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Cynical in CA |
February 27th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
My compliments to Rob Kampia too. I clicked away after 3 minutes.
I’m not sure what function Glenn Beck serves in life. It’s hard to justify him even as entertainment. Frankly, he’s kind of a modern mythical Greek creature — a cross between Bill O’Reilly and Admiral Stockdale. A creature to be pitied.
I’m sorry Beck admitted to smoking pot. In no way do I want to be associated with that ass-clown.
I dunno. Beck regurgitated a lot of easily refutable myths about marijuana. On the other hand, he did arrive at the conclusion that he was essentially okay with legalization, but that the discussion should be about the merits and flaws of the war on drugs, rather than legalizing for the purpose of taxing the stuff to get the state through the economic crisis.
Beck’s demeanor was childish and condescending. Rob Kampia blew him away by deflating the myths. I guess Beck’s ignorance of vaporization and foodstuffs showed how much he really knows about safer cannabis consumption alternatives! All in all, I score one for our side!
Recall what the usual media behavior is regarding any serious attempts to change the laws. Almost universally, there is an attitude on the part of most media types to deprecate the concept.
Look at the phrases used to describe those honest efforts: “Pushing,/i> for legalization”; “Pot enthusiasts efforts to change laws go up in smoke.” etc. it’s almost as if editors have some kind of secret playbook in which these cute widdle turns of phrase are picked out and slapped together like a Chinese menu. And that happens with far too much regularity to be excused as coincidence.
But now? Now that some California legislators and others of like mind around the Union are openly calling for re-legalization to to refill emptying tax revenue coffers, the tune is starting to change; the media is reducing its use of trite, patronizing phrases and taking the matter more seriously.
So, Beck’s stumbling, bumbling and mumbling just looks to me like a typical ‘nooz-reeder’ who hasn’t gotten the memo yet.
Beck embarrasses himself and/or discredits libERtarians (stop saying “libRAtarian you moron!”) Without a whiff of irony he’s seems to be begging for a “real discussion” on the issue and then carries on like an idiot-child.
“Marijuana rips out your lungs!” Be dumber, Glenn, be dumber.
man lots of hate to Glenn Beck. I don’t watch a lot but I thought during a lot of the bailout drama that he was one of the only talking heads going on extended rants basically along the lines of ‘all you guys are brass balled thieves’
I can live with that
Sure he obloviates but at least he seems like a somewhat reasonable person that actually believes some of the stuff he talks about. I don’t think anyone could claim OReilly or Coulter actually believe the junk that spews forth from their lips.
Brandon Bowers |
February 27th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
On what fucking planet is Glenn Beck a libertarian?
Brandon Bowers |
February 27th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
So, after watching the rest of the video, Beck has absolutely no logical or reasonable support for continuing prohibition, so he reverts to loud, oversimplified nonsense and making funny faces during Kampia’s points for 6 minutes. Has Fox News completely abandoned any shred of integrity or dignity?
Glenn Beck’s show should be marketed as “News and Opinion from the Perspective of a Complete and Utter Moron”.
He seems like the type of person who would fall for one of those Nigerian banking scams. In fact, I’m surprised he hasn’t done a show claiming that he’s found a sure-fire way to improve the economy… a method that involves sending $1 to each of the five people on a list, then adding your own name to the bottom of the list and passing it on…
How can that hypocritical idiot stand there and say he wants a serious conversation all the while he makes “oh wow man, I’m sooooo stoned” and “hash brownies!” jokes.
Helmut O' Hooligan |
February 27th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Danno 49: “If Glenn Beck is a libertarian then Sheriff Joe Arpaio is a progressive.”
Right on, Danno. As a guy that finds himself at the crossroads between Right-libertarianism and Left-Progressivism (no really!), I greatly appreciated that joke.
If Glenn Beck and others could actually have a serious discussion about the moral and economic case for legalization, without resorting to “munchies” jokes, eye rolling and sophmoric sarcasm, then maybe we would have a better approach to drugs in this country.
Beck, you are a fucking cartoon. And I join with my libertarian allies on Agitator in heaping abuse on you for calling yourself a “libertarian.” Christ, do you by any chance hang out with Eric Dondero?
…a cross between Bill O’Reilly and Admiral Stockdale. A creature to be pitied.
Uhhhmmm Admiral Stockdale? Really? The guy who was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, who was a POW, and author? Maybe you don’t agree with his politics…but comparing him to Bill O’Reilly? Really?
I was thinking maybe a cross between Bill O’Reilly and Rahm Emanuel…kind of like an ettin with an O’Reilly head and an Emanuel head that are perpetually arguing with each other.
Glenn Beck saying he’s a libertarian is like me saying I’m Selma Hayek.
You’re really Selma Hayek Boyd…got any pictures of you nekkid…oh wait, sorry all I saw was “Blah blah blah I’m Selma Hayek.”
Before the election, Glenn Beck brought Ron Paul on his show for the full hour, asked reasonable questions, and allow Ron to give full answers, without treating him like some nutcase just there for the amusement value.
That’s the only good thing I have to say about Glenn Beck.
Glenn Beck said he wouldn’t object to legalization so much as long as he didn’t have to “pay” for the health care of users. This is such a tired, ridiculous argument.
Does he (and the millions who repeat this same idiocy) say the same thing about people who drink or smoke cigarettes? How about murderers, rapists, and all manner of other (real) criminals? No, they don’t.
And is he saying that he objects to his tax dollars going toward the health care of welfare recipients who are drug users, or is he advocating that doctors and hospitals turn away users despite their ability to pay? Idiot.
Helmut O' Hooligan |
February 27th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Well done. But Beck’s reasoning is so circular and situational that he probably doesn’t know what he’s thinking from one minute to the next. He thinks he can just make stupid jokes and inane comments to hide the fact that he is ill informed and intellectually lazy. Alas, it’s not working.
damaged justice |
February 27th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Glenn Beck said he wouldn’t object to legalization so much as long as he didn’t have to “pay” for the health care of users.
He wouldn’t object “so much”? Well, that’s mighty white of him. But bring up his own pet hobby horses, and suddenly it’s time for me, and all of you, to pay his way.
Glen Beck is a pure, unadulterated, one hundred percent hypocrite, moron and thief.
Beck actually did end up agreeing with Rob Kampia’s central premise. There is not another Fox News anchor who ever entertain the notion of drug legalization. I think more than anything, Beck was trying to be funny. Compare that interview with O’Reilly’s treatment of Jacob Sullum.
I agree Beck is annoying but you shouldn’t judge the piece from the first 3 minutes. 1) He let the marijuana supporter actually talk, this is a lot more than most anchors on Fox News 2) He may have been playing devil’s advocate by giving common reasons why pot should be illegal then allowing the expert to debunk them. 3) His problem seemed to be that he didn’t want the plant to be taxed
I have yet to see a piece by a major TV network about anything to do with marijuana that can avoid the stupid jokey shit. Last time I saw a story on tragedies surrounding alcohol I didn’t catch any “pink elephant” jokes.
Remember the whole Michael Phelps thing? All the “no wonder he eats so many calories every day” jokes were painful.
For the record, *Louisiana* (#30), libertarians do say the same thing “about people who drink or smoke cigarettes […] murderers, rapists, and all manner of other (real) criminals” — they don’t want to pay for their health care, or *anybody’s.*
I’m not sure what function Glenn Beck serves in life.
He gets his paycheck for bringing to TV what talk radio has. In fact, I refer to it as “talk TV”. The same is true for Lou Dobbs, Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly, and Nancy Grace. They attract audience which translates into dollars. And they do it without actually having to go through the effort and expense of collecting, investigating, and reporting actual objective news. Even their news anchors are being selected for their ability to appeal at the visceral level rather than knowledge or intelligence. If that weren’t enough, now footage is now supplied largely by their audience, and the availability of footage determines what get’s reported.
Despite the fact that he makes the claim at least once every show, Glenn Beck is a libertarian like I’m the next Helmut Newton. And I think he is grossly exaggerating when he claims to have two brain cells. I don’t think he has a quarter of that.
Henry Bowman |
February 27th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
Well, at least part of the interview was good for a great laugh: when Rob Kampia states that “marijuana use has not been scientifically linked to an increase in the liklihood of death”. That was truly rich; after all, it’s hard to increase a liklihood to something greater than 100 per cent! Hey, bubba, we’re all going to die!
My point is that the same people (the government) who steal from us to provide for others are the same ones who then carve out “special” rules and exemptions that apply only to drug users as part of their plan to dehumanize a segment of the population. The Glenn Beck law-and-order Republicans, in their “avidity to punish” people for vices rather than crimes, are just tools.
Glenn Beck is a hypocrite, pure and simple. I have heard of many people like him who call themselves “libertarians” who talk about personal freedom and responsibility – except when it comes to the issue of drugs – mention drugs and all of a sudden expanding the scope and scale of government in the form of a billion dollar drug war is a perfectly “libertarian” thing to do. They are all for federalism when it comes to dozens of other issues, but the second you mention drugs – it’s like their brain switches off.
Yeah, Helmut O, I know what you mean by the crossroads of right-libertarianism and left-progressiveism….actually I see this stuff as kinda being on a big wheel – go too far to the left, you end up on the right, go too far to the right, you end up on the left. neo-conservatism is nothing more than neo-liberalism. Progressives and Libertarians in fact do have much in common…more so at least than progressives have in common with democrats and libertarians have in common with republicans.
Cynical In CA |
February 28th, 2009 at 3:30 am
“Uhhhmmm Admiral Stockdale? Really? …”
Really Steve. The reference in context was Glenn Beck’s campy, confused and utterly clueless performance in the video clip. The only thing I know directly about Admiral Stockdale was how ridiculous he performed in the VP debate years back.
Are you telling me you knew all that about Stockdale without looking it up on Wikipedia?
If so, get thee a life!!!
Cynical In CA |
February 28th, 2009 at 3:34 am
Thanks Dave, I now know what function Glenn Beck serves in life!
Ohhhh. That’s several minutes of my life I’m never getting back. Damn you, Glenn Beck!
“Even their news anchors are being selected for their ability to appeal at the visceral level rather than knowledge or intelligence.”
Out West here in Cali, there’s this little weathergirl goes by the name of Jackie Johnson. Lord have mercy, this chick has the greatest body. Weather was never this visceral. I stay up every night until 10:23 just to get my Jackie fix.
I couldn’t watch very much of that. I’ve only seen a couple of things by him before, but I have a mostly positive view on Beck. Of course, he made an ass out of himself there (at least in the small portion that I could make myself watch).
So GB has some bosses that infuse their will upon him, oh and he is also a Mormon so that adds a layer to his challenge, add to that he is one that quit all bad stuff, opinions about smoking from a smoker who quit? Yeah it’s a big bag to carry.
But can you imagine OhRilly or Hanniety as the interviewer?
I remember once someone on Hanniety’s radio program mentioning it once, he flew off in a tryant rage, called him a fucking doper and hung up the phone.
Fair and balanced indeed.
And it’s too bad that the subject of the current Mexican violence did not get into the flick, cuz such is one of GB’s pet projects.
Think baby steps, I view this as one.
Oh and GB seems to be the only public figure calling out the fucking politicos on their wast of even oxygen!
GAWD Radley I can’t believe by now you do not know how to gain allies.
Self proclaimed Libertarian–check
mexican violence big on his mind — check
former substance abuser — check
NATIONAL DAILY VOICE to an audience of MILLIONS — Check
Try a phone call or e-mail instead of throwing him under the fucking bus! Like Obama!
As far as the health care meme goes, who the fuck cares, sooner or later we all will be paying for each others health care, just like some of us are paying for it right now, so it’s a rather mute point. We are not today or will be tomorrow allowed a voice when the claim comes in to be paid either.
Are you telling me you knew all that about Stockdale without looking it up on Wikipedia?
Actually yes. I heard a reference to his accomplishments several years ago while an undergraduate that got me looking. You may not like his politics, but given he’s written on philosophy I don’t think he is a complete dope in contrast to the late Phil Harman’s portrayal of him.