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	<title>Comments on: El Paso City Council Wants Discussion on Drug Legalization</title>
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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/01/09/el-paso-city-council-wants-discussion-on-drug-legalization/comment-page-1/#comment-228918</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 05:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I live in Florida so I have no idea about the politics of El Paso but it is possible that the mayor actually supports this but knows that signing this will cost the city federal and state money that will be needed when the violence spills over.  The unanimous vote could give the mayor what he needs to make it a news story at to start to push the debate.  

In the world that is this might be the best that could be done.  Or the guy is a dick that can&#039;t look over the boarder to see how senseless this all is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Florida so I have no idea about the politics of El Paso but it is possible that the mayor actually supports this but knows that signing this will cost the city federal and state money that will be needed when the violence spills over.  The unanimous vote could give the mayor what he needs to make it a news story at to start to push the debate.  </p>
<p>In the world that is this might be the best that could be done.  Or the guy is a dick that can&#8217;t look over the boarder to see how senseless this all is.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynical In CA</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/01/09/el-paso-city-council-wants-discussion-on-drug-legalization/comment-page-1/#comment-228798</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynical In CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yup, Zeb.  The same people who think wet sidewalks cause rain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, Zeb.  The same people who think wet sidewalks cause rain.</p>
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		<title>By: Zeb</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/01/09/el-paso-city-council-wants-discussion-on-drug-legalization/comment-page-1/#comment-228771</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you really want to drive yourself crazy, check out Pete Guither&#039;s compilation of the idiotic comments in response to an article on this in a local paper: http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/2009/01/07.html .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you really want to drive yourself crazy, check out Pete Guither&#8217;s compilation of the idiotic comments in response to an article on this in a local paper: <a href="http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/2009/01/07.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/2009/01/07.html</a> .</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/01/09/el-paso-city-council-wants-discussion-on-drug-legalization/comment-page-1/#comment-228744</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BTW, Councilman O&#039;Rourke&#039;s full statement is available here:

http://www.celebstoner.com/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, Councilman O&#8217;Rourke&#8217;s full statement is available here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.celebstoner.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.celebstoner.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/01/09/el-paso-city-council-wants-discussion-on-drug-legalization/comment-page-1/#comment-228743</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I read the statement by El Paso Councilman Roberto O&#039;Rourke--the one who drafted the resolution--and found it to be one of the sanest, clearest statements on the failure of the War on Some Drugs ever made by a politician. So I was not at all surprised that the Mayor vetoed it.
I&#039;d love to see Councilman O&#039;Rourke get together with his namesake P.J. and go on a barnstorming tour of Texas promoting drug legalization.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the statement by El Paso Councilman Roberto O&#8217;Rourke&#8211;the one who drafted the resolution&#8211;and found it to be one of the sanest, clearest statements on the failure of the War on Some Drugs ever made by a politician. So I was not at all surprised that the Mayor vetoed it.<br />
I&#8217;d love to see Councilman O&#8217;Rourke get together with his namesake P.J. and go on a barnstorming tour of Texas promoting drug legalization.</p>
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		<title>By: nemo</title>
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		<dc:creator>nemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The point is that the painfully obvious is finally being given the voice it&#039;s been denied all these decades. For decades, the DrugWarriors have dodged the &#039;bullet&#039; that a real, actual public policy debate on the efficacy of the DrugWar would represent for them. 

When the drug law reformers make the offer to debate, they either hear desperate silence masked as bravado, or pathetic attempts to beg off by saying that the &#039;science&#039; backs them, so no debate is necessary. Press them, and they get nasty, saying that they don&#039;t discuss laws against murder with murderers, or laws against child abuse with pederasts. 

But the money to run Gub&#039;mint is running out; no amount of printing up more currency is going to magically increase its&#039; value. It&#039;s triage time, and some Fed agencies should either have their budgets reduced or be eliminated altogether, and their funding allocated towards more effective or needed programs...and top of the list of prospective &#039;burnt offerings&#039; should be the DrugWar and every agency that&#039;s gotten arrogant, fat, bellicose on it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point is that the painfully obvious is finally being given the voice it&#8217;s been denied all these decades. For decades, the DrugWarriors have dodged the &#8216;bullet&#8217; that a real, actual public policy debate on the efficacy of the DrugWar would represent for them. </p>
<p>When the drug law reformers make the offer to debate, they either hear desperate silence masked as bravado, or pathetic attempts to beg off by saying that the &#8216;science&#8217; backs them, so no debate is necessary. Press them, and they get nasty, saying that they don&#8217;t discuss laws against murder with murderers, or laws against child abuse with pederasts. </p>
<p>But the money to run Gub&#8217;mint is running out; no amount of printing up more currency is going to magically increase its&#8217; value. It&#8217;s triage time, and some Fed agencies should either have their budgets reduced or be eliminated altogether, and their funding allocated towards more effective or needed programs&#8230;and top of the list of prospective &#8216;burnt offerings&#8217; should be the DrugWar and every agency that&#8217;s gotten arrogant, fat, bellicose on it.</p>
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		<title>By: scott clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ummm, does anybody in El Paso (or anywhere) think that the city council&#039;s resolution would mean anything to the Feds?  I was at my local Cox Cable office switching out my cable box and I saw all these resolutions frome the House of Reps and the Senate about what a great cable company Cox is.  I think Cox would be  the same without the resolutions as with them]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ummm, does anybody in El Paso (or anywhere) think that the city council&#8217;s resolution would mean anything to the Feds?  I was at my local Cox Cable office switching out my cable box and I saw all these resolutions frome the House of Reps and the Senate about what a great cable company Cox is.  I think Cox would be  the same without the resolutions as with them</p>
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		<title>By: Cynical In CA</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2009/01/09/el-paso-city-council-wants-discussion-on-drug-legalization/comment-page-1/#comment-228716</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynical In CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The people of El Paso, through their elected representatives (I guess that&#039;s the only way their voices can be heard), certainly can express their opinions.  &quot;Freedom of speech&quot; is an essential fig leaf for the State&#039;s naked power, as it perpetuates the myth of popular sovereignty.

Scant recognition is about all they&#039;ll get.

The drug war will never end.  It is a key source of unlimited revenue and control of the population for the ruling class and its minions in government.  They&#039;d be fools to end it without being forced to.  Nothing short of a revolution will accomplish that.

Wake me up when it&#039;s over.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people of El Paso, through their elected representatives (I guess that&#8217;s the only way their voices can be heard), certainly can express their opinions.  &#8220;Freedom of speech&#8221; is an essential fig leaf for the State&#8217;s naked power, as it perpetuates the myth of popular sovereignty.</p>
<p>Scant recognition is about all they&#8217;ll get.</p>
<p>The drug war will never end.  It is a key source of unlimited revenue and control of the population for the ruling class and its minions in government.  They&#8217;d be fools to end it without being forced to.  Nothing short of a revolution will accomplish that.</p>
<p>Wake me up when it&#8217;s over.</p>
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