More on Robbie Tolan

Thursday, January 8th, 2009

This isn’t looking good:

It was 2 a.m. on December 31 when Tolan and his cousin, Anthony Cooper, were confronted in the driveway of their home by Bellaire, Texas, police officers. Police officials say the officers suspected the two young men were driving a stolen car.

Bellaire is a prominent, mostly white suburb in southwest Houston.

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Tolan’s relatives say the two young men had just arrived from a late-night run to a Jack-in-the-Box fast food restaurant.

As they walked up the driveway to their home, Anthony Cooper said an unidentified man emerged from the darkness with a flashlight and a gun pointed at them.

“We did not know it was a police officer,” said Cooper. “He said, ‘Stop. Stop.’ And we were like, ‘Why? Who are you?’”

The officers ordered both men to lie down on the ground. Tolan’s parents heard the commotion and came outside. Police will only say an “altercation” took place. Tolan’s family say it involved his mother.

“The cop pushed her against the wall,” said Tolan’s uncle, Mike Morris.

Relatives say Tolan started to lean up from the ground to ask the officer what he was doing to his mother. That’s when the family says Tolan was shot in the chest, the bullet piercing his lung and then lodging in his liver.

But Tolan’s SUV wasn’t stolen. Both men were unarmed and relatives say they were hardly a threat to the police officer.

Tolan happens to be the son of a former major league baseball player, and is in the early stages of his own pro baseball career. The police department initially denied racial profiling played a role, but has now stopped talking about the case publicly, saying only that “they’re investigating how the officers on the scene mistakenly determined that the SUV Tolan and his cousin were driving had been stolen.”

Even if there had been an SUV reported stolen that night that looked like the one Tolan’s cousin was driving, you first have to wonder why the cops wouldn’t run the plates before ordering everyone out of the truck at gunpoint. And that’s before you start looking at the shooting, and the confrontation with Tolan’s mother.

If there wasn’t an SUV reported stolen that night that looked like the one Tolan was in, this is going to get really, really ugly.

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60 Responses to “More on Robbie Tolan”

  1. #1 |  No one you've heard of anyway | 

    What are the odds the only charge out of this ends up being on the mother?

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  2. #2 |  Boyd Durkin | 

    Outrageous! Those officers should be suspended with pay and then face re-training. Let’s also have the taxpayers write some checks to the family.

    Guns don’t kill people, cops kill people.

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  3. #3 |  Mr Magnum | 

    Why should the car matter? I saw one in Baltimore a couple of years back where someone had a red 2-door Caddy impounded, seized and auctioned. They were looking for a white 4-door. The case went all the way to trial, where he was found not guilty of stealing his own car. Too bad about it belonging to someone else now.

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  4. #4 |  Kwix | 

    Bullet pierced a lung and hit his liver? Boy is lucky he didn’t bleed out on the spot.
    The cop should be fired and probably charged with attempted murder. He won’t be of course but maybe he won’t win “officer of the year” for it either.

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  5. #5 |  Jason | 

    Too early to draw conclusions.

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  6. #6 |  wunder | 

    It didn’t take the cops long to draw their own conclusions, and immediately after that - their guns. Only words here.

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  7. #7 |  ktc2 | 

    Let’s hope for a properly directed (at LE) riot.

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  8. #8 |  Craig | 

    Gee, imagine that. Another cop way out of line. Thinking he can do whatever he wants. All police need supervision. This is getting ridiculous. Put a camera on their shoulder so THEY can be monitored.

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  9. #9 |  Mojotron | 

    Too early to draw conclusions.

    no, too early to draw a gun

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  10. #10 |  Darius | 

    The chief said that they are trying to figure out how they mistakenly thought the car was stolen. It’s simple you run the plates if it’s not reported stolen you leave them alone. I wonder…. what would be another reason the officers would suspect the car to be stolen. I have a friend who lives close to this neighborhood and told me he gets followed quite often.

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  11. #11 |  sailingwindward | 

    The problem is the training, police are trained to know that 2 black men in a car = grand theft auto and more than one black man ridding the subway in California = justification for shooting even if the man is handcuffed and has his back turned while on the ground. When you are trained that a certain race is less than human then it allows you to treat them worse than you would an animal.

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  12. #12 |  claude | 

    The key to this one is in the first line of the story:

    “It was 2 a.m. on December 31″

    See, it was the last day of the year and obviously these officers were behind on “raid kill points” for the year and were hoping to catch up b4 2009. Remember…second place is really just the first loser.

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  13. #13 |  Tokin42 | 

    I hate to say this but maybe riots aren’t counter-productive as people say they are. What else are people supposed to do in order to change a system that is almost out of control. Maybe the people of that neighborhood ought to look at Oakland and take some lessons. Of course, it might take a bit more before people are willing to burn down their own McMansion in protest.

    We all know what’s going to happen to this cop, if he doesn’t walk outright but somehow manages to actually get charged he’ll get a better deal than Derrick Foster.

    http://www.theagitator.com/2009/01/07/too-bad-2/

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  14. #14 |  Roger | 

    When are people going to finally stop making excuses for these rogue cops killing us Black people? why must there always be “an explanation” ? there is no justification for this..it’s time to stop protecting these cowards that wear a badge and prosecute them..
    Let’s see..Dec 31 2008 and two UNARMED black men are shot by cops with one dying..when shall the madness stop?

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  15. #15 |  Will | 

    #9 wrong

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  16. #16 |  Will | 

    I had a cop pull me over for no headlight on my Hog, He was very nice until he came back with gun drawn and stated that the bike was hot. I yelled at him and told him he was full of shit. He recheck and found that he had called in the last letter as a F instead of a E. This was in 1989. Today he probably would have shot me for yelling at him.

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  17. #17 |  TBoneJones | 

    “really really ugly”???? Wrong. Only a thousand people protested about that black kid the bart cop shot. This isn’t the 60s-70-s. Cops can do whatever they want. Worst thing can happen to them is a note in their file. About the dumbist thing people ever did was allow “lawmakers” to give cops financial immunity from personal responsibility for their actions. They have no incintive to behave.

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  18. #18 |  Helmut O' Hooligan | 

    #8 Craig: “All police need supervision. This is getting ridiculous. Put a camera on their shoulder so THEY can be monitored.”

    That may have to happen, and the technology certainly exists to do it. Not too long ago, I saw a poll on the website of “Police Magazine” about this topic (I used to subscribe to this mag; most of it is dedicated to advertising or promoting the “macho cop” image, so I stopped receiving it). If I recall right, 40% of the respondents said they would be willing to wear a camera while on duty, which was a pleasant suprise to me. I was not sure about it, and thought that privacy groups might have an objection to the practice. However, I think we’re getting to a point where it might be necessary. If the police don’t have anything to hide…well, you know the rest.

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  19. #19 |  Nathan A | 

    Bellaire police chief: rmack@bellairepolice.com

    Assistant chief: bholloway@bellairepolice.com

    Let ‘em know what you think of their “peace officers”.

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  20. #20 |  Cynical In CA | 

    I’m surprised they didn’t call Tolan a prostitute and try to throw him in their van.

    Slightly OT: I have an old baseball card of Bobbie Tolan from like 1974. Haven’t thought about him in years. My best to the family.

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  21. #21 |  Morgan Painter | 

    This is a disgusting situation. A reportedly innocent, unarmed young man badly wounded. If we have correct info, the police did not properly identify themselves which is very odd, unprofessional. The people coming out of the house only added to the tension and made the situation worse. The young man on the ground rightfully upset over the treatment of his mother should NOT have moved.
    People please take note.

    If a policeman has a gun on you because he thinks you might be a criminal, ANY move might be interpreted as an attempt to attack or escape. You make yourself a target by moving. STAY DOWN. DON’T GIVE THEM A REASON TO SHOOT.

    IF, and I mean IF, the mother approached the police being verbal or physical, she elevated the situation. People please stay back and resolve a situation like this calmly. Resisting or protesting only makes it worse and increases the likelihood police will shoot in defense of what they see as an intimidating situation. I do NOT support the policeman’s actions, it appears he was in the wrong. But it is possible the family agitated the situation unnecessarily.

    If a cop had a gun on my son in the driveway, I would NOT go outside and make it worse. I would tell the officer I am video recording and calling 911. That should be enough to make them proceed with due caution.

    If I go outside making noise and approach the police I increase the odds someone will get shot.

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  22. #22 |  Ganja Blue | 

    In Memphis, probably elsewhere too, my black friends call it DWB. I know law abiding, employed, educated black men who won’t even drive through the burbs at night for fear of the police. I still have a hard time convincing them that the solution is limiting government.

    Speaking of shootings, I found this story a few days ago and haven’t heard much else about it: Three policemen shot when serving a narcotics warrant, the suspect says he didn’t know they were police, and no narcotics were found.
    http://www.lvrj.com/news/breaking_news/36841849.html

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  23. #23 |  KBCraig | 

    A public records request, and certainly the Tolans’ lawyer’s subpoena, will reveal if the police actually called in the plates, and whether it returned as stolen.

    As noted above, mistakes are made all the time in entering plate numbers, serial numbers, VINs, etc., into police databases. That doesn’t justify such an extreme reaction, though: even if Robbie was about to jump to his feet, shooting would not be justified.

    Oh, and speaking of that: lung + liver = shot while prone.

    Don’t ask how three shots = one hit + two in the ceiling of the porch. It must be another one of those “I’m the only one professional enough to carry *blam!*” moments.

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  24. #24 |  T. Reed | 

    Cop Story: Mom took gun from me. Shot ceiling and son. No video. That’s my story and I’m stick’n with it.

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  25. #25 |  David | 

    As someone that lives in the area and is surprised [in a good way] to find out that this story made it to CNN, let me shed some light on the subject:

    It is an unspoken rule that you DO NOT drive even a mile over the speed limit while going through Bellaire (look it up on a map. Major streets cut through the city) lest you want to be pulled over and end up with a bullshit ticket, and you DO NOT drive through there after dark if you’re not white.

    If you live around here, there’s a pretty damn good reason why the streets almost seem dead after 8 or 9 pm.

    Same thing goes for West University, which is only a few miles up the road, and same goes for Memorial, which is not nearby, but has the same type of cops.

    There’s a reason why the property values are pretty damn high, and there’s a reason why all of the residents around there don’t mind the tax bill: If you buy there, you know everyone on your block will be the same color, and that’s not going to change.

    I’m actually kinda glad that kid got shot. It finally brought to light something that has been swept under the rug for far too long.

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  26. #26 |  David | 

    Before I forget, our local ABC station just had a former Astro player, and former Bellaire resident, call in and describe a very similar incident.

    Of course, since he has money to hire The Very Well Paid Lawyer, he got a personal apology letter from the Chief of Police of the City of Bellaire.

    Every other poor shmuck gets arrested, tossed in jail, and sent to Harris County holding for processing.

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  27. #27 |  adam | 

    In Oakland they raised hell. In Texas no one cares. It probably wouldn’t even be news, if his father didn’t win a world series. Of course bush doesn’t care about black people, he’s from Texas. If they burned Oakland to the ground, how could you tell?

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  28. #28 |  andy benn | 

    you don’t just fire the cops. you also file a section 1983 lawsuit against the town and the cops in their individual capacities for violating mr. tolan’s civil rights. Multimillion dollars liability in such actions tends to encourage municipalities to provide better training and hire less incompetent personnel.

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  29. #29 |  Mike | 

    Unbelievably, someone actually works “Bush doesn’t care about Black people” into this discussion…

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  30. #30 |  Mike T | 

    I’m sad to say it, but we’re starting to reach the point where vigilante justice against these rogue cops might be the only thing that will make them think twice about abusing the citizenry under the color of authority.

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  31. #31 |  Whim | 

    Everyone knows by now that eating too much fast food is bad for your health.

    Especially at 2:00 a.m., and Driving While Black…………..

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  32. #32 |  CHRISC | 

    Well, there is a silver lining to this. Thank God the family dog wasn’t killed. Clearly the “new professionalism” is taking hold. Oh, they didn’t have a dog? Never mind….

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  33. #33 |  av | 

    “If a policeman has a gun on you because he thinks you might be a criminal, ANY move might be interpreted as an attempt to attack or escape. You make yourself a target by moving. STAY DOWN. DON’T GIVE THEM A REASON TO SHOOT.”

    Well that worked well for the kid in the subway. Watch the video. He lurches as they are pusing him down, and because he tries to slow his impact on the floor officer mehersle puts a round in his back.

    I think what we need to see is more homicide charges against cops who shoot unarmed civilians without clear evidence that they were in immediate jeopardy.

    Cops are entirely too quick to pull a lethal weapon on civilians and civilian pets these days because they feel threatened.

    Cops should be seeking ways to reduce the confrontation instead of reaching for lethal or near-lethal weapons. Maybe the knowledge that if they cause unjustified injury or death then they will face jail time will do that.

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  34. #34 |  Josh | 

    “I’m sad to say it, but we’re starting to reach the point where vigilante justice against these rogue cops might be the only thing that will make them think twice about abusing the citizenry under the color of authority.”

    All that is going to accomplish is more dead people. Cops have these things strapped to them, they’re called radios, you might have heard of them. It will only take them about three seconds of speaking to bring down an army on any single location in their jurisdiction.

    Besides, how many arrests, even unlawful arrests, happen in the United States on a daily basis? How many of these absurdly hideous cases that Radley brings to light pop up? What’s the percentage here?

    Take a part time job working at a gas station, buddy. Spend some chill time with your local law enforcement. Out of ten, maybe 1 or 2 will be monsters. The rest will be regular Joes who don’t think smoking a joint is worth the paperwork, will let you off with a warning if something is wrong with your car, and will gladly stop and give you directions if you’re lost.

    There is no accounting for that small % that are completely deranged. Morgan is completely correct, attempting to escalate the situation further with anger and violence is idiotic to the point of being ridiculous. Simply open your door and stand inside your house, taping. They can’t stop you. Yell at your kid to be completely still and just do what the cop tells you. Don’t yell “pig” or run at the cop screaming at them to get off yo boy. You’ve done nothing wrong, correct?

    So what is there to fear? Other than instilling fear on a public servant who’s holding a loaded firearm, that is.

    And Roger… I wish I had an answer. Legally I’m white, but I stay indoors as much as possible and I pass for white. If I tan I get pulled over weeky for being brown. I’m Indian. I refuse to do the paperwork and get a tribe card; I don’t care about free money I didn’t earn. The problem is I’ll instantly be a minority and to be honest, I don’t feel like that kind of treatment. Not that being white is much better; trust me, I don’t want to be around them, man, but it’s better than getting shot.

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  35. #35 |  S | 

    Police have become far too reliant on the use of force in what should be simple encounters. There was no need for the mother to be pushed. There was no need for the two young men to be roughed up at all. Run the plates, ask some questions. And here’s a novel idea for the police: when upset people ask why this is happening, how about respond politely and informatively to the question rather than threatening them with obstruction or shooting them with a taser or gun?

    We pay for the police in this country, so we really do have the right to demand they change their ways. I think it’s past time for us to do so. I, for one, am sick and tired of hearing about unarmed citizens getting shot (even the ones who are being lawfully arrested).

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  36. #36 |  Michael | 

    #23
    In response to the hit. The anatomy of the lowere chest is such that if a bullet enters the lower chest it will almost always hit the liver. It comes up a lot higher than you think. It is real common. Look up the anatomy if you don’t believe me.

    My knowledge comes from the education. I had masters level training (didn’t finish my research paper to get MS degree) in Anatomy in college before I became a surgeon.

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  37. #37 |  Houston_Texas | 

    This is what I head from a friend of Tolan’s:

    The officer had Tolan and his cousin on the ground and his family came outside to see whats going on. His mother then tried to interfere with the officer so the officer was forcing his mother back physically. Tolan then got off the ground and started being hostile to the officer about being physical with his mother. Tolan gets shot. Not alot of details but you get the idea about the officer having to deal with Tolan’s family and then Tolan turning into a gangsta and getting off the ground when an armed officer tells you to stay on the ground.

    If an officer tells you to get on the ground you stay on the ground. Duh.

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  38. #38 |  Marty | 

    josh #34-

    That’s a great post, very reasoned. I wish I could buy into it. I’ve worked with cops my entire career (EMS/Fire) and my best friend is a cop. The job duties scream out for douchebags. They’re rewarded for abusing the citizens. The more bullshit tickets they write (traffic nazis), the more revenue the city generates and the more overtime the cop gets. It seems they can’t win MADD awards without writing questionable citations. Look at the federal grants available to fight recreational drugs. Asset forfeiture. ‘Self-initiated arrests’. SWAT teams doing warrant service. They’re not applying for a job to be Andy Griffith.

    You say, ‘There is no accounting for that small % that are completely deranged.’ I say, ‘Bullshit- I’m stunned that there’s a small % that isn’t completely deranged.’

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  39. #39 |  Josh | 

    #37, Marty,

    I’m reasoning on the side of not getting shot.

    Nowhere did I equate the police with justice or morality, and I shouldn’t, ‘cuz that’s not in their job description.

    Everyone should know by now to assume that the police are insane, akin to Yosemite Sam on meth, but some of the above posts would do nothing but exacerbate the situation. Who honestly wants to see a family member get shot? It’s better to simply be wronged by a semi-retarded cop and deal with it through the courts; an additional benefit is that when your kid is spending 12 hours a day in court, 40 minutes of which is the actual hearing proceedings, he’ll certainly see enough to avoid _actually_ breaking any laws in the future.

    Sure they’re douchebags; I’m not disagreeing with you.

    They’re douchebags with semi-automatic firearms and batons. You don’t have to pay respect to the cop, just pay respect for his ability to inflict grievous harm upon your family for no reason, and that no amount of money will ever properly compensate you for.

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  40. #40 |  Invid | 

    #37 | Houston_Texas

    If an officer tells you he’s gonna rape your wife, let him rape your wife. Duh.

    Brilliant reasoning.

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  41. #41 |  Cynical In CA | 

    #25 | David | January 9th, 2009 at 3:24 am

    “I’m actually kinda glad that kid got shot. It finally brought to light something that has been swept under the rug for far too long.”

    I know where you’re going with this, but that’s one of the more unfortunate sentences I’ve read in a while. Appreciated the local perspective, though.

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  42. #42 |  Cynical In CA | 

    #30 | Mike T | January 9th, 2009 at 8:12 am

    “I’m sad to say it, but we’re starting to reach the point where vigilante justice against these rogue cops might be the only thing that will make them think twice about abusing the citizenry under the color of authority.”

    Who is Jim Bell?

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  43. #43 |  Marty | 

    Josh,

    I’m a little confused- you say ‘Everyone should know by now to assume that the police are insane, akin to Yosemite Sam on meth, but some of the above posts would do nothing but exacerbate the situation.’ in post 39, but in post 34 you say ‘Out of ten, maybe 1 or 2 will be monsters. The rest will be regular Joes…’ I’m not seeing many ‘regular joes’.

    I don’t agree with assuming they’re insane. They look like sociopaths drunk on power- not ill people unable to determine right from wrong. The simplest situations are being escalated by the obvious contempt many have for the public. How do you de-escalate a situation for someone who shows nothing but contempt for you? If it’s a spouse, you get divorced… if it’s an employer, you get a new job… if it’s the govt, you’re fucked.

    Why do we tolerate these assholes?!!!

    http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_141946.asp

    Because they have the power and the court backs them. We need to find another way to deal with them…

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  44. #44 |  Marty | 

    Cynical,

    I may have to have this made into a bumper sticker!

    ‘Who is Jim Bell?’

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  45. #45 |  Josh | 

    #43, Marty,

    “I’m a little confused- you say ‘Everyone should know by now to assume that the police are insane, akin to Yosemite Sam on meth, but some of the above posts would do nothing but exacerbate the situation.’ in post 39, but in post 34 you say ‘Out of ten, maybe 1 or 2 will be monsters. The rest will be regular Joes…’ I’m not seeing many ‘regular joes’.”

    The same that you assume that a dog you don’t know is a biter, you don’t immediately run at it and start petting it all over the head.

    You assume the cop is a sociopath looking to beat you half to death for giggles. Not because they all are, or even the majority of them are.

    Don’t provoke an unfamiliar dog.

    And if the government decides to basically sodomize you, well, there’s nothing you’re going to do to interrupt it, the best you can hope for is legal satisfaction afterwards. Even if you come home and catch a uniformed cop beating and raping your wife, if you shoot him you’ll probably still go to jail.

    Someone in one of these threads said that only in Texas is it legal to defend yourself against a cop if they’re breaking the law.

    No one’s saying it’s right. If you don’t want to get eaten by sharks you can stay the hell out of the water. Not much you can do against crooked cops, unless you change some politics.

    Killing one would basically be the end of your life as well, no matter how in the right you are. Which yeah, that sucks, but this kid might not have been shot if everyone had been a hell of a lot more submissive at the scene.

    This would just be another wrongful arrest lawsuit.

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  46. #46 |  cjersey | 

    I’m sorry, this will continue untill cops start killing other than minorities on a regular basis.this may sound bad but it’s true.

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  47. #47 |  BamBam | 

    but this kid might not have been shot if everyone had been a hell of a lot more submissive at the scene.

    This is part of the problem … We The People have become far too pliant and placated that we are seen as submissive and docile sheep. This breeds further contempt and abuse by those in “power”. They have no FEAR OF GOD in them because they know most citizens are pliant, submissive BITCHES. The courts rarely mete out justice — they are courts of INjustice.

    My views might mean a lot of martyrs, but that is the only solution. Try to work with your government to solve it? The same system that led us to this point? You have to understand what you are fighting in order to have success (which won’t come at no cost). You are fighting a system - and thus people - that have the deck stacked against YOU, in order to control your actions more and more as the years go by. Do you think for a second that a messiah will come by and wave a magic wand to fix it all? That asking nicely will slowly change things? The system attracts and breeds monsters, and monsters won’t give up their sources of power. Might makes right, ends justify the means, etc. to these monsters (cops, prosecutors, judges, city council, mayors, governors, federal legislators). Every once in a while you get an honest person speaking the facts, such as a Ron Paul, but for every 1 of him there are hundreds of monsters.

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  48. #48 |  Michael | 

    I do not want to seem racist, but is this a race behavior thing , as well? I see an awful lot of black people beating others up in court, too. Do they have a problem with authority because they have been bludgeoned so much, in our past?

    And even the kid who got shot by the BART officer, was wiggling around on the ground when they were cuffing him. I would expect a “victim” (not perp) to be, absolutely, still if they are “cooperating”. The above observed behavior, still, in no way justifies the Bart officer even pulling his gun out! Maybe it is because black people, for so long, have always been the “good little n—” and they are tired of the crap! I don’t know. I don’t want to seem insensitive. I know how bigotry can be used to hurt good people, black or white. I have too many (more than none!) family members that are racist, as well.

    I just think that if I am ever in such a situation, I won’t so much as blink. I know they have the guns and can use about any reason they want to shoot and kill me! We have turned into a police state, again. I thought that stuff was controlled back in the sixties when everyone cried police brutality! Here it come lifting its nasty head up, again!

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  49. #49 |  David | 

    Marty,

    Just look at the cops that are in hot water for the arrest and assault (two separate incidents) at two Critical Mass events. It’s not that hard to find, they’re all over youtube.

    Watch it, and tell me that there aren’t cops with chips on their shoulders.

    I’m not saying every cop does, but there are a handful.

    Bellaire is KNOWN for their asshole cops who have a propensity for pulling over minorities AND high school age kids. EVERYONE in all of the local high schools (St. Thomas, Strake Jesuit, Episcopal, Bellaire, Lamar, etc.) know that you DO NOT give Bellaire cops a reason to pull you over- You either end up with a ticket for the most inane thing, or in handcuffs. There’s rarely, if ever, an inbetween.

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  50. #50 |  Mario | 

    Now, I’m no math major. But, were it true that “1 or 2 out of 10 are monsters,” that would be WAAAAYYYYY too large a percentage for any civilized country.

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  51. #51 |  DirtyCops | 

    The lawyer really needs to be investigating the cops background. Checking his close family members, friends and places he frequents. I guarantee this was a case of the angry redneck getting revenge over his wife, daughter or someone else screwing some black guy. I’m sure they will find other situations in his folder. They might even need to check into who Tolan has been spending time with. He obviously attacked his mother to get a reaction out of the kid. Cops know how to turn a routine stop into an opportunity to shoot someone. The cops camera should have captured the audio. The front yard doesn’t look to be that far away from the street. I hope this is more than a payday for the lawyer. He can really screw this up and still get paid. Why is this investigation taking so long to complete? The cop was in the wrong. Lets get him fired so he can go back to his trailer park a complete failure and bum to complete his family’s legacy.

    Some people refuse to come into today with us. Still holding onto fear and hate. This shouldn’t be an issue in 2009. Yet another part of our government that has been failing us. It is time to evaluate the system and make some serious changes. It has been long past time that we enable an active monitor on police activities. If big brother is watching us, he should also be watching them.

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  52. #52 |  Tropical Storm | 

    #21 - If someone outside of my home in plain clothes had a gun pointed at my one of my kids, no army could keep me from rushing outside to protect them.

    Just when you think society is finally seeing the light, some idiot has to throw us back another 10 steps. My prayers go out to this strong young man and his family, as well as the families of Oscar Grant and Adolph Grimes III, two young black men that have lost their lives already this year in this same barbaric fashion.

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  53. #53 |  oaklandresident | 

    I live in oakland and this story didn’t seem to get the same attention as bart “officer’s” one. That guy is now under custody and is going to be charged with murder. What I don’t get is how if a regular person pushes or fights a cop they usually end up getting attempted murder charges and a whole long list of charges……but why can’t an “officer” who shoots an unarmed civillian get similar charges. And its sad that it took protests and violence to get oakland and bart officials moving with the case.

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  54. #54 |  Kellon | 

    Hey david comment # 26 what was the name if that Astros player?

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  55. #55 |  No more dirty cops | 

    Another young black man is almost killed by a white cop. It’s pretty sad when an unarmed man is shot on his own front porch by a dirty cop. I assume the police force will cover this up but this cop should be charged with attempted murder.

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  56. #56 |  Anthony Knotts | 

    Just watched Real Sports piece on HBO. 1st, let me wish a fellow African-American baseball player a speedy recovery. As with most shady officer involved shootings, no person of authority will extend an apology or except responsibility. The mayor of in the segment was an unsympathetic jackass. The answers she gave to the tough questions showed absolutely no class. She is delusional at best. It’s sad when you’re treated as less than human because of your skin tone. It is time to move forward as a people to stop this insanity!!!!!

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  57. #57 |  Vernetta Parrish | 

    I am outraged by this!!!! We as African Americans know what this was all about. A racially motivated incident that did not ahve to happen! These racist white people need to be stopped and I encourage the family to stay persistent, God will truly prevail in all of this. God protects the right and his children and believe me he will do that for you; prayers work and I am praying for the family. Pull out all stops and go through every door and avenue you can possibly go through for justice, this is truly wrong and the city as well as the Mayor and Police Dept. know this is wrong. Please stay persistent, please don’t give up and know I am praying for you.

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  58. #58 |  Erica | 

    I’m a white female in Tx and really feel ill after viewing this very sad story. I would like to know what I can do to help, I want to know what we can all do as people to stop acts like this on anyone! I hate this story and feel the people ( black, white and other) should plan a riot, just make sure to take it to the suburbs and not the Hood. We need to come together and hit them where it hurts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  59. #59 |  Babbley | 

    I won’t rush to judgement on whether the cops were wrong or not but you have to look at what’s happening to people of color being either fatally shot or injured by firearms when dealing with police officers. I can name at least 3 incidents in the last 2 yrs alone, including the 92 yr old black woman who was killed in Atlanta when cops burst into to her home in the middle of the night in search of drugs. She defended herself and lost her life and never had any drugs. Those officers got between 5 & 10 yrs. I never heard no more about the young black kid in Mississippi. Can anyone think of an instance where a black cop has shot a white person justified or unjustified? Is seems to be much more prevalent in the black communities. I seems as though what Michael Vick did was equally as bad as killing a person, wonder why that was?

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  60. #60 |  The Agitator » Blog Archive » Robbie Tolan on Real Sports | 

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