state has made sure that they have a multitude of laws to choose from.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald A</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/20/morning-links-162/comment-page-1/#comment-253107</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerald A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A big difference between &quot;deployment of troops&quot; and MP&#039;s &quot;came in to help with traffic control and to secure the crime scene&quot;.

Several times in my years in the military, working in base security, assisted local law inforcement.  Give you a big hint, MP authority outside the base is very, very limited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A big difference between &#8220;deployment of troops&#8221; and MP&#8217;s &#8220;came in to help with traffic control and to secure the crime scene&#8221;.</p>
<p>Several times in my years in the military, working in base security, assisted local law inforcement.  Give you a big hint, MP authority outside the base is very, very limited.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/20/morning-links-162/comment-page-1/#comment-253100</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Back in their squad car, Rivera said he questioned Porter as to why he jumped on the kid. &quot;Officer Porter said, &#039;I don&#039;t know why I do that. It&#039;s just something I do lately. I guess I just like the way they sound.&#039; &quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I hope that cop meets a very, very bad end.  That is just sadistic and indicates someone who is mentally unstable and it is just a matter of time before he kills someone.  Removing him from the force wont be enough, he needs to either be locked up or put down like a rabid dog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Back in their squad car, Rivera said he questioned Porter as to why he jumped on the kid. &#8220;Officer Porter said, &#8216;I don&#8217;t know why I do that. It&#8217;s just something I do lately. I guess I just like the way they sound.&#8217; &#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p>I hope that cop meets a very, very bad end.  That is just sadistic and indicates someone who is mentally unstable and it is just a matter of time before he kills someone.  Removing him from the force wont be enough, he needs to either be locked up or put down like a rabid dog.</p>
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		<title>By: Zargon</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/20/morning-links-162/comment-page-1/#comment-253097</link>
		<dc:creator>Zargon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;a cop steps up and does the right thing and sees this pos cop walk… do you think he’ll stick his neck out again?&quot;

Do you think they&#039;ll have the chance?  My money&#039;s on those two officers being sent to look for new jobs in the not too distant future.  Or worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;a cop steps up and does the right thing and sees this pos cop walk… do you think he’ll stick his neck out again?&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you think they&#8217;ll have the chance?  My money&#8217;s on those two officers being sent to look for new jobs in the not too distant future.  Or worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Mattocracy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/20/morning-links-162/comment-page-1/#comment-253095</link>
		<dc:creator>Mattocracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Dave,

Tell me about it.  The way liberals attack sex is through the whole &quot;exploitation&quot; angle.  There are many a feminist out there that will call a 17 year boy a sexual predator for &quot;taking advantage&quot; of another teenage girl who is just a sexually active.  The notion that men are the aggressors (penetrators as I see it) and women are the victims is a notion perpetuated by &quot;progressives&quot; just as much as it is by convervatives.

I think a bigger problem is how we view children.  They aren&#039;t stupid and ignorant until the magic age of 18 when they are suddenly an adult.  They participate willingly and wantingly in sex whether anyone likes it or not.  But children are property much like women used to be treated.  And when your property goes out and willingly ruins her virginity that GOP daddy owned, someone has to pay.  Not his little angel of course, but that punk no good kid.  And women have to be protected from themselves whether we&#039;re talking about sex, smoking, fatty foods, etc.  Nanny state mommy will see to that as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Dave,</p>
<p>Tell me about it.  The way liberals attack sex is through the whole &#8220;exploitation&#8221; angle.  There are many a feminist out there that will call a 17 year boy a sexual predator for &#8220;taking advantage&#8221; of another teenage girl who is just a sexually active.  The notion that men are the aggressors (penetrators as I see it) and women are the victims is a notion perpetuated by &#8220;progressives&#8221; just as much as it is by convervatives.</p>
<p>I think a bigger problem is how we view children.  They aren&#8217;t stupid and ignorant until the magic age of 18 when they are suddenly an adult.  They participate willingly and wantingly in sex whether anyone likes it or not.  But children are property much like women used to be treated.  And when your property goes out and willingly ruins her virginity that GOP daddy owned, someone has to pay.  Not his little angel of course, but that punk no good kid.  And women have to be protected from themselves whether we&#8217;re talking about sex, smoking, fatty foods, etc.  Nanny state mommy will see to that as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Krueger</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/20/morning-links-162/comment-page-1/#comment-253063</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Krueger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;#20   Mattocracy 

I agree that our laws regarding sex are stupid, but people don’t push these rediculous views of sex because of religion. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I agree completely.  I read a book a while back called America&#039;s War on Sex&quot; written by Marty Klein.  The guy basically blames everything on the conservative right.  While the book does an excellent job of describing how pervasive the war on sex actually is, it&#039;s so one-sided that it lacks credibility as an objective viewpoint.  Not to let the self-righteous religious crusaders off the hook by any means, sex laws are usually passed almost unanimously.  They&#039;re not a uniquely conservative by any stretch.

I also found it interesting that the book, while prominently discussing sex toy laws, doesn&#039;t consider prostitution laws even worth mentioning.  Not even an entry in the index.   I wonder why prostitution wouldn&#039;t even get a mention in a book about America&#039;s War on Sex...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>#20   Mattocracy </p>
<p>I agree that our laws regarding sex are stupid, but people don’t push these rediculous views of sex because of religion. </p></blockquote>
<p>I agree completely.  I read a book a while back called America&#8217;s War on Sex&#8221; written by Marty Klein.  The guy basically blames everything on the conservative right.  While the book does an excellent job of describing how pervasive the war on sex actually is, it&#8217;s so one-sided that it lacks credibility as an objective viewpoint.  Not to let the self-righteous religious crusaders off the hook by any means, sex laws are usually passed almost unanimously.  They&#8217;re not a uniquely conservative by any stretch.</p>
<p>I also found it interesting that the book, while prominently discussing sex toy laws, doesn&#8217;t consider prostitution laws even worth mentioning.  Not even an entry in the index.   I wonder why prostitution wouldn&#8217;t even get a mention in a book about America&#8217;s War on Sex&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/20/morning-links-162/comment-page-1/#comment-253055</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;For instance, when I think of kidnapping, I think of an acutal forced abduction of a person, usually for held for ransom. But is it really kidnapping when an armed robber orders his victims from one room to another? Is it really false imprisonment when an armed robber orders his victim to lay still on the ground? Seems a stretch to me, but I’m not a lawyer.&lt;/i&gt;

Neither am I, but to me, the application of such laws are an attempt to bury the accused under so many charges that one of them sticks.  Prosecutors might not be able to prove the &quot;actual crime&quot; that a person has been accused of, so having easier to prove lesser charges is a big weapon in their arsenal.  One that helps induce plea deals by placing guilty and innocent(in the sense that they didn&#039;t commit the main crime) parties in a position where the risk of going to trial is huge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>For instance, when I think of kidnapping, I think of an acutal forced abduction of a person, usually for held for ransom. But is it really kidnapping when an armed robber orders his victims from one room to another? Is it really false imprisonment when an armed robber orders his victim to lay still on the ground? Seems a stretch to me, but I’m not a lawyer.</i></p>
<p>Neither am I, but to me, the application of such laws are an attempt to bury the accused under so many charges that one of them sticks.  Prosecutors might not be able to prove the &#8220;actual crime&#8221; that a person has been accused of, so having easier to prove lesser charges is a big weapon in their arsenal.  One that helps induce plea deals by placing guilty and innocent(in the sense that they didn&#8217;t commit the main crime) parties in a position where the risk of going to trial is huge.</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd Durkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boyd Durkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thread jack:

“Paying excessive bonuses to the same group of folks (AIG) that helped get us into this crisis is simply unacceptable,” said Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus while completely ignoring the irony of his statement and checking his bank statement online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thread jack:</p>
<p>“Paying excessive bonuses to the same group of folks (AIG) that helped get us into this crisis is simply unacceptable,” said Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus while completely ignoring the irony of his statement and checking his bank statement online.</p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/20/morning-links-162/comment-page-1/#comment-253050</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a cop steps up and does the right thing and sees this pos cop walk... do you think he&#039;ll stick his neck out again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a cop steps up and does the right thing and sees this pos cop walk&#8230; do you think he&#8217;ll stick his neck out again?</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Grassley (what a misnomer of a name in this context) is pissed it also means that the administration will feel the heat in confirmation hearings for the drug czar. Grassley is on Judiciary.

We need to be ready to argue for a legislative solution to the legalization argument since there is a good chance that Obama will be forced to back away from their new policy if the drug warriors get nuts enough in the confirmation hearings. Reform minded folks should be pushing our representatives in congress now for legislation to support the Obama policy. Congress is the only place where this can happen.

If they don&#039;t hear it from us they won&#039;t hear it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Grassley (what a misnomer of a name in this context) is pissed it also means that the administration will feel the heat in confirmation hearings for the drug czar. Grassley is on Judiciary.</p>
<p>We need to be ready to argue for a legislative solution to the legalization argument since there is a good chance that Obama will be forced to back away from their new policy if the drug warriors get nuts enough in the confirmation hearings. Reform minded folks should be pushing our representatives in congress now for legislation to support the Obama policy. Congress is the only place where this can happen.</p>
<p>If they don&#8217;t hear it from us they won&#8217;t hear it.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/20/morning-links-162/comment-page-1/#comment-253048</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re the army deployment in the Alabama shooting,

“We only have a five-man police department,” he told CNSNews.com. “We had officers from all surrounding areas helping out.”

I understand they were under-staffed and needed help, but I&#039;ll bet the next sentence that was not printed was &quot;We&#039;re going to need a couple of armored vehicles, some assault weapons, and a SWAT team to use them to avoid this ever happening again.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re the army deployment in the Alabama shooting,</p>
<p>“We only have a five-man police department,” he told CNSNews.com. “We had officers from all surrounding areas helping out.”</p>
<p>I understand they were under-staffed and needed help, but I&#8217;ll bet the next sentence that was not printed was &#8220;We&#8217;re going to need a couple of armored vehicles, some assault weapons, and a SWAT team to use them to avoid this ever happening again.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mattocracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mattocracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ ktc2,

I agree that our laws regarding sex are stupid, but people don&#039;t push these rediculous views of sex because of religion.  That&#039;s just the vehicle they use.  Take some feminists&#039; view of pornography, prostitution, and strip clubs.  They are opposed to these things because they supposedly &quot;exploit women.&quot;  They aren&#039;t driven by Bible thumping.  People are assholes because they are assholes, their religion or their politics is just how they apply their horrible character to others.</description>
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<p>I agree that our laws regarding sex are stupid, but people don&#8217;t push these rediculous views of sex because of religion.  That&#8217;s just the vehicle they use.  Take some feminists&#8217; view of pornography, prostitution, and strip clubs.  They are opposed to these things because they supposedly &#8220;exploit women.&#8221;  They aren&#8217;t driven by Bible thumping.  People are assholes because they are assholes, their religion or their politics is just how they apply their horrible character to others.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re.  Georgia

Besides the problem of declaring a person a sex offender when there was no sexual offense involved, was the false imprisonment and kidnapping charges the perps faced.  I suppose the laws regarding these two offenses are so broadly defined that ordering a person to lay still on the ground or move to another room legally qualifies, but it seems over the top to me.  

For instance, when I think of kidnapping, I think of an acutal forced abduction of a person, usually for held for ransom.  But is it really kidnapping when an armed robber orders his victims from one room to another?  Is it really false imprisonment when an armed robber orders his victim to lay still on the ground?  Seems a stretch to me, but I&#039;m not a lawyer.

Just seems like another case of abuse of the law by prosecutors and politicians.</description>
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<p>Besides the problem of declaring a person a sex offender when there was no sexual offense involved, was the false imprisonment and kidnapping charges the perps faced.  I suppose the laws regarding these two offenses are so broadly defined that ordering a person to lay still on the ground or move to another room legally qualifies, but it seems over the top to me.  </p>
<p>For instance, when I think of kidnapping, I think of an acutal forced abduction of a person, usually for held for ransom.  But is it really kidnapping when an armed robber orders his victims from one room to another?  Is it really false imprisonment when an armed robber orders his victim to lay still on the ground?  Seems a stretch to me, but I&#8217;m not a lawyer.</p>
<p>Just seems like another case of abuse of the law by prosecutors and politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure that&#039;s strictly true, ktc2.  My theory is that (some)people built their discomfort about sex into religion rather than the other way around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure that&#8217;s strictly true, ktc2.  My theory is that (some)people built their discomfort about sex into religion rather than the other way around.</p>
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		<title>By: ktc2</title>
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		<dc:creator>ktc2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We will never be free of these ridiculous puritanical consentual sex laws until religion has been properly relegated to the dustbin of history. In the ensuing centuries many more innocent peaceful lives will be ruined by these &quot;moral&quot; crusaders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We will never be free of these ridiculous puritanical consentual sex laws until religion has been properly relegated to the dustbin of history. In the ensuing centuries many more innocent peaceful lives will be ruined by these &#8220;moral&#8221; crusaders.</p>
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