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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/19/morning-links-161/comment-page-2/#comment-253194</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding that &quot;dog people&quot; thing -- a dog performs oral sex on a pig -- how can you charge the pig under a bestiality statute?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding that &#8220;dog people&#8221; thing &#8212; a dog performs oral sex on a pig &#8212; how can you charge the pig under a bestiality statute?</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/19/morning-links-161/comment-page-2/#comment-253138</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Balko, FYI: the link to the Carlson piece is actually a print link, which means that anyone who clicks through is then prompted to print the page.  That probably wasn&#039;t intended.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Balko, FYI: the link to the Carlson piece is actually a print link, which means that anyone who clicks through is then prompted to print the page.  That probably wasn&#8217;t intended.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to see Carlson does not hold a grudge for Stewart ending his career.  Crossfire was a polarizing pointless show.  All it was about was getting two people to argue across the table and no consensus reached.  I was very glad when Stewart showed up and pointed out the show&#039;s absurdity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see Carlson does not hold a grudge for Stewart ending his career.  Crossfire was a polarizing pointless show.  All it was about was getting two people to argue across the table and no consensus reached.  I was very glad when Stewart showed up and pointed out the show&#8217;s absurdity.</p>
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		<title>By: andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you on John Stewart.  His show has gone downhill ever since the election in it.  I thought it was just because he couldn&#039;t make fun of Obama, but in reality the writing has just been terrible.  Anyway, his attack on Cramer was pretty stupid, and I only heard about it through the news channels because I don&#039;t watch the show much anymore.  After I heard it a few times, I wondered why Stewart would keep attacking Cramer. He never gets that serious about jokes and it&#039;s just weird to see him try to be that serious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you on John Stewart.  His show has gone downhill ever since the election in it.  I thought it was just because he couldn&#8217;t make fun of Obama, but in reality the writing has just been terrible.  Anyway, his attack on Cramer was pretty stupid, and I only heard about it through the news channels because I don&#8217;t watch the show much anymore.  After I heard it a few times, I wondered why Stewart would keep attacking Cramer. He never gets that serious about jokes and it&#8217;s just weird to see him try to be that serious.</p>
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		<title>By: old</title>
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		<dc:creator>old</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 06:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#43 &#124;   Chris in AL &#124;  March 19th, 2009 at 3:32 pm

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&lt;i&gt;Does Congress have the authority to implement a new tax on money that has already been paid?&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t believe it will get past the Senate, and if it does, the law will be declared un-constitutional.  Of course, as another poster stated the constitution means less and less.  But I think where money is involved the constitution still has some strength, after all taxing these bonuses isn&#039;t the same as torturing terrorists, or torturing people who you payed other people to say were terrorists.  We shall see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#43 |   Chris in AL |  March 19th, 2009 at 3:32 pm</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p><i>Does Congress have the authority to implement a new tax on money that has already been paid?</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe it will get past the Senate, and if it does, the law will be declared un-constitutional.  Of course, as another poster stated the constitution means less and less.  But I think where money is involved the constitution still has some strength, after all taxing these bonuses isn&#8217;t the same as torturing terrorists, or torturing people who you payed other people to say were terrorists.  We shall see.</p>
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		<title>By: Samsam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samsam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 02:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding retroactive tax increases:
http://www.heritage.org/research/taxes/hl613.cfm

In short, no problem, it&#039;s been done many times before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding retroactive tax increases:<br />
<a href="http://www.heritage.org/research/taxes/hl613.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.heritage.org/research/taxes/hl613.cfm</a></p>
<p>In short, no problem, it&#8217;s been done many times before.</p>
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		<title>By: Larcenia J. Bullard, D-Miami</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larcenia J. Bullard, D-Miami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 02:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I warned you!</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to see Shafer keeping the Post&#039;s feet in the fire. I&#039;ve admired his work since I first read it in the Washington City Paper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to see Shafer keeping the Post&#8217;s feet in the fire. I&#8217;ve admired his work since I first read it in the Washington City Paper.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it was interesting that the woman with the laptop thought she was going to get her ex in trouble. Then, they find, only, her video. Nothing on him.  

I see that as justice!  I guess, I, also, see it as a lesson in &quot;what goes around comes around&quot;.  If she would have not tried to screw her ex over, her indiscretions would never have been discovered.  But when you find yourself up to your ass in alligators, remember, all you set out to do was drain the swamp!

She screwed herself!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it was interesting that the woman with the laptop thought she was going to get her ex in trouble. Then, they find, only, her video. Nothing on him.  </p>
<p>I see that as justice!  I guess, I, also, see it as a lesson in &#8220;what goes around comes around&#8221;.  If she would have not tried to screw her ex over, her indiscretions would never have been discovered.  But when you find yourself up to your ass in alligators, remember, all you set out to do was drain the swamp!</p>
<p>She screwed herself!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Really? Good points? It was one long personal attack that attempted to make Stewart look like he was “crazy”. Have you jumped the shark?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Just curious you really think that without Cramer we&#039;d not be in the current financial mess we are in?  That was what Stewart was implying.

And the idea of sitting on the biggest new story of the last 50 years to....what exactly?

Sure maybe Carlson has a grudge to settle, but c&#039;mon those two things sound laughably stupid.

If these two claims stand up despite Carlson&#039;s personal animosity towards Stewart, then Radley is right, he does have a point or two that make sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Really? Good points? It was one long personal attack that attempted to make Stewart look like he was “crazy”. Have you jumped the shark?</p></blockquote>
<p>Just curious you really think that without Cramer we&#8217;d not be in the current financial mess we are in?  That was what Stewart was implying.</p>
<p>And the idea of sitting on the biggest new story of the last 50 years to&#8230;.what exactly?</p>
<p>Sure maybe Carlson has a grudge to settle, but c&#8217;mon those two things sound laughably stupid.</p>
<p>If these two claims stand up despite Carlson&#8217;s personal animosity towards Stewart, then Radley is right, he does have a point or two that make sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Radley Balko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Radley Balko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Have you jumped the shark?&lt;/em&gt;

I have no idea what that means. Are you suggesting I&#039;m pulling ridiculous, shameless stunts in a desperate attempt to boost my sagging readership? Because that&#039;s what &quot;jumping the shark&quot; would mean in this context.

I don&#039;t see any ridiculous stunts. I&#039;m not desperate. And my readership is going up, not down.

I seem to have written a couple sentences you disagree with. 

Get over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Have you jumped the shark?</em></p>
<p>I have no idea what that means. Are you suggesting I&#8217;m pulling ridiculous, shameless stunts in a desperate attempt to boost my sagging readership? Because that&#8217;s what &#8220;jumping the shark&#8221; would mean in this context.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see any ridiculous stunts. I&#8217;m not desperate. And my readership is going up, not down.</p>
<p>I seem to have written a couple sentences you disagree with. </p>
<p>Get over it.</p>
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		<title>By: Warren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I sick for wanting that bestiality report read to me by Bill O&#039;Reilly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I sick for wanting that bestiality report read to me by Bill O&#8217;Reilly?</p>
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		<title>By: EdinTally</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/03/19/morning-links-161/comment-page-2/#comment-252866</link>
		<dc:creator>EdinTally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Radley,

Re: Tucker

Really?  Good points?  It was one long personal attack that attempted to make Stewart look like he was &quot;crazy&quot;.  Have you jumped the shark?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radley,</p>
<p>Re: Tucker</p>
<p>Really?  Good points?  It was one long personal attack that attempted to make Stewart look like he was &#8220;crazy&#8221;.  Have you jumped the shark?</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd Durkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boyd Durkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When they came for the AIG bonuses (in a reaction to the mob), I said nothing...

And when they come for you and me, no one will stop them.

Queue &quot;Elephants Walking&quot; music because this is a circus.  When is the return to 1980 tax rate of 70%?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When they came for the AIG bonuses (in a reaction to the mob), I said nothing&#8230;</p>
<p>And when they come for you and me, no one will stop them.</p>
<p>Queue &#8220;Elephants Walking&#8221; music because this is a circus.  When is the return to 1980 tax rate of 70%?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris in AL</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris in AL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zargon

I&#039;m feelin&#039; ya, but their right to tax earnings was granted by the people by going along with it for so long.

Now, the difference between past and future earnings is quite simple.  You should know and be able to calculate how much your tax obligation is going to be.  It is the only way to plan how you will spend whatever portion of your money the government is going to graciously allow you to keep.  Increasing a tax on past earnings does not allow for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zargon</p>
<p>I&#8217;m feelin&#8217; ya, but their right to tax earnings was granted by the people by going along with it for so long.</p>
<p>Now, the difference between past and future earnings is quite simple.  You should know and be able to calculate how much your tax obligation is going to be.  It is the only way to plan how you will spend whatever portion of your money the government is going to graciously allow you to keep.  Increasing a tax on past earnings does not allow for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris in AL</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris in AL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it would be easier to just add the 165M on the top of the 80B AIG owes.  Tell them that it may be in the future, but before you are free and clear of your obligations to the tax-payers, you are going to eat the 165M.  Not sure how legal that is, but I bet they could get it to fly more easily than this nutty tax idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it would be easier to just add the 165M on the top of the 80B AIG owes.  Tell them that it may be in the future, but before you are free and clear of your obligations to the tax-payers, you are going to eat the 165M.  Not sure how legal that is, but I bet they could get it to fly more easily than this nutty tax idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and by the way, Geithner almost surely knew about these bonuses for sometime.  He did run the NY Federal Reserve Bank which put together the initial AIG deal.  He was also insturmental in TARP, and other bailouts.  This idea that he didn&#039;t know is just what you expect form politicians a lie.

And think about this, the money for the bunuses is less than a 10th of 1% of the bailout money AIG has gotten.  This is a trivial issue.  The economy has much more serious issues and everyone is focusing on this.  Yes, by all means lets get so caught up over a piddly amount of money (when viewed in context) that we lose sight of the larger issues.

Maybe we should stone a few people to death, maybe that will get the economy turned around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and by the way, Geithner almost surely knew about these bonuses for sometime.  He did run the NY Federal Reserve Bank which put together the initial AIG deal.  He was also insturmental in TARP, and other bailouts.  This idea that he didn&#8217;t know is just what you expect form politicians a lie.</p>
<p>And think about this, the money for the bunuses is less than a 10th of 1% of the bailout money AIG has gotten.  This is a trivial issue.  The economy has much more serious issues and everyone is focusing on this.  Yes, by all means lets get so caught up over a piddly amount of money (when viewed in context) that we lose sight of the larger issues.</p>
<p>Maybe we should stone a few people to death, maybe that will get the economy turned around.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;OK, going off topic here, but the House just passed legislation to implement a 90% tax on the bonuses paid to AIG execs. While it still has to pass the Senate next week, it brings up an interesting question.

Does Congress have the authority to implement a new tax on money that has already been paid? 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

IANAL, but here is my understanding:

Technically, no.  This law would basically be a bill of attainder and an ex post facto law which are both prohibited by the U.S. Constitution.

However, the U.S. Constitution means less and less everyday so who the fuck knows.  What will be really cool is if this gets by the SCOTUS and then we have punitive taxes...special pain-in-the-ass taxes that the party in power can levy on its critics.  Cool, eh?

Hmmm, Cynical must be on vacation or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>OK, going off topic here, but the House just passed legislation to implement a 90% tax on the bonuses paid to AIG execs. While it still has to pass the Senate next week, it brings up an interesting question.</p>
<p>Does Congress have the authority to implement a new tax on money that has already been paid?
</p></blockquote>
<p>IANAL, but here is my understanding:</p>
<p>Technically, no.  This law would basically be a bill of attainder and an ex post facto law which are both prohibited by the U.S. Constitution.</p>
<p>However, the U.S. Constitution means less and less everyday so who the fuck knows.  What will be really cool is if this gets by the SCOTUS and then we have punitive taxes&#8230;special pain-in-the-ass taxes that the party in power can levy on its critics.  Cool, eh?</p>
<p>Hmmm, Cynical must be on vacation or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Zargon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zargon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Does Congress have the authority to implement a new tax on money that has already been paid?&quot;

Implicit in this question is the assumption that congress does have the authority to tax future earnings.  But what is the moral difference between congress declaring that they, and not you, are the rightful owners of X% of your previous labor, and congress declaring that they, and not you, are the rightful owners of X% of your future labor?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Does Congress have the authority to implement a new tax on money that has already been paid?&#8221;</p>
<p>Implicit in this question is the assumption that congress does have the authority to tax future earnings.  But what is the moral difference between congress declaring that they, and not you, are the rightful owners of X% of your previous labor, and congress declaring that they, and not you, are the rightful owners of X% of your future labor?</p>
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		<title>By: Mattocracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mattocracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stewart can chastise the news media all he wants, and I&#039;ll agree that the news media seems to be more about entertainment than actual news.  But when people call out Stewart for soft balling his guests, he can&#039;t just say, &quot;Oh, well I&#039;m a comedian and not really journalist so the same rules don&#039;t apply.&quot;  I mean he can, but that just makes him a hypocrite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stewart can chastise the news media all he wants, and I&#8217;ll agree that the news media seems to be more about entertainment than actual news.  But when people call out Stewart for soft balling his guests, he can&#8217;t just say, &#8220;Oh, well I&#8217;m a comedian and not really journalist so the same rules don&#8217;t apply.&#8221;  I mean he can, but that just makes him a hypocrite.</p>
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