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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If these clowns want their funding, maybe they should learn what a real meth lab looks like first.

http://io9.com/5119166/teen-with-home-chemistry-lab-arrested-for-meth-bombs

&quot;A Canadian college student majoring in chemistry built himself a home lab - and discovered that trying to do science in your own home quickly leads to accusations of drug-making and terrorism.&quot;

Pretty soon it won&#039;t be Shotgun News that&#039;s declared a &quot;subversive publication&quot; but the CFC Handbook.

In other news, the city of Chesapeake is engaging in standard harassment tactics against a family who dares to stand up to their power.  It will be used as evidence in the eventual lawsuit against the city.  If it were me, I&#039;d also be going after Shiver&#039;s family for the survivor&#039;s pension.  He engaged in multiple felonies that resulted in his death -- his family shouldn&#039;t be getting one cent out of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If these clowns want their funding, maybe they should learn what a real meth lab looks like first.</p>
<p><a href="http://io9.com/5119166/teen-with-home-chemistry-lab-arrested-for-meth-bombs" rel="nofollow">http://io9.com/5119166/teen-with-home-chemistry-lab-arrested-for-meth-bombs</a></p>
<p>&#8220;A Canadian college student majoring in chemistry built himself a home lab &#8211; and discovered that trying to do science in your own home quickly leads to accusations of drug-making and terrorism.&#8221;</p>
<p>Pretty soon it won&#8217;t be Shotgun News that&#8217;s declared a &#8220;subversive publication&#8221; but the CFC Handbook.</p>
<p>In other news, the city of Chesapeake is engaging in standard harassment tactics against a family who dares to stand up to their power.  It will be used as evidence in the eventual lawsuit against the city.  If it were me, I&#8217;d also be going after Shiver&#8217;s family for the survivor&#8217;s pension.  He engaged in multiple felonies that resulted in his death &#8212; his family shouldn&#8217;t be getting one cent out of this.</p>
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		<title>By: witless chum</title>
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		<dc:creator>witless chum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Campus speech codes are (as far as I can tell) entirely the product of the PC left. See thefire.org.&quot;

And conservative Christian colleges have the right-wing equivalents. No holding hands, no dancing, no drinking, no sex before marriage and such certainly seem like more of an affront to personal freedom than banning whatever campus speech codes ban. (I went to Michigan State, where I never came across the existence of such things.) 

And right-wingers biggest PC nostrum is Christianity, or anything a Christian says that they attribute to the bible. 

Israel is another one, though that may have almost as many adherents on the leftish side as the rightish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Campus speech codes are (as far as I can tell) entirely the product of the PC left. See thefire.org.&#8221;</p>
<p>And conservative Christian colleges have the right-wing equivalents. No holding hands, no dancing, no drinking, no sex before marriage and such certainly seem like more of an affront to personal freedom than banning whatever campus speech codes ban. (I went to Michigan State, where I never came across the existence of such things.) </p>
<p>And right-wingers biggest PC nostrum is Christianity, or anything a Christian says that they attribute to the bible. </p>
<p>Israel is another one, though that may have almost as many adherents on the leftish side as the rightish.</p>
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		<title>By: chance</title>
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		<dc:creator>chance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Those over the age of ,say, 30, may recall when it was the right that was most loudly objecting to police excesses.&quot;

Hypothesis 1: There is no significant partisan difference in overall attitudes towards law enforcement.  Extremes partisans on both sides object to police excess, albeit for different reasons.  

Hypothesis 2.  With exception to its more extreme practicioners, the right is more accepting of police excesses than the left.  

Hypothesis 3.  With exception to its more extreme practicioners, the left is more accepting of police excesses than the right.  

Law #1: I&#039;m too lazy to actually do any rigorous research on the topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Those over the age of ,say, 30, may recall when it was the right that was most loudly objecting to police excesses.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hypothesis 1: There is no significant partisan difference in overall attitudes towards law enforcement.  Extremes partisans on both sides object to police excess, albeit for different reasons.  </p>
<p>Hypothesis 2.  With exception to its more extreme practicioners, the right is more accepting of police excesses than the left.  </p>
<p>Hypothesis 3.  With exception to its more extreme practicioners, the left is more accepting of police excesses than the right.  </p>
<p>Law #1: I&#8217;m too lazy to actually do any rigorous research on the topic.</p>
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		<title>By: icr</title>
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		<dc:creator>icr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those   over the age of ,say, 30,  may recall when it was the right that was most loudly objecting to police excesses. Those who don&#039;t know what I&#039;m talking about should google &quot;ruby ridge&quot; and &quot;branch davidians&quot;. 

Rightist &quot;Patriot Movement&quot; Constitutionalists like that are still around. For some  examples see republicbroadcasting.org. These people, odd as they sometimes are, are also anti-warfare state like the paleocons at places like Chronicles, Takimag and TAC. 

&gt;&gt;Now, to be clear, I don’t necessarily have a problem with using less offensive language or even avoiding certain subjects; that used to just be called “tact”.&gt;&gt;

Oh yes, &quot;tact&quot; (aka civility) is most certainly one of the hallmarks of the current era.  

P.S. I don&#039;t think anyone is losing his/her job, deprived of civil rights or jailed for making Truther claims about Sarah Palin&#039;s pregnancy. The most extreme examples of leftist PC oppression occur in Europe, but it does exist in the US, see: http://www.thefire.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those   over the age of ,say, 30,  may recall when it was the right that was most loudly objecting to police excesses. Those who don&#8217;t know what I&#8217;m talking about should google &#8220;ruby ridge&#8221; and &#8220;branch davidians&#8221;. </p>
<p>Rightist &#8220;Patriot Movement&#8221; Constitutionalists like that are still around. For some  examples see republicbroadcasting.org. These people, odd as they sometimes are, are also anti-warfare state like the paleocons at places like Chronicles, Takimag and TAC. </p>
<p>&gt;&gt;Now, to be clear, I don’t necessarily have a problem with using less offensive language or even avoiding certain subjects; that used to just be called “tact”.&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Oh yes, &#8220;tact&#8221; (aka civility) is most certainly one of the hallmarks of the current era.  </p>
<p>P.S. I don&#8217;t think anyone is losing his/her job, deprived of civil rights or jailed for making Truther claims about Sarah Palin&#8217;s pregnancy. The most extreme examples of leftist PC oppression occur in Europe, but it does exist in the US, see: <a href="http://www.thefire.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.thefire.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what happens when Republicans try to be funny. Oh, and they forgot the bonus track: John McCain&#039;s version of &quot;Bomb Iran.&quot;

Morons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what happens when Republicans try to be funny. Oh, and they forgot the bonus track: John McCain&#8217;s version of &#8220;Bomb Iran.&#8221;</p>
<p>Morons.</p>
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		<title>By: chance</title>
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		<dc:creator>chance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 14:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;There are plenty of right wing “PC” topics that you bring up at your own risk.&lt;&lt;

&quot;You should provide some examples of what you’re talking about.&quot;

So we&#039;re on the same sheet, I use the wikipedia definition of PC: &lt;i&gt;Political correctness (adjectivally, politically correct; both forms commonly abbreviated to PC) is a term applied to language, ideas, policies, or behavior seen as seeking to minimize offense to gender, racial, cultural, disabled, aged or other identity groups. Conversely, the term &quot;politically incorrect&quot; is used to refer to language or ideas that may cause offense or that are unconstrained by orthodoxy.&lt;/i&gt;

One example: criticising the military in any significant way without first caveating your statements on how this criticism is directed at only a few bad apples, and in no way reflects on the heroism (nay, superheroism) of the vast majority of service members.  In this example, the military is an identity group, and the language is clearly meant to minimize offense.  This right may not be the only ones who would call someone out for this, but in my experience they usually are the first and the loudest.  

Another example tends to be similiar to the example above, but towards police rather than military.  Many of the links on this site go to news stories where the commentators are loathe to criticise the police, and caveat any critiques with more wrods about bad apples and heroics (another identity group, another use of minimizing language).

I would also argue that during the 08 presidential campaign, many of Govenor Palin&#039;s supporters attempted to make many issues politically incorrect to discuss (e.g. daughter&#039;s pregnancy).  I will grant you they were not always fully sucessful in the attempt, but they weren&#039;t complete failures either.

I&#039;m sure others can come up with other examples.  Now, to be clear, I don&#039;t necessarily have a problem with using less offensive language or even avoiding certain subjects; that used to just be called &quot;tact&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;There are plenty of right wing “PC” topics that you bring up at your own risk.&lt;&lt;</p>
<p>&#8220;You should provide some examples of what you’re talking about.&#8221;</p>
<p>So we&#8217;re on the same sheet, I use the wikipedia definition of PC: <i>Political correctness (adjectivally, politically correct; both forms commonly abbreviated to PC) is a term applied to language, ideas, policies, or behavior seen as seeking to minimize offense to gender, racial, cultural, disabled, aged or other identity groups. Conversely, the term &#8220;politically incorrect&#8221; is used to refer to language or ideas that may cause offense or that are unconstrained by orthodoxy.</i></p>
<p>One example: criticising the military in any significant way without first caveating your statements on how this criticism is directed at only a few bad apples, and in no way reflects on the heroism (nay, superheroism) of the vast majority of service members.  In this example, the military is an identity group, and the language is clearly meant to minimize offense.  This right may not be the only ones who would call someone out for this, but in my experience they usually are the first and the loudest.  </p>
<p>Another example tends to be similiar to the example above, but towards police rather than military.  Many of the links on this site go to news stories where the commentators are loathe to criticise the police, and caveat any critiques with more wrods about bad apples and heroics (another identity group, another use of minimizing language).</p>
<p>I would also argue that during the 08 presidential campaign, many of Govenor Palin&#8217;s supporters attempted to make many issues politically incorrect to discuss (e.g. daughter&#8217;s pregnancy).  I will grant you they were not always fully sucessful in the attempt, but they weren&#8217;t complete failures either.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure others can come up with other examples.  Now, to be clear, I don&#8217;t necessarily have a problem with using less offensive language or even avoiding certain subjects; that used to just be called &#8220;tact&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Stormy Dragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stormy Dragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t Barack more of a &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlackBestFriend&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Black Best Friend&lt;/A&gt; than a &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MagicalNegro&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Magical Negro&lt;/A&gt; anyways?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t Barack more of a <a HREF="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlackBestFriend" rel="nofollow">Black Best Friend</a> than a <a HREF="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MagicalNegro" rel="nofollow">Magical Negro</a> anyways?</p>
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		<title>By: dead_elvis</title>
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		<dc:creator>dead_elvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The signs were too large, and at least one of them was just propped up against a tree, he said.

&quot;If we had a good storm, they may have gone sailing down the street,&quot; he said.&quot;

My word, someone might have actually been bruised!  Oh the horror!

&quot;Aside from the code violation, the signs had become distracting for the community, Johnson said. Television news crews stopped by frequently with their trucks. The signs were a &quot;constant reminder that that&#039;s where the police officer was killed,&quot; he said.&quot;

Exactly the point.  When something like that happens, the community *should* be distracted.  Distracted to the point of agitating for a change.  A guy is killed, another&#039;s life is likely ruined, but they want everyone to just go on like nothing happened?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The signs were too large, and at least one of them was just propped up against a tree, he said.</p>
<p>&#8220;If we had a good storm, they may have gone sailing down the street,&#8221; he said.&#8221;</p>
<p>My word, someone might have actually been bruised!  Oh the horror!</p>
<p>&#8220;Aside from the code violation, the signs had become distracting for the community, Johnson said. Television news crews stopped by frequently with their trucks. The signs were a &#8220;constant reminder that that&#8217;s where the police officer was killed,&#8221; he said.&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly the point.  When something like that happens, the community *should* be distracted.  Distracted to the point of agitating for a change.  A guy is killed, another&#8217;s life is likely ruined, but they want everyone to just go on like nothing happened?</p>
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		<title>By: Toy Soldiers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toy Soldiers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just curious, when did commenting become moderated?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just curious, when did commenting become moderated?</p>
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		<title>By: Toy Soldiers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toy Soldiers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did anyone else read the &#039;Missouri Meth-Lab Eradication Funding Crisis&quot; article?

&quot;It doesn&#039;t do any good to have all the toys if you don&#039;t have anyone to play with them,&quot; said Detective Sgt. Jason Grellner, commander of the Franklin County Narcotics Enforcement Unit. Yeah, and &quot;it&#039;s all a game, until somebody gets hurt,&quot; right? I&#039;ll bet Grellner gets &quot;exemplary performance&quot; rewards all the time, as he takes his job so seriously. 

To me, that&#039;s pretty telling of law enforcements&#039; attitude. It&#039;s why people like Ryan Frederick end up in jail by corrupt cops, and why cops like Jared Shivers end up dead with families left behind to mourn.

May as well just give them the money so they can hire some more toy soldiers, after all &quot;We&#039;ll be all right. We&#039;ll survive...We plan to apply to use federal forfeiture funds to supplement that one position&#039;s salary for a year.&quot; 




&quot;We plan to apply to use federal forfeiture funds to supplement that one position&#039;s salary for a year.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone else read the &#8216;Missouri Meth-Lab Eradication Funding Crisis&#8221; article?</p>
<p>&#8220;It doesn&#8217;t do any good to have all the toys if you don&#8217;t have anyone to play with them,&#8221; said Detective Sgt. Jason Grellner, commander of the Franklin County Narcotics Enforcement Unit. Yeah, and &#8220;it&#8217;s all a game, until somebody gets hurt,&#8221; right? I&#8217;ll bet Grellner gets &#8220;exemplary performance&#8221; rewards all the time, as he takes his job so seriously. </p>
<p>To me, that&#8217;s pretty telling of law enforcements&#8217; attitude. It&#8217;s why people like Ryan Frederick end up in jail by corrupt cops, and why cops like Jared Shivers end up dead with families left behind to mourn.</p>
<p>May as well just give them the money so they can hire some more toy soldiers, after all &#8220;We&#8217;ll be all right. We&#8217;ll survive&#8230;We plan to apply to use federal forfeiture funds to supplement that one position&#8217;s salary for a year.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;We plan to apply to use federal forfeiture funds to supplement that one position&#8217;s salary for a year.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Oregon Commentator &#187; Blog Archive &#187; City Tries to Put Kaibosh on Giant Snowman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oregon Commentator &#187; Blog Archive &#187; City Tries to Put Kaibosh on Giant Snowman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hat tip to the Agitator. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: MP</title>
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		<dc:creator>MP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are there other localities that limit seasonal displays?  I&#039;ve seen many private Christmas light displays, Halloween displays, etc. that are large enough to attract swarms of gawkers.  And I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if that irritates some of the grinch neighbors (as it would me...being a grinch myself).  But none of these localities in my home state have ever tried (to my knowledge) to limit/ban them on police power principles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there other localities that limit seasonal displays?  I&#8217;ve seen many private Christmas light displays, Halloween displays, etc. that are large enough to attract swarms of gawkers.  And I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if that irritates some of the grinch neighbors (as it would me&#8230;being a grinch myself).  But none of these localities in my home state have ever tried (to my knowledge) to limit/ban them on police power principles.</p>
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		<title>By: icr</title>
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		<dc:creator>icr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brutal police attack on right nationalist group http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4AKvyf2WYw  Overall view Gottfried: http://www.lewrockwell.com/gottfried/gottfried35.html
&quot;...There are two arguments made in my book that should interest readers of this website. One, I refuse to treat political correctness as an academic eccentricity and present it instead as a tool of managerial control. Universities are not the only context in which pc and its accompanying mantra about diversity have taken over. Churches, corporations, and the media push the same partylines, but without government interventions we would not be worrying about the legal consequences of not paying sufficient respect to state-designated victims. This fact is so obvious that one has to speculate on the reasons it is ignored – particularly on what today passes for the Right. ...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brutal police attack on right nationalist group <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4AKvyf2WYw" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4AKvyf2WYw</a>  Overall view Gottfried: <a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/gottfried/gottfried35.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lewrockwell.com/gottfried/gottfried35.html</a><br />
&#8220;&#8230;There are two arguments made in my book that should interest readers of this website. One, I refuse to treat political correctness as an academic eccentricity and present it instead as a tool of managerial control. Universities are not the only context in which pc and its accompanying mantra about diversity have taken over. Churches, corporations, and the media push the same partylines, but without government interventions we would not be worrying about the legal consequences of not paying sufficient respect to state-designated victims. This fact is so obvious that one has to speculate on the reasons it is ignored – particularly on what today passes for the Right. &#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: icr</title>
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		<dc:creator>icr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PC is an entirely leftist construct that is inherently repressive. 
See http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2008/10/aftermath-of-cologne.html, http://www.vdare.com/roberts/worry.htm, http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2008/10/aftermath-of-cologne.html.


Campus speech codes are (as far as I can tell) entirely the product of the PC left. See thefire.org.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PC is an entirely leftist construct that is inherently repressive.<br />
See <a href="http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2008/10/aftermath-of-cologne.html" rel="nofollow">http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2008/10/aftermath-of-cologne.html</a>, <a href="http://www.vdare.com/roberts/worry.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.vdare.com/roberts/worry.htm</a>, <a href="http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2008/10/aftermath-of-cologne.html" rel="nofollow">http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2008/10/aftermath-of-cologne.html</a>.</p>
<p>Campus speech codes are (as far as I can tell) entirely the product of the PC left. See thefire.org.</p>
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		<title>By: icr</title>
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		<dc:creator>icr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Do we see a lot of discussion by politicians of Christianity and its merits? Of course not; Republicans have made sure that nothing about the religion can ever be criticized by elected officials lest they be painted as anti-religious zealots. Political Correctness is practiced by both sides, and anybody pretending otherwise has their head firmly planted in the sand.
(See also: criticism of the police, criticism of the military, criticism of war, criticism of particular Presidents, criticism of 9/11, etc.)&gt;&gt;

Yeah, we could start by discussing the merits of the Rev. Martin Luther King. 


Is anyone really getting into trouble at school or work for criticizing the war, Bush, the police, the warfare state, etc. 
Maybe, but not too often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Do we see a lot of discussion by politicians of Christianity and its merits? Of course not; Republicans have made sure that nothing about the religion can ever be criticized by elected officials lest they be painted as anti-religious zealots. Political Correctness is practiced by both sides, and anybody pretending otherwise has their head firmly planted in the sand.<br />
(See also: criticism of the police, criticism of the military, criticism of war, criticism of particular Presidents, criticism of 9/11, etc.)&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Yeah, we could start by discussing the merits of the Rev. Martin Luther King. </p>
<p>Is anyone really getting into trouble at school or work for criticizing the war, Bush, the police, the warfare state, etc.<br />
Maybe, but not too often.</p>
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		<title>By: claude</title>
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		<dc:creator>claude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im really not interested in reading the lyrics to anything that has the title &quot;Barack the Magic Negro&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im really not interested in reading the lyrics to anything that has the title &#8220;Barack the Magic Negro&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: tesla</title>
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		<dc:creator>tesla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Call me callous but &quot;Barack the Magic Negro&quot; just doesn&#039;t seem offensive.  For starters the song was written well before the election (in 2007) and it wasn&#039;t meant to be a protest of political correctness.  If you listen to the lyrics it&#039;s a criticism of guilty white liberals mesmerized by a guy with a meager resume.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call me callous but &#8220;Barack the Magic Negro&#8221; just doesn&#8217;t seem offensive.  For starters the song was written well before the election (in 2007) and it wasn&#8217;t meant to be a protest of political correctness.  If you listen to the lyrics it&#8217;s a criticism of guilty white liberals mesmerized by a guy with a meager resume.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ICR,

Do we see a lot of discussion by politicians of Christianity and its merits? Of course not; Republicans have made sure that nothing about the religion can ever be criticized by elected officials lest they be painted as anti-religious zealots. Political Correctness is practiced by both sides, and anybody pretending otherwise has their head firmly planted in the sand.

(See also: criticism of the police, criticism of the military, criticism of war, criticism of particular Presidents, criticism of 9/11, etc.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ICR,</p>
<p>Do we see a lot of discussion by politicians of Christianity and its merits? Of course not; Republicans have made sure that nothing about the religion can ever be criticized by elected officials lest they be painted as anti-religious zealots. Political Correctness is practiced by both sides, and anybody pretending otherwise has their head firmly planted in the sand.</p>
<p>(See also: criticism of the police, criticism of the military, criticism of war, criticism of particular Presidents, criticism of 9/11, etc.)</p>
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		<title>By: Highway</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/29/monday-morning-links-2/comment-page-1/#comment-223917</link>
		<dc:creator>Highway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MacK, the problem is that the things you say ALL have externalities that are acknowledged by and caused by you.  If you put up a strobe light that keeps other people up, you have exposure to damages from other people who are on their property: they don&#039;t have to come onto your property to be damaged by you.  If you keep hazardous materials and heavy metals (old cars) on your property, you have a good chance of contaminating ground water, again causing damages on other people&#039;s properties.  Your continual visitors have the same public hazards, as well as monopolizing areas that are not on your property (parking on public streets in front of other houses), which are actionable by the city.  None of these are merely &#039;quiet enjoyment of your property&#039;.

Now, the guy making a 25-foot snowman is doing it for notoriety.  And he enjoys having people come by.  But that is causing a public nuisance.  That&#039;s where SusanK&#039;s point falls down.  It stops being a quiet enjoyment of his property when it becomes an attractive nuisance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MacK, the problem is that the things you say ALL have externalities that are acknowledged by and caused by you.  If you put up a strobe light that keeps other people up, you have exposure to damages from other people who are on their property: they don&#8217;t have to come onto your property to be damaged by you.  If you keep hazardous materials and heavy metals (old cars) on your property, you have a good chance of contaminating ground water, again causing damages on other people&#8217;s properties.  Your continual visitors have the same public hazards, as well as monopolizing areas that are not on your property (parking on public streets in front of other houses), which are actionable by the city.  None of these are merely &#8216;quiet enjoyment of your property&#8217;.</p>
<p>Now, the guy making a 25-foot snowman is doing it for notoriety.  And he enjoys having people come by.  But that is causing a public nuisance.  That&#8217;s where SusanK&#8217;s point falls down.  It stops being a quiet enjoyment of his property when it becomes an attractive nuisance.</p>
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		<title>By: icr</title>
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		<dc:creator>icr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;There are plenty of right wing “PC” topics that you bring up at your own risk.&lt;&lt;

You should provide some examples of what you&#039;re talking about. Is maybe attacking the holiness of the Super Bowl a left-wing &quot;anti-PC&quot; position?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;There are plenty of right wing “PC” topics that you bring up at your own risk.&lt;&lt;</p>
<p>You should provide some examples of what you&#8217;re talking about. Is maybe attacking the holiness of the Super Bowl a left-wing &#8220;anti-PC&#8221; position?</p>
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