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	<title>Comments on: God Help Us If We Start &#8220;Winning&#8221; the Drug War, Too</title>
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		<title>By: The Agitator &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Evening Links</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Agitator &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Evening Links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Mexican drug lord hit men dress up like a SWAT team to carry out an execution in Phoenix. The rest of the story is just damned scary. But remember, the violence means we&#8217;re winning! [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mexican drug lord hit men dress up like a SWAT team to carry out an execution in Phoenix. The rest of the story is just damned scary. But remember, the violence means we&#8217;re winning! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: U.S. arrests 755 in Mexican drug cartel raids &#124; NORML's Daily Audio Stash</title>
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		<dc:creator>U.S. arrests 755 in Mexican drug cartel raids &#124; NORML's Daily Audio Stash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Cynical In CA</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/02/13/god-help-us-if-we-start-winning-the-drug-war-too/comment-page-1/#comment-241557</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynical In CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 15:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;War seems to always be the only option anymore.&quot;

Empires need war like oxygen.  

&quot;War is the health of the State.&quot; -- Randolph Bourne.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;War seems to always be the only option anymore.&#8221;</p>
<p>Empires need war like oxygen.  </p>
<p>&#8220;War is the health of the State.&#8221; &#8212; Randolph Bourne.</p>
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		<title>By: ARCraig</title>
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		<dc:creator>ARCraig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 05:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do hope to win the drug war some day. I&#039;m confident we&#039;ll defeat the government eventually.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do hope to win the drug war some day. I&#8217;m confident we&#8217;ll defeat the government eventually.</p>
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		<title>By: livingpre911still</title>
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		<dc:creator>livingpre911still</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 04:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In an article full of honest reflection and insight it is telling that the only DOPEy remarks were from U.S. officials.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In an article full of honest reflection and insight it is telling that the only DOPEy remarks were from U.S. officials.</p>
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		<title>By: FRIDAY NIGHT LINKS: Bilderberg Will Crush You, Crickets Eating Lettuce and Somebody Please Face-Kick Janeane Garafolo at ICED BORSCHT &#38; Other Delights</title>
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		<dc:creator>FRIDAY NIGHT LINKS: Bilderberg Will Crush You, Crickets Eating Lettuce and Somebody Please Face-Kick Janeane Garafolo at ICED BORSCHT &#38; Other Delights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 02:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] God Help Us if We Start Winning the Drug War [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Helmut O' Hooligan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helmut O' Hooligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 01:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Awfully big of Walters to so boldly sacrifice Mexican lives in order make it marginally more difficult for Americans to get high&quot;

Disgusting, but far from unprecedented.  Small wonder why many in the third world believe that the U.S. considers the lives of non-Americans (especially non-white Americans) to be rather insignificant.  Got to destroy the village to save it, right Mr. Walters.

&quot;If the drug effort were failing there would be no violence”

Incorrect, Mr. &quot;Drug Czar.&quot;  If there were no &quot;drug effort,&quot; as you put it, there would be a lot less violence.  See you almost made sense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Awfully big of Walters to so boldly sacrifice Mexican lives in order make it marginally more difficult for Americans to get high&#8221;</p>
<p>Disgusting, but far from unprecedented.  Small wonder why many in the third world believe that the U.S. considers the lives of non-Americans (especially non-white Americans) to be rather insignificant.  Got to destroy the village to save it, right Mr. Walters.</p>
<p>&#8220;If the drug effort were failing there would be no violence”</p>
<p>Incorrect, Mr. &#8220;Drug Czar.&#8221;  If there were no &#8220;drug effort,&#8221; as you put it, there would be a lot less violence.  See you almost made sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynical In CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynical In CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;We can- but we have to do it en masse.&quot;

Now that&#039;s some subversive shit I can get behind!

If no one voted and no one paid their taxes, there would be anarchy.  That would be satisfying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We can- but we have to do it en masse.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now that&#8217;s some subversive shit I can get behind!</p>
<p>If no one voted and no one paid their taxes, there would be anarchy.  That would be satisfying.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynical In CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynical In CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is no end to the lies the State will tell to preserve itself.

Politics is war, and all is fair in war, especially lying.

It is foolish to believe a word that comes from the lips of a politician.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no end to the lies the State will tell to preserve itself.</p>
<p>Politics is war, and all is fair in war, especially lying.</p>
<p>It is foolish to believe a word that comes from the lips of a politician.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorraine Sumrall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorraine Sumrall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Violence is the sure sign to the czar that he is winning the dope war? What a freaking retard.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Violence is the sure sign to the czar that he is winning the dope war? What a freaking retard.</p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 23:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Burrow owl-

At this point, with police depts being used as armed tax collectors (asset forfeitures, traffic violations), we&#039;re being actively hunted down for money.  With a family, I can&#039;t become mobile right now. My property&#039;s being assessed at a higher rate, so there&#039;s more cash extracted. Unless you make it a full time job and have lots of help (which they do!), I don&#039;t see how we can fight this. 

If I would&#039;ve been &#039;off the books&#039; from the start, I&#039;d be all in.

I don&#039;t see how this can&#039;t collapse, then we might be able to make a change.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Burrow owl-</p>
<p>At this point, with police depts being used as armed tax collectors (asset forfeitures, traffic violations), we&#8217;re being actively hunted down for money.  With a family, I can&#8217;t become mobile right now. My property&#8217;s being assessed at a higher rate, so there&#8217;s more cash extracted. Unless you make it a full time job and have lots of help (which they do!), I don&#8217;t see how we can fight this. </p>
<p>If I would&#8217;ve been &#8216;off the books&#8217; from the start, I&#8217;d be all in.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see how this can&#8217;t collapse, then we might be able to make a change.</p>
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		<title>By: Burrow Owl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Burrow Owl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marty at #16:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;too bad we can’t withhold financial support from our politicians when they do stupid shit!&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

We can- but we have to do it &lt;i&gt;en masse&lt;/i&gt;.

I think the time is ripe for a national debt repudiation effort.

I, for one, am seriously considering &#039;going off the books&#039; in the next 12-24 months.

Just imagine the possibilities if even 10% of the population decided to do so as well.........................]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marty at #16:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;too bad we can’t withhold financial support from our politicians when they do stupid shit!&#8221;</i></p>
<p>We can- but we have to do it <i>en masse</i>.</p>
<p>I think the time is ripe for a national debt repudiation effort.</p>
<p>I, for one, am seriously considering &#8216;going off the books&#8217; in the next 12-24 months.</p>
<p>Just imagine the possibilities if even 10% of the population decided to do so as well&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Aresen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aresen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 19:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Marty # 12

The other countries can also face restrictions on their trade with the US, which could be economically crippling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Marty # 12</p>
<p>The other countries can also face restrictions on their trade with the US, which could be economically crippling.</p>
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		<title>By: ghjost</title>
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		<dc:creator>ghjost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 19:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thankfully, this whacko is our FORMER drug czar. Only he could see the terrorism in mexico as a positive result of our meddling in their politics. I guess when american cities start seeing mexican cartel violence in their streets, we can finally declare the drugs defeated! Oh, wait...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankfully, this whacko is our FORMER drug czar. Only he could see the terrorism in mexico as a positive result of our meddling in their politics. I guess when american cities start seeing mexican cartel violence in their streets, we can finally declare the drugs defeated! Oh, wait&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: thomasblair</title>
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		<dc:creator>thomasblair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 19:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Awfully big of Walters to so boldly sacrifice Mexican lives in order make it marginally more difficult for Americans to get high.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Marginally? Not only is weed still very easy to get, but one can find more variety than the supermarket deli case has types of cheese.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Awfully big of Walters to so boldly sacrifice Mexican lives in order make it marginally more difficult for Americans to get high.</p></blockquote>
<p>Marginally? Not only is weed still very easy to get, but one can find more variety than the supermarket deli case has types of cheese.</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd Durkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boyd Durkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 19:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If it is any solace, I hear America as a &quot;nation of consumers&quot; is about to end.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it is any solace, I hear America as a &#8220;nation of consumers&#8221; is about to end.</p>
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		<title>By: Mattocracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mattocracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 19:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What&#039;s crazy is that the violence isn&#039;t between drug cartels themselves, its between the drug cartels and the governments.  Stop waging war, and the collateral damage will stop.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s crazy is that the violence isn&#8217;t between drug cartels themselves, its between the drug cartels and the governments.  Stop waging war, and the collateral damage will stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister DNA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mister DNA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 19:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If only John &lt;i&gt;Waters&lt;/i&gt; could have been drug czar. What a difference one letter could make.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only John <i>Waters</i> could have been drug czar. What a difference one letter could make.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[^ #7: even the best inquisitors of the &#039;dark ages&#039; wouldn&#039;t have bothered with drugs or what members of their flocks consumed; &#039;God-made: must be OK&#039;, they&#039;d argue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^ #7: even the best inquisitors of the &#8216;dark ages&#8217; wouldn&#8217;t have bothered with drugs or what members of their flocks consumed; &#8216;God-made: must be OK&#8217;, they&#8217;d argue.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great argument for success!

&quot;fewer people die=we are winning&quot;
&quot;more people die=we are winning&quot;

That sounds like a win-win situation, to me!


But I could never see more people dieing, as any semblance of success!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great argument for success!</p>
<p>&#8220;fewer people die=we are winning&#8221;<br />
&#8220;more people die=we are winning&#8221;</p>
<p>That sounds like a win-win situation, to me!</p>
<p>But I could never see more people dieing, as any semblance of success!</p>
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