Comments on: Hayne/West Video Picked Up by Mississippi Media

By: Donna Ladd

Donna Ladd — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 02:58:29 +0000

Radley, I noticed earlier that the Ledger picked up your story without attributing it. They do they all the time to us, too. I’ll make some hay about it here locally.

GREAT job, by the way. I consider you an honorary Mississippi journalist at this point. We need you!

By: Ganja Blue

Ganja Blue — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:47:06 +0000

WindyPundit, you may be correct but when the bird cage liner says “a video obtained by…” and they don’t state that the video comes from another news source that goes beyond the concept of “idea” and the Clarion Ledger is actually reporting on someone else’s investigation. Bloggers usually hold each other accountable to a higher standard that has been previously seen in traditional media. I do see a slight change in the traditional news sources. Previous an newspaper would either ignore a scoop by the competition or even go so far as to marginalize the significance of the news.

By: Frank

Frank — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:22:42 +0000

#8 And of course this is why newspapers are filing for bankruptcy. They just aren’t anywhere near credible these days.

By: Windypundit

Windypundit — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:22:22 +0000

While it's standard practice for journalists cite their sources of information, it's not common for them to cite the source of the idea for the story. If you think of your classic newspaper environment, that makes a lot of sense. Aside from the fact that they got the story idea from a competitor, there's also the fact that with printed newspapers, by the time the readers see the story, any other stories they cite will be stale and already lining the birdcage. The American cited Reason and Radley because they are repeating a lot of information they got right from his article. The Clarion-Ledger, on the other hand, did their own reporting for the story, so they cite the primary sources. Radley didn't used to cite the sources of story ideas either, back in the early days of The Agitator, but he's been following the blogger rules lately.

By: Dave Krueger

Dave Krueger — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:57:56 +0000

I think Michael Cheney makes an excellent point. I’ve seen a lot of antagonism by the mainstream media toward bloggers. They paint them all with the same brush, legit or not.

But, as everyone really knows, it’s really all about the threat bloggers pose to the mainstream press. Their customers are migrating to other news sources in droves and rather than adapt to the new environment, they think they can use their position to hold off the winds of change. They’re wrong, of course.

By: Kristen

Kristen — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:57:47 +0000

BTW, in bold, at the end of the article: “To comment on this story, call Jerry Mitchell at (601) 961-7064.”

By: asg

asg — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:48:52 +0000

I love how the Mitchell article says the video was “obtained by the Clarion-Ledger”. Yeah, obtained from this website!

By: Dave Krueger

Dave Krueger — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:47:37 +0000

This is a bit off topic, but my daughter did post-conviction death penalty work in Louisiana for a while after graduating from Tulane. I think her work there is responsible for her decision to pursue a career in indigent defense. She had nothing good to say about the way they prosecute people there. That was back when Harry Connick Sr. was still there.

In one of the cases she worked on, the client, Curtis Kyles, was finally released when the state failed to get a sustainable conviction after five friggin’ trials. He was in prison for 14 years and came within 30 hours of execution before being released. The case was so pathetically weak and tainted with prosecutorial misconduct that one has to wonder if there’s any media oversight of the justice system in Louisiana at all.

Crusader that she is, I’m sure she would love to be there for this case.

By: bear

bear — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:45:01 +0000

I just could not NOT comment at that cess pool of thieves at the clarionledger.

How shameful. M. Chaney, even taking your tongue in cheek musings about Radley’s cred at face value, who does that? Who fucking does that? I’m just beside myself right now. Is this a crime? At least maybe a Tort? Or is investigative journalism fair game for plagiarism.

-bear

By: ceanf

ceanf — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:44:52 +0000

i have been hearing this guy west’s name for a while now and have never seen a picture. now that i have, it is fitting that he is a fat, slobbish dirt bag who most likely has severe sweating issues.

By: JP

JP — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:40:59 +0000

“Hayne said he is now doing autopsies in Louisiana, plus private cases he handles.”

What a surprise.

By: Lorraine Sumrall

Lorraine Sumrall — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:04:56 +0000

It’s about time the story was picked up here in Mississippi. Of course Jerry Mitchell should have mentioned where in the heck he got this information on Hayne and West. Yes, Baden has held up for Hayne in the past and testified in Jones County just last year agreeing with him in a murder case.

By: Michael Chaney

Michael Chaney — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:01:33 +0000

In that last paragraph, not just “report”, but “investigate”. It’s that part that’s really missing nowadays.

By: Kristen

Kristen — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:59:24 +0000

I know you were being facetious, Michael, but Radley IS an actual print journalist. No excuse for not crediting him, either way.

By: Michael Chaney

Michael Chaney — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:58:04 +0000

Radley, I don’t know if you understand the hierarchy here so let me help you. You’re just a blogger, not a real journalist. There’s no reason they would credit a blogger with anything.

Now, if you were a real journalist and worked for a newspaper or something, with editorial oversight and all that, then you could expect credit.

Seriously, the arrogance of journalists is astounding, especially in cases like this where they have utterly shirked their responsibility to report the facts rather than regurgitate what the government tells them and pass on a few notes they made at trial.

By: Marty

Marty — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:56:23 +0000

‘Hayne said the abrasion “was there before. It just became more evident. We see that all the time.”‘

I bet they do.

By: Marc

Marc — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:54:21 +0000

Nobody likes an agitator.

By: Nick T

Nick T — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:47:25 +0000

Wait a second. Is Hayne saying the things recorded in that video didn’t happen!? Unbelievable.

I guess videotapes are nowhere near as good as bite mark evidence.

By: colson

colson — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:45:41 +0000

Correction: hasn’t Baden supported Haynes in the past?

By: colson

colson — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:45:10 +0000

Where’s the cred to the person pushing the case? And the other thing – hasn’t Dr. Baden supported West in the past or am I mistaken?