Loved your rebuttal. Guess you forfeit.

Quitter.

I’m curious as to why your “Broke ass Civic” Is somehow superior to whatever I drive. If it wasn’t. you wouldn’t have pointed it out, hmm?

As for “Cynical in CA”

“First, it’s ok that you have a small penis.”

I actually do have a fairly small penis. I have no idea how you know that, but it really doesn’t matter.

The rest of your crap is just stupid. How about driving more safely instead? Hmm?

“Let me get this straight. When you BLOW THROUGH A RED LIGHT you put your hand over your face so the camera can’t nab you? For the love of god, I hope I don’t ever have to drive anywhere near you. You guys crack me up.”

First, it’s ok that you have a small penis.

Second, it has been proved that many municipalities contract with private red-light camera companies working under a profit motive, so there is incentive to generate as much revenue as possible. This leads to nasty little tactics like 3-second yellow lights and camera “malfunctions” where a picture is taken even if you weren’t in the intersection.

Nowhere in my post did I admit that I run red lights. If a yellow light is only 3 seconds in duration, it is practically impossible to stop in time. Stopping short can be just as dangerous as running the light, as you might get rear-ended. Very dangerous if you’re driving a Ford Pinto.

And in one of the classic examples of perverse incentives, drivers are now being trained to slam on their brakes when the light turns yellow, causing more accidents than if they proceeded through the red light.

BTW, going through a red light is not dangerous per se — it depends on how long the light has been red. Less than one second, no big deal. The other light isn’t even green yet. No oncoming traffic, no big deal.

Just to bring it on home to libertarianism, Bob, red-light and speeding cameras remove individual judgment from the equation. No matter how f’ed up people may be, taking away their judgment can only make it worse.

Please do a better job of thinking next time, Bob.

Let me get this straight. When you BLOW THROUGH A RED LIGHT you put your hand over your face so the camera can’t nab you?

Fuck! Can you read or are you willfully obtuse?

Try again:

I leave a little gap between my fingers so I can still see.

Fail > Bob

I don’t dispute the adverse health effects of smoking, but it’s a person’s choice to do that to themselves. I completely dispute anyone’s claims to protect someone from their self.

Finally, by way of analogy, the National Cancer Institute published a study that women using Listerine (and other mouthwashes with 25%+ ABV) had a 90% higher risk of cancer than those who did not, and men a 60% risk. But what did the institute conclude? They said the findings “do not firmly establish the risk.” Cf. the second hand smokescreen.

> http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE6DC133EF930A15757C0A967958260

It’s a nuisance, but tough shit.

Screw you. Get the hell out of here and don’t come back until you have two braincells to rub together. You and your collectivist hive mind need to evolve to the point where you are capable of rational thought.

Your final point is so full of shit that only select members of congress could shovel it all.

Physics > Bob

Let me get this straight. When you BLOW THROUGH A RED LIGHT you put your hand over your face so the camera can’t nab you? For the love of god, I hope I don’t ever have to drive anywhere near you.

You guys crack me up.

Why don’t you… Oh, I don’t know… just not speed or run red lights?

Oh wait, that would be safe. And that, apparently, isn’t the libertarian way.

Personally? I haven’t gotten a speeding ticket in 30 years. Here in Fairfax, we have Camera Intersections all over… and yet! I fail to get tickets.

Why is that? Oh! It’s because I don’t speed or run red lights.

And yet… I still get to my destination no slower than you. Hmm.

http://www.salon.com/mwt/broadsheet/2009/01/05/chemo_dosage_obese_women/index.html

The joys of statistical homeopathy (the more remote the causality, the more powerful the presumed causitive agent)

When I drive through a camera intersection, I put my hand in front of my face, including my eyes. I leave a little gap between my fingers so I can still see.

A while back, I even sprayed a reflective substance on my rear plate, but that fades too quickly and leaves ugly yellow stains.

There could be no end to the various methods one can use to thwart cameras, yet the State is raking in the dough.

Sheeple.

Or just wear a mask.

But I guess thats better than being around someone who just needs to take a fucking bath.

I wish some asswipe group would do a study on the harmful effects of breathing in the stench from a deep fat fryer that permeates everything in the entire building!

No that crap stinks! Sends my brain into full retreat mode it does!