If there were some means of ensuring that innocent people didn’t get smeared, a ‘shun list’ might make things interesting. Subscribers to the list would be informed that they should not engage in unlawful harassment, but would be encouraged to engage in as many social slights as possible against certain people while remaining within the law. I would think people could make life pretty miserable for anyone whose actions were outrageous enough to justify placement on the list.

http://www.wvec.com/news/chesapeake/stories/wvec_local_012909_frederick_witness_questions.1571b69e.html

Good news.

So if these scumbag prosecutors knew (and of course they did but perhaps it can now be proven) that their witnesses were “professional witnesses” and “not credible” can we add that to the disbarment petition/complaint? Surely thats yet another violation.

I love the idea of tarring and feathering, it just seems like we could update it to the 21st century. Jim Bell’s assassination system is an amazing example of how to bring govt officials in line by using technology to fight them.

I’m not particularly computer savvy and my neighbor raises chickens and turkeys… let’s get all medieval on their asses!

That’s GREAT news. Of course most of us with a functioning brain cell or two left knew full well they were all paid liars but it’ll be great to get some credible witnesses in who can testify to exactly that fact. This will further destroy the prosecutors already ridiculously hollow case.

This morning, Mr. Broccoletti told the court that (last evening) he was contacted by three attorneys from Portsmouth (next city over) and informed that Jamal Skeeter (jailhouse snitch No. 1) is a “professional witness” and should be considered a “not credible witness.” (Gee, who woulda thunk it?). At least one of these attorneys is a Commonwealth Attorney, and one works in the Public Defenders Office.

Mr. Broccoletti stated that he needed some time to make whatever arrangements necessary to bring these attorneys in to testify (or secure their evidence in some other way).

Court recessed until 2:00 p.m.

tarring and feathering scrared the hell out of tax collectors and bad politicians so bad 220 years ago, that it’s still talked about. Surely, there’s a modern equivalent. We have so many tech geeks who are politically sharp, maybe the answer is ‘identity rebuilding’ on the computer.

The prosecutor/bad politician goes to use his credit card at the gap- ‘I’m sorry, Mr. Corrupt Penis, your card’s at it’s limit…’ Don’t steal his stuff- fuck it up to where even he doesn’t want to be him.

A digital scarlet letter, if you will.

Or… we develop our own network of snitches and start setting them up, using their own thugs against them. Hell, these dumbass kids broke into his garage and snitched for $60. I’d give ‘em $60 to plant some anhydrous and a shitload of cold medicine in someone’s basement. A couple of tips later, the word is there’s some new meth dealers.

Look what a bullshit set up did to Mayor Calvo…

Why are you blinding yourself to any wrongdoing by the police? Most of the posters here can see the recklessness and irresponsibility of their tactics. People here have explained more than once why breaking down doors is in general a bad idea and no one has come up with a good reason for the police to break down Ryan’s door with little attempt to give him a chance to comply.

You have not come up with any justifications for their actions.

Why the unquestioning support? Do you want to feel that you are protected by them? Do you want the vicarious thrill of punishing those you see as wrongdoers? Do you want to see them as heroes?

In your unwillingness to put any blame on them you end up trying to see those victimized by them as evil? But the desire to see others as evil is itself evil.

You say they have good intentions. So did the communists. Their desire to do good was the source of their evil. They were evil because their desire to do good became an obsession. The War on Drugs is an evil driven by the desire to fight a perceived evil. And because one usually has to use violence to combat violence, fighting another’s evil is always morally dangerous to those doing the fighting. Fighting evil is never good. It is merely necessary. And when you become obsessed with fighting another’s evil then you run a very high risk of doing evil yourself.

Besides obsessive idealism another source of evil is egotism, the actions of those whose opinions of themselves do mesh with reality. A lot of police seem to want to see themselves as heroes. But to do this they start seeing others as worse than they are. They need villains. They become parasites on the perceived evil of others. You see to be buying into this dangerous heroic self image.

For goodness’ sake learn a sense of proportion and ditch your self righteousness.

The defense started its case just before 4:00 p.m., immediately making two motions. One was to downgrade the capital murder charge to second degree murder or lower and the other was to strike the marijuana manufacturing charge against Frederick.

The judge rejected those motions.

This rejection could be the best thing for the defense. The jury might be inclined to convict for second degree murder, but capital murder, with the risk of the death penalty or life without parole, is a whole ‘nuther ballgame.

Even the marijuana manufacturing charge, if it stood alone without the death of a cop in the picture, is specious at best. I think the desperate ploy of jailhouse snitches –obviously liars, to a man– would be likely to win an acquital. The downside is that Brocoletti stipulated RF had grown his own marijuana in the past: this is “manufacturing”.

I predict: acquittal on capital murder, conviction on manufacturing marijuana.

Works for me.

I don’t imagine it would have to be done too many times before the bastards begin to get the hint.

(While I say that more-or-less tongue-in-cheek now, if events continue on their present course, I can easily envision a time when that may not be the case.)

Hopefully, more people keep reporting and asking questions and someone will figure out how to make a difference. I don’t see how there can be any response but violence. How does a guy like RF get his life back on track? Civil lawsuits can take years. I’d be amazed if he has any personal assets left. He’ll always have a black mark on his name.

The Duke case must be seen as a fluke, because nobody’s talking about it and nothing’s changed. I can’t imagine where those boys would be if they had to rely on public defenders.

We need a MLK type leader who can galvanize people to start marching…

The judge made the decision about not letting the jury see inside the house due to the changes. That was the reason they went in advance of the jury.

A knuckle-dragging troll at that!

Mr. Balko – You really need to be there to hear and see the evidence. There will be a conviction here. We’ll see what the jury says. Defense should rest Thursday. Hopefully, the jury will have it by Friday a.m. with a verdict by p.m. so you guys can cry in your beer all weekend.

Don’t waste your breath. Lima Charlie is a LE troll from the tidwater liberty forum.

The state rested based on that, the irrelevant testimony of Shivers’ widow, and the testimony of a bunch of cops who couldn’t get their story straight. Oh, and one other cop they tried to keep off the stand who came back from Georgia to prove the prosecution out and out lied in its opening statement.

It’s telling that Ebert didn’t want the jury to go inside the house (or, for that matter, to even visit it). I’m sure Broccoletti would have jumped at the chance to put them in the bedroom, and have a cop or two pound on the front door and announce. Try it sometime, LC. I have. It’s damned near impossible to make out what the knocker is saying.

If Ebert got the kneejerk jury he wanted (dope + dead cop = murder), then yeah, he’ll be fine.

But he sure as hell didn’t prove his case beyond a reasonable doubt.