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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Jon H</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/02/13/no-it-isnt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-241963</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 02:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Radley,

This is what staffers are for. Split the bill up among all the GOP Senators, Representatives, and their staffs, and you could make quick work of it.

You&#039;d think the GOP would jump at the opportunity to do this, to find politically useful material. Why didn&#039;t they?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radley,</p>
<p>This is what staffers are for. Split the bill up among all the GOP Senators, Representatives, and their staffs, and you could make quick work of it.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d think the GOP would jump at the opportunity to do this, to find politically useful material. Why didn&#8217;t they?</p>
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		<title>By: Radley Balko</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/02/13/no-it-isnt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-241638</link>
		<dc:creator>Radley Balko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mgordon --

Go back and watch your Schoolhouse Rock.

I was during the conference committee sessions to reconcile the House and Senate versions of the bill that Pelosi and the Dems locked out the Republicans.  That&#039;s also when the final version of the bill was marked up, including all sorts of add-ons that weren&#039;t in either the House or Senate versions of the original bill.

It&#039;s that bill that was then passed on to both houses for a quick vote, where members were given only 11 hours to sift through 1,400 pages to see what had been added, subtracted, or amended.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mgordon &#8211;</p>
<p>Go back and watch your Schoolhouse Rock.</p>
<p>I was during the conference committee sessions to reconcile the House and Senate versions of the bill that Pelosi and the Dems locked out the Republicans.  That&#8217;s also when the final version of the bill was marked up, including all sorts of add-ons that weren&#8217;t in either the House or Senate versions of the original bill.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s that bill that was then passed on to both houses for a quick vote, where members were given only 11 hours to sift through 1,400 pages to see what had been added, subtracted, or amended.</p>
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		<title>By: mgordon</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/02/13/no-it-isnt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-241634</link>
		<dc:creator>mgordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 21:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Right, and a politicians would never write a misleading summary for their own benefit, right? Omit damning details? No, never, never.&quot;

Right, and in your simple minded world the Dems sit in a dimly lit room drafting legislation that will bring and end to civilization as we know it.  Sorry, they made no secret that they wanted to include the repubs in the process.  Fuck, Obama was practically begging them for their input.  If they didn&#039;t participate in the process then it&#039;s their own fucking fault that they don&#039;t know what changes have been made.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Right, and a politicians would never write a misleading summary for their own benefit, right? Omit damning details? No, never, never.&#8221;</p>
<p>Right, and in your simple minded world the Dems sit in a dimly lit room drafting legislation that will bring and end to civilization as we know it.  Sorry, they made no secret that they wanted to include the repubs in the process.  Fuck, Obama was practically begging them for their input.  If they didn&#8217;t participate in the process then it&#8217;s their own fucking fault that they don&#8217;t know what changes have been made.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/02/13/no-it-isnt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-241616</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Because the public doesn&#039;t want them.   They want charisma, affirmations that their beliefs are right and good, condemnations of things they dislike, and promises to fix everything they deem wrong with the world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because the public doesn&#8217;t want them.   They want charisma, affirmations that their beliefs are right and good, condemnations of things they dislike, and promises to fix everything they deem wrong with the world.</p>
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		<title>By: supercat</title>
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		<dc:creator>supercat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Harry Browne, in his campaign for President, promised that he would would not sign any piece of legislation without actually reading the whole thing.  Any piece of legislation too large to be read within the Constitutionally-mandated time frame would be automatically vetoed.

Seems like any good President should adopt such a policy.  Why is it so impossible to get people elected who will actually do their (bleep)ing job!?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry Browne, in his campaign for President, promised that he would would not sign any piece of legislation without actually reading the whole thing.  Any piece of legislation too large to be read within the Constitutionally-mandated time frame would be automatically vetoed.</p>
<p>Seems like any good President should adopt such a policy.  Why is it so impossible to get people elected who will actually do their (bleep)ing job!?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 17:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anybody who thinks that Obama is going to keep the promises that he made during his campaign is a moron.  He just said what was necessary to get elected.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody who thinks that Obama is going to keep the promises that he made during his campaign is a moron.  He just said what was necessary to get elected.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 17:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know much about this guy, and I vote on the other side of the country, but I definitely liked this (wishful thinking, but hey..) part of his campaign:

http://www.lawsonforcongress.com/issues/good-government/

Time for Change

When people ask why I&#039;m running for Congress, I start with a summary of my four primary concerns about our federal government, and Congress in particular:

   1. Most people assume that our elected Representatives and their staff actually read the bills before they vote on them. They don&#039;t.
   2. Many people assume that our lawmakers limit legislation to a single topic at a time. They don&#039;t do that, either.
   3. Most people assume that our elected Representatives actually write legislation. Increasingly, they don&#039;t.
   4. Finally, many people assume that Congress follows rules concerning what our federal government should, and shouldn&#039;t, do. Not any more.

Our process of government is broken. The current process obscures accountability, serves only special interests, and is a disservice to the American people. I believe it&#039;s time for a new generation of principled leadership, and I want to pass the following four bills to correct the legislative process and return control to the people:

   1. The Read the Bills Act: Congress should read legislation before it votes on it.
   2. The One Subject at a Time Act: Congress should limit legislation to one subject per bill.
   3. The Write the Laws Act: Congress should write laws and be accountable for their results, and not delegate rulemaking authority to unelected bureaucrats and corporate lobbyists.
   4. The Enumerated Powers Act: All legislation must specify the Constitutional authority upon which it is based.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know much about this guy, and I vote on the other side of the country, but I definitely liked this (wishful thinking, but hey..) part of his campaign:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lawsonforcongress.com/issues/good-government/" rel="nofollow">http://www.lawsonforcongress.com/issues/good-government/</a></p>
<p>Time for Change</p>
<p>When people ask why I&#8217;m running for Congress, I start with a summary of my four primary concerns about our federal government, and Congress in particular:</p>
<p>   1. Most people assume that our elected Representatives and their staff actually read the bills before they vote on them. They don&#8217;t.<br />
   2. Many people assume that our lawmakers limit legislation to a single topic at a time. They don&#8217;t do that, either.<br />
   3. Most people assume that our elected Representatives actually write legislation. Increasingly, they don&#8217;t.<br />
   4. Finally, many people assume that Congress follows rules concerning what our federal government should, and shouldn&#8217;t, do. Not any more.</p>
<p>Our process of government is broken. The current process obscures accountability, serves only special interests, and is a disservice to the American people. I believe it&#8217;s time for a new generation of principled leadership, and I want to pass the following four bills to correct the legislative process and return control to the people:</p>
<p>   1. The Read the Bills Act: Congress should read legislation before it votes on it.<br />
   2. The One Subject at a Time Act: Congress should limit legislation to one subject per bill.<br />
   3. The Write the Laws Act: Congress should write laws and be accountable for their results, and not delegate rulemaking authority to unelected bureaucrats and corporate lobbyists.<br />
   4. The Enumerated Powers Act: All legislation must specify the Constitutional authority upon which it is based.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisD</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/02/13/no-it-isnt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-241569</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If pols made a good faith effort to make things clear and consistent, you wouldn&#039;t have to re-read all 1,000 pages - true. But these are politicians. A single slipped word here or there makes a difference. 

&quot;Don’t you think they get a summary of the changes?&quot;

Right, and a politicians would never write a misleading summary for their own benefit, right? Omit damning details? No, never, never.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If pols made a good faith effort to make things clear and consistent, you wouldn&#8217;t have to re-read all 1,000 pages &#8211; true. But these are politicians. A single slipped word here or there makes a difference. </p>
<p>&#8220;Don’t you think they get a summary of the changes?&#8221;</p>
<p>Right, and a politicians would never write a misleading summary for their own benefit, right? Omit damning details? No, never, never.</p>
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		<title>By: andyinsdca</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/02/13/no-it-isnt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-241556</link>
		<dc:creator>andyinsdca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 15:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now, seriously, Radley, are you surprised at how Obama and his Dem cronies are acting?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, seriously, Radley, are you surprised at how Obama and his Dem cronies are acting?</p>
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		<title>By: mgordon</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/02/13/no-it-isnt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-241478</link>
		<dc:creator>mgordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 06:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really? do you think the changes were that drastic that one would have to read 1000 pages of legislation to consider the consequences?

What do you think was proposed? Don&#039;t you think they get a summery of the changes?

Theatrics plain and simple.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvnwOjDjnH4

If they haven&#039;t read one page of that by now they should be voted out of office.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? do you think the changes were that drastic that one would have to read 1000 pages of legislation to consider the consequences?</p>
<p>What do you think was proposed? Don&#8217;t you think they get a summery of the changes?</p>
<p>Theatrics plain and simple.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvnwOjDjnH4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvnwOjDjnH4</a></p>
<p>If they haven&#8217;t read one page of that by now they should be voted out of office.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisD</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/02/13/no-it-isnt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-241474</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 06:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Finding the legislation is one thing. Reading it is another. Thinking carefully about the worth/likely outcomes of provisions is yet another thing. The idea that someone can make the the pretense of a good decision under this time crunch is ridiculous. 

Esepecially b/c legislators put in the worst pork at the last possible minute precisely to avoid multiple days of press scrutiny.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finding the legislation is one thing. Reading it is another. Thinking carefully about the worth/likely outcomes of provisions is yet another thing. The idea that someone can make the the pretense of a good decision under this time crunch is ridiculous. </p>
<p>Esepecially b/c legislators put in the worst pork at the last possible minute precisely to avoid multiple days of press scrutiny.</p>
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		<title>By: mgordon</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/02/13/no-it-isnt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-241469</link>
		<dc:creator>mgordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 05:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jesus Christ, it&#039;s like you guys think (and Flake wants you to think) that this shit was drafted in 5 minutes.  It has been there if one would bother to look.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.1:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus Christ, it&#8217;s like you guys think (and Flake wants you to think) that this shit was drafted in 5 minutes.  It has been there if one would bother to look.</p>
<p><a href="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.1" rel="nofollow">http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.1</a>:</p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/02/13/no-it-isnt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-241459</link>
		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 04:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The worst thing is not even the bill. It&#039;s the idea that Americans can live infinitely and live well off a credit and consumer based economy where people no longer make things, produce things, create things.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The worst thing is not even the bill. It&#8217;s the idea that Americans can live infinitely and live well off a credit and consumer based economy where people no longer make things, produce things, create things.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonson</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/02/13/no-it-isnt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-241443</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 03:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Grats, and it was available for all of 10 hours before the vote.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grats, and it was available for all of 10 hours before the vote.</p>
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		<title>By: mgordon</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/02/13/no-it-isnt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-241439</link>
		<dc:creator>mgordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 03:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fuck me, it took 30 seconds to find.  

http://appropriations.house.gov/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuck me, it took 30 seconds to find.  </p>
<p><a href="http://appropriations.house.gov/" rel="nofollow">http://appropriations.house.gov/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Li</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/02/13/no-it-isnt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-241411</link>
		<dc:creator>Li</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 01:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that we need to start considering that the President is not really the man in charge of our country, and may not have been for some time. How could such behavior travel so consistently from administration to administration, despite the different personalities that flow in and out of there? The Patriot [sic] act is a perfect correlate.

I have no idea who is holding the marionette wires of our nation, mind you, but I&#039;ll bet you dollars to donuts that they are connected with Goldman Sax. No better king than a secret one, for that is one that can never, ever be overthrown.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that we need to start considering that the President is not really the man in charge of our country, and may not have been for some time. How could such behavior travel so consistently from administration to administration, despite the different personalities that flow in and out of there? The Patriot [sic] act is a perfect correlate.</p>
<p>I have no idea who is holding the marionette wires of our nation, mind you, but I&#8217;ll bet you dollars to donuts that they are connected with Goldman Sax. No better king than a secret one, for that is one that can never, ever be overthrown.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Farris</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/02/13/no-it-isnt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-241390</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Farris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think a lot of people where thinking that Obama would be able to exert some restrain on the Reid/Pelosi/Murtha/Frank cowboyism that was going to happen when the government went from being controlled by one party to being controlled by the other party. 

Either Obama is still settling in (his cabinet appointments haven&#039;t gone off too good), or he is a lot weaker of a leader than most expected, or Rahm isn&#039;t doing his job. 

On the other hand, perhaps Obama is letting the Congressional Dems get this all out of their system (They&#039;ve been out of power since 1995) before he makes them buckle down and behave in a reasonable manner.

Or its the meet the new boss same as the old boss thing again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a lot of people where thinking that Obama would be able to exert some restrain on the Reid/Pelosi/Murtha/Frank cowboyism that was going to happen when the government went from being controlled by one party to being controlled by the other party. </p>
<p>Either Obama is still settling in (his cabinet appointments haven&#8217;t gone off too good), or he is a lot weaker of a leader than most expected, or Rahm isn&#8217;t doing his job. </p>
<p>On the other hand, perhaps Obama is letting the Congressional Dems get this all out of their system (They&#8217;ve been out of power since 1995) before he makes them buckle down and behave in a reasonable manner.</p>
<p>Or its the meet the new boss same as the old boss thing again.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynical In CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynical In CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Look at it this way, Radley.  The Obama Administration is going to provide you with a blog post topic EVERY DAY!

Someone once said that political comedy was the easiest job in the world because all you had to do was report the facts.  Politics is strange than fiction.  UCMTSU.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at it this way, Radley.  The Obama Administration is going to provide you with a blog post topic EVERY DAY!</p>
<p>Someone once said that political comedy was the easiest job in the world because all you had to do was report the facts.  Politics is strange than fiction.  UCMTSU.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that solar makes some good points.  It&#039;s true that a five day waiting period wouldn&#039;t cure the atrocity that is this bill.  However, for me, the election period was about being discouraged by how many people (especially here in the Ann Arbor area) bought uncritically and more or less religiously into the collection of promises that Obama made, and about the whole concept of &quot;change we can believe in&quot;.  Pie in the sky promises followed by reality are the farthest thing from change, as are massive and unfocused bills that no one really knows the contents of.  Business as usual.  My contempt is directed toward a blatantly false overall message that Obama sold, and this is one small part of it.  

As they say, meet the new boss, same as the old boss.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that solar makes some good points.  It&#8217;s true that a five day waiting period wouldn&#8217;t cure the atrocity that is this bill.  However, for me, the election period was about being discouraged by how many people (especially here in the Ann Arbor area) bought uncritically and more or less religiously into the collection of promises that Obama made, and about the whole concept of &#8220;change we can believe in&#8221;.  Pie in the sky promises followed by reality are the farthest thing from change, as are massive and unfocused bills that no one really knows the contents of.  Business as usual.  My contempt is directed toward a blatantly false overall message that Obama sold, and this is one small part of it.  </p>
<p>As they say, meet the new boss, same as the old boss.</p>
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		<title>By: solarjetman</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/02/13/no-it-isnt-2/comment-page-1/#comment-241364</link>
		<dc:creator>solarjetman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 23:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ultimately such a promise was a naive one, and doomed to be broken.  The president does not and cannot control the legislative process, and cannot prevent Congressmen from continuing to rewrite and negotiate a bill right up until the moment it heads to the printer to be voted on.

I&#039;m not trying to defend Obama here; just direct the contempt towards the promise itself, rather than the failure to deliver.  If Obama promises that tomorrow will be a sunny day, we shouldn&#039;t applaud him today and then get angry when it rains tomorrow.

Torches and pitchforks (metaphorically speaking) might change the fundamental way Congress works, but electing a new president won&#039;t.

All that said, the fundamental debate behind the stimulus package - between the Keynesian contention that any spending is stimulus and thus all that matters is that the bill be as big as possible, and its detractors - had more than 5 days to percolate through the blogosphere, and as far as I can tell liberals are still liberals and conservatives are still conservatives.  I think it&#039;s overly optimistic to think that a 5 day waiting period would have much effect on Congresscritters.  Corruption in Congress is like that old saying about information on the internet; it interprets reform as damage and routes around it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ultimately such a promise was a naive one, and doomed to be broken.  The president does not and cannot control the legislative process, and cannot prevent Congressmen from continuing to rewrite and negotiate a bill right up until the moment it heads to the printer to be voted on.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not trying to defend Obama here; just direct the contempt towards the promise itself, rather than the failure to deliver.  If Obama promises that tomorrow will be a sunny day, we shouldn&#8217;t applaud him today and then get angry when it rains tomorrow.</p>
<p>Torches and pitchforks (metaphorically speaking) might change the fundamental way Congress works, but electing a new president won&#8217;t.</p>
<p>All that said, the fundamental debate behind the stimulus package &#8211; between the Keynesian contention that any spending is stimulus and thus all that matters is that the bill be as big as possible, and its detractors &#8211; had more than 5 days to percolate through the blogosphere, and as far as I can tell liberals are still liberals and conservatives are still conservatives.  I think it&#8217;s overly optimistic to think that a 5 day waiting period would have much effect on Congresscritters.  Corruption in Congress is like that old saying about information on the internet; it interprets reform as damage and routes around it.</p>
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