‘Hayne said the abrasion “was there before. It just became more evident. We see that all the time.”‘
I bet they do.
Michael Chaney |
February 27th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Radley, I don’t know if you understand the hierarchy here so let me help you. You’re just a blogger, not a real journalist. There’s no reason they would credit a blogger with anything.
Now, if you were a real journalist and worked for a newspaper or something, with editorial oversight and all that, then you could expect credit.
Seriously, the arrogance of journalists is astounding, especially in cases like this where they have utterly shirked their responsibility to report the facts rather than regurgitate what the government tells them and pass on a few notes they made at trial.
I know you were being facetious, Michael, but Radley IS an actual print journalist. No excuse for not crediting him, either way.
Michael Chaney |
February 27th, 2009 at 11:01 am
In that last paragraph, not just “report”, but “investigate”. It’s that part that’s really missing nowadays.
Lorraine Sumrall |
February 27th, 2009 at 11:04 am
It’s about time the story was picked up here in Mississippi. Of course Jerry Mitchell should have mentioned where in the heck he got this information on Hayne and West. Yes, Baden has held up for Hayne in the past and testified in Jones County just last year agreeing with him in a murder case.
I just could not NOT comment at that cess pool of thieves at the clarionledger.
How shameful. M. Chaney, even taking your tongue in cheek musings about Radley’s cred at face value, who does that? Who fucking does that? I’m just beside myself right now. Is this a crime? At least maybe a Tort? Or is investigative journalism fair game for plagiarism.
This is a bit off topic, but my daughter did post-conviction death penalty work in Louisiana for a while after graduating from Tulane. I think her work there is responsible for her decision to pursue a career in indigent defense. She had nothing good to say about the way they prosecute people there. That was back when Harry Connick Sr. was still there.
In one of the cases she worked on, the client, Curtis Kyles, was finally released when the state failed to get a sustainable conviction after five friggin’ trials. He was in prison for 14 years and came within 30 hours of execution before being released. The case was so pathetically weak and tainted with prosecutorial misconduct that one has to wonder if there’s any media oversight of the justice system in Louisiana at all.
Crusader that she is, I’m sure she would love to be there for this case.
I think Michael Cheney makes an excellent point. I’ve seen a lot of antagonism by the mainstream media toward bloggers. They paint them all with the same brush, legit or not.
But, as everyone really knows, it’s really all about the threat bloggers pose to the mainstream press. Their customers are migrating to other news sources in droves and rather than adapt to the new environment, they think they can use their position to hold off the winds of change. They’re wrong, of course.
While it’s standard practice for journalists cite their sources of information, it’s not common for them to cite the source of the idea for the story. If you think of your classic newspaper environment, that makes a lot of sense. Aside from the fact that they got the story idea from a competitor, there’s also the fact that with printed newspapers, by the time the readers see the story, any other stories they cite will be stale and already lining the birdcage.
The American cited Reason and Radley because they are repeating a lot of information they got right from his article. The Clarion-Ledger, on the other hand, did their own reporting for the story, so they cite the primary sources.
Radley didn’t used to cite the sources of story ideas either, back in the early days of The Agitator, but he’s been following the blogger rules lately.
WindyPundit, you may be correct but when the bird cage liner says “a video obtained by…” and they don’t state that the video comes from another news source that goes beyond the concept of “idea” and the Clarion Ledger is actually reporting on someone else’s investigation. Bloggers usually hold each other accountable to a higher standard that has been previously seen in traditional media. I do see a slight change in the traditional news sources. Previous an newspaper would either ignore a scoop by the competition or even go so far as to marginalize the significance of the news.