“Ebert went on to tell WAVY.com, “In some parts of the country Mr. Frederick would be dead now because police would not have tolerated losing one of their own. But, these fellas showed a lot of restraint that night I thought.”

“I am very disappointed in the jury’s verdict. I really thought they were going to find 2nd degree murder,” said Ebert. “Detective Jarrod Shivers lost his life for no reason.”

Yep, he lost his life for NO reason. Thats exactly right.

http://www.wavy.com/dpp/news/local_wavy_ryan_frederick_free_20090205

http://www.02.01.snc1.facebook.com/people/Jack-Crimmins/1612598435

and if you look at his list of friends, Colin Crimmins (his son?) looks to be enjoying something made for smokin’!

Even if no “official” action was taken against a cop who was revealed to be sympathetic to Ryan Frederick, here’s what would likely happen. A critical mass of the cops he works with would brand him as disloyal to his cop “brothers,” or untrustworthy, or as someone who you couldn’t depend on to have your back, or a “rat bastard” — or some other such nonsense.

In short, he’d be a pariah. That’s how the “blue wall” works — you stick with cops for any and all reasons. The sane and decent cops wouldn’t come to his defense because they’d be bucking the culture and in danger of being ostracized themselves.

Looks a bit like “criminal.”

Stranger than fiction.

Agreed, plus the State finds some people who are fine just the way they are — no changing necessary. Schoolyard bullies, hall monitors, etc.

“Their verdict today has jeopardized the lives of police officers,” Crimmins said. “I think the jury failed. They failed the community. You’ve got a man involved in an illegal enterprise, the police come to his house, and he takes the matter into his own hands.”

I found Jack Crimmins facebook page. The picture there didnt suprise me in the slightest.

http://www.02.01.snc1.facebook.com/people/Jack-Crimmins/1612598435

For example, what exactly do you think would happen if one of the posters here sympathetic to RF were revealed to be a police officer and his boss found out? Not even necessarily an officer in CPD, a police officer anywhere?

He’d be out the door, either on the spot, or after a month of making his job hell.

Ok, letting go now……. ohhhhhhhmmmmmmmm. It’s gone ….

Please try to have a nice day everyone… I have the flu so I am grumpy and maybe not getting enough oxygen to my brain.

Oh no worries, Mario. It happens. I got it on another thread for saying “Justice was not served”. I realized later that while the regulars here know my stance on this and know what im referring to, the average passer by may not and could read it as if i was against Ryan. If you thought it was me making that statement and downrated it for that reason, youre the kinda guy i like around here, so stick around.

+1 <— u get one of those too.

Great post from you as usual. While I would like nothing better than to be left alone to my own devices, this would-be atomistic individualist still enjoys fellow human company of a like mind.

I am finding that chipping away at the stone is not as futile as it first appeared. Progress is being made slowly, slowly, but surely. People are waking up to the realization that there is a war on — for the State, using the government as its muscle, makes war on its own subjects first.

History has demonstrated that the State can be relatively hypomalignant (just made that word up) and stable for limited durations, but when the balance is tipped too much in State favor, revolutions and upheaval occur.

Individual cases like Frederick and the others highlighted on this blog are the manifestations of the imbalance between the State and its subjects. I wrote it before — they are the new martyrs of anti-statism.

It is up to each of us to ensure that they have not suffered in vain. I applaud you Helmut, for offering suggestions of courses of action. Let’s keep up the pressure.

And please do not cross over to the dark side of law enforcement. If you have romantic notions of changing the State from within, let me dispel them and assure you that the State will change you first as surely as you cling to Earth and not vice-versa.

‘Sorry, the f-bomb is just a sign of a lazy mind.’
I must disagree. It’s a very appropriate set up for a fight. Effective cussing can be outstanding for stunning an opponent. Why do you think cops yell, ‘Get on the fucking ground before I blow your motherfucking head off!’

I agree that there are many other words that express rage more eloquently, but there’s nothing that expresses it more clearly.

I modded up both your original entry and the one where you so helpfully point out my “reading issues.”

Please read my original post as a criticism of the speaker you quoted. I hope others read this comment.

The first step towards defeating evil is identifying it. An f-bomb might be a lazy way of doing that, but it’s also succinct, and sufficiently forceful for the job. It might not be a particularly effective argument for convincing others of that evil, but we’ve had pages and pages, hundreds upon hundreds of comments going over the reasons and logic behind the RF case, and going over the fact that the police are now our enemies, and how best to deal with that reality.

And now we have an innocent man going to jail for a decade for unknowingly killing a member of their privileged group while they were breaking into his house for no good reason, and at least one of them bitching out the jury on TV because 10 years isn’t enough blood for his taste.

Excuse us for a minute while we express our unadulterated disgust.

Fuck the Police.

No, you will probably show it to his neighbor because you can’t get the right fucking address.

Unfortunately for her, not only did she shoot an FBI officer, she continues to shoot herself in the foot (see here and here).

I don’t find it hard to believe she thought she was protecting her children from armed intruders, but I think she’s going away for a much longer time than Ryan Frederick.

Radley, do you plan on sharing any contact information for Ryan? I think there are several people here who would like to express their support.

Some suggestions from my influenza addled mind about the police in this case .

Lazy, Incompetent, Conspiratorial, Evil, Uncaring, Corrupt, Harmful, Vile, Wicked, Wrong, repugnant, pernicious, (Ok, I actually had to look up “pernicious”) but you should get the idea of how I feel about the cops and prosecutor/persecutors in this case.

But what the thesaurus has for synonyms of “pernicious” is pretty good.

“baleful, damaging, dangerous, deadly, deleterious, destructive, detrimental, devastating, evil, fatal, harmful, iniquitous, injurious, killing, lethal, maleficent, malevolent, malicious, malign, malignant, miasmatic, miasmic, mortal, nefarious, noisome, noxious, offensive, pestiferous, pestilent, pestilential, poisonous, prejudicial, ruinous, sinister, toxic, venomous, virulent, wicked”

That almost covers it.