Forget all the witnesses besides RF and the cops, based on that alone, RF’s lies convict him. Dipshit just kills a police officer but has the presence of mind to deny that he had plants in his house when he’s interviewed as the officer is dying next to him on the sidewalk. Yeah, sure he didn’t know it was the police. All lies.

According to the testimony of Ryan Frederick he disposed of the plants days before the raid, so his statement is true if he did dispose of the plants. Your claim that he is a liar appears to be based on nothing more than your own opinion.

Affirmative self defense was not proven in this case.

I disagree. If I were on the jurry, based on what I have read so far I’d be voting not guilty. Maybe there is evidence that has been posted by Radley or Don Tabor, but other than that I disagree with your opinion.

CEH,

Yes, still stupid.

Affirmative self defense was not proven in this case. What has been proven is a willful deliberate premeditated killing of a police officer during the performance of his duties. Forget all the witnesses besides RF and the cops, based on that alone, RF’s lies convict him. Dipshit just kills a police officer but has the presence of mind to deny that he had plants in his house when he’s interviewed as the officer is dying next to him on the sidewalk. Yeah, sure he didn’t know it was the police. All lies.

What were the lies that Fredrick told? I’m gathering that you’re saying he lied about having plants. If what has been reported here is true, then he indeed had no plants.

A felony murder charge is supposed to require that the victim’s death was the result of a foreseeable chain of events stemming the accused’s actions. If the state were to argue that Wright should have foreseen the possibility that the raid would get somebody killed, they would have to concede that the police should also have foreseen that possibility. The failure of the police to take measures to reduce the risk would only be reasonable if the level of risk involved with the raid was negligible (thus implying that Shivers’ death was unforeseeable).

While one might argue that police act in unreasonable fashion sufficiently often that it should not be “unforeseeable”, I really can’t imagine a prosecutor making that argument. Such argument would be an outright admission that police cannot be reasonably expected to obey the law. Totalitarian anarchists will never admit that.

Scooby, absolutely…if he denied it later – perjury (I guess – I’m not a lawyer). Still need the victim to help with the prosecution though (again, perhaps one of the attorney’s that post on here can clarify for all).

Stupid enough for you Steve?

That was a stupid post. Please don’t do that again.

The Assistant Chesapeake Commonwealth’s Attorney OBJECTED to Wright’s release on bond. His defense attorney (maybe a friend of Broccoletti’s) was able to convince the judge otherwise. But, I have a feeling if they were able to keep him in jail, the spin you guys would put on it is that “they just want him available so he can continue to testify against RF” or something to that effect.

Also, maybe any Va. Bar practicioners perusing this can clear this up if I am wrong, although the State can bring charges in a felony matter without the victim’s consent, they still need a victim to testify and make the case. It is highly unlikely Frederick is willing to be that victim in the burglary. No victim, no charges, no case. After all, he’s not been willing, until this trial, to admit it was dope that was stolen. I guess he could still make that report now if he wanted to, but I doubt it.

SJE, there is nothing to suggest Frederick was asleep, of course only him saying so, but he’s been shown to be a liar to.

Just wanted to put things into perspective.

If I knew someone that grew or sold marijuana I could get away with all manner of theft and violence. If I get caught, the grower/dealer is my Get Out of Jail free card.

the guy may be guilty of “Felony: Dirtbag” but he didn’t tell the cops to just roll in there and risk lives on his say so. The cops decided to do that all on their own. If anyone is culpable in that manner, it would be the detective that justified the raid with crap evidence.

Not only that, but any cop who believed it would have to be a completely, utterly irresponsible member of law enforcement.

Hey, I’m sorry an officer died in this case, but it’s looking to me like the guy was a totally irresponsible loose cannon trying to put “notches on his gun” instead of protecting the public.

Let’s say this was me… I’ll play the Detective. A guy I’m interviewing (Wright) tells me he has damning testimony, a guy who sells him pot all the time and has a grow op in his garage.

great shit, right? Man, I’d love to take that down! (Remember, I’m playing the Detective… my job is to uphold the law regardless of how I feel about it.) I just have to verify that this guy a) sells drugs. b) Grows drugs for sale. Should be easy, right?

I ask him: “Great! Can you set up a buy? We just want to document an actual sale of drugs.” His possible responses are “Sure, I buy drugs from him all the time” or any variation of “No”.

If he says no for any reason I instantly know he’s full of shit and making this crap up.

Interview over. Case closed.

Sure would make it look like quid-pro-quo.

You would have to be brain-dead to not see this as a quid-pro-quo. Here you have a scumbag who has a personal vendetta against the defendant, is wanted on felony charges and conveniently is offered help on his felony if he helps nail the defendant. No conflict of interest there. No sir…