This professor needs to be fired or shipped off to Cuba or China, where her ideas would fit right in. She is a sheep, an idiot, and has no idea what being an American actually means. My family fought long and hard to escape Cuba and make a new and successful life in America to escape idiots like her.

When I lived in the States (I am American), I had two guns, and I luckily never had to use them. I only gave them up to move to England, where only criminals carry guns and knife crime is an ever growing problem. I always tell my husband that as much as I love it here, I do miss the right to bear arms.

Wahlberg was harrassed and his First Amendment rights were raped. This university and the local police should have to pay dearly, with at the very least their reputation for basically pissing all over the Bill of Rights. The professor should be charged for filing a bogus police report.

Of course there is!

Every single person they killed didn’t have one.

Funny. No single person who’s been legally licenced to carry a weapon and has been armed has ever been killed in a mass shooting.

Yet anti-gunners want to make sure we are all unarmed….

Yeah. I’m going to stop carrying and join the group who’s most likely to be killed because it’s safer. Uh-huh. More Kool-Aid please.

This is the kind of shit that makes me think that as much as I sometimes would like to teach history, I couldn’t stand to be in academia.

The common denominator is each killer was experiencing some type of crisis. These killers aren’t your every day middle class worker that obtains a CHL to protect his family. These killers are people that were on someone’s radar screen for being creeped out, or just on the fringe of totally loosing it. People should be more concerned with all the mental time-bombs here in Lane County due to the cuts in mental health services. We should all hope there are more people with CHL’s around when the next time-bomb goes off here in Eugene.

ARM STUDENTS! Save campus!

Actually the first big time active shooter incident was the tower sniper at UT in Austin, TX. The guy was a vet, a very good shot, and spent hours shooting people without much that the police could do about it. They sent a plane up with a police sniper. After taking a few rounds they retreated. The Austin sniper was finally taken out by three men who happened on to each other as they made their way up the inside of the tower. Two were cops and one was a regular Joe. All came armed of course. As they made their way around the balcony of the tower one would provide cover as the other got in position to shoot. The sniper was killed by one of the police officers while the citizen covered him.

Laertes does have a point however. A constant problem for the three was ground fire from others trying to kill the sniper while they worked their operation. BTW, this incident combined with campus unrest over the Vietnam War gave rise to SWAT teams and the Austin incident is considered the beginning of SWAT.
E. Zach Lee-Wright

Why not have Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid write a law repealing gravity. The Obamessiah can sign it into law, and then no one will have to deal with gravity every again.

Oh, wait…

Right, because it’s impossible for anyone to go home and come back the next day with a gun. And it’s a trivial thing to decide to end the life of a teacher, but it takes a monstrous person indeed to drum up the extreme courage needed to ignore the “no guns” sign at the campus gate.

What student got arrested for an anti-Bush t-shirt? Link please.

And, suspending a student for promoting drug use and disrupting school activities seems within the scope of school administrators. Especially when the student displays the sign at a school-sponsored event where TV coverage for the Winter Olympics was present. If he got suspended for wearing a t-shirt with the slogan on it to school, I would feel differently. The kid was a dumbass, not a 1st Amendment martyr.

While I agree that anti-liberty bias is a problem, the only people that have tried to tell me what to say or what to do have been leftists.

Just the other day, I read an article about a man who was pulled over by the police because he had a sign on his car that said “abort obama”. The officer confiscated the sign, but the police chief made him return it as a clear violation of the man’s 1st amendment rights.

The driver, of course, got a visit from the Secret Service.

Funny, all this concern for the president’s life seems to have skipped the Bush 43 years. There was even a movie about an attempt on his life.

I wonder what will happen if someone throws a shoe at Obama? Will all the people who laughed when it happened to Bush laugh again? Or will they scream for the perpetrator’s head?

Is that sort of like how students were arrested for wearing anti-bush shirts?

Or maybe how that other student that was suspended for his “bong hits for jesus” sign in the “liberally biased” state of Alaska?

It’s not a matter of “liberal bias” or “right-wing bias”…it’s a matter of anti-liberty bias…to which both the left and right are complicit. Besides, last time I checked, I didn’t see much daylight between the democratic and republican political class.

There have been cases of police shooting undercover cops who were in the right place at the right time to stop crimes in progress and were holding the criminals at gunpoint; a similar danger would exist for concealed-carry licensees, though trigger-happy police, rather than the licensees, would be to blame.

//I’m very much ready to change my thinking if you’re able to point out some serious flaws in Mr. Hicks’ analysis.

Some people seem to think that, with multiple armed people around, it would be difficult to tell which armed person is the ‘bad guy’. If one guy seems to be targeting many people and another seems to only be targeting the first guy, odds are pretty good the guy who’s targeting everyone is the bad guy.

Even in the worst-case scenario, where an armed person discovers two people who are targeting each other and no one else, and can’t determine who’s the bad guy, the third person could observe from cover while waiting for a sign as to who the bad guy is. If it hasn’t become apparent before one of the shooters is incapacitated, it will quickly become apparent after.

That is a major problem. In an active shooter situation, ALL police officers (campus, city, county, state…) should be trained, equipped and ready to make entry immediately, size up the situation and end the threat (ie. kill or incapacitate the shooter) ASAP. After Columbine, my local P.D. began training patrol officers to do just that. It takes to long to assemble SWAT, and patrol officers know this (and joke about it).

Yes, this is a situation that could justify a SWAT call out, but only if it lasts that long (that is, if the shooter takes hostages or barricades himself/herself in a room). And armed citizens could end the event even sooner. If people WANT to take the responsibility to carry (and that is a big IF) then I don’t think we should stop them at this point without some compelling reason (history of forcible felonies, severe mental illness, etc.). We should be having this conversation, and fuck this lightweight professor for trying to criminalize the discussion.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-501206/I-prayed-I-shot-The-glamorous-church-security-guard-shot-crazed-gunman.html

http://www.ktka.com/news/2007/jan/22/concealed_carry_permit_holder_shoots_suspect/

http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?Entry=5861

If you have any links to actual studies that back up any of the “guarantees” he makes in that post, I’d like to see them, but until then, I am going to go with the empirical evidence.

“On October 3, 2008, Wahlberg and two other classmates prepared to give an oral presentation for a Communication 140 class that was required to discuss a “relevant issue in the media”. Wahlberg and his group chose to discuss school violence due to recent events such as the Virginia Tech shootings that occurred in 2007″.

Sounds like the topic was relevant, and it was afterall a “Communications” course.

#25 Laertes

I fear that in reality, I’d be mistaken for the shooter myself, by other would-be vigilantes or the SWAT team.

Nah! SWAT doesn’t shoot you unless you’re at home minding your own business.

Armed nut goes on shooting rampage in a gun free zone (school), students retrieve their guns from their cars and stop the massacre.