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		<title>By: Tokin42</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/23/chrysler-thanks-suckers/comment-page-1/#comment-222210</link>
		<dc:creator>Tokin42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 04:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HA, wrong thread, I am such a tool....</description>
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		<title>By: Tokin42</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/23/chrysler-thanks-suckers/comment-page-1/#comment-222209</link>
		<dc:creator>Tokin42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 04:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last month police tore down a section of privacy fence in my folks back yard looking for a guy who had stabbed someone in a nearby neighborhood.  6 cops and what looked like a dutch shepherd came crashing through and ran into my folks dog, a very high energy 2 yr old australian shepherd.  He&#039; a great dog but his desire to play overrules everything with him.  He&#039;s barely out of his pup stage and he thinks every dog he meets wants to run and roughhouse.  They have a pretty large yard and he came running at them at a dead run for awhile so they had a chance to think about it.  He went right for their dog and stopped ready to play.  My dad said the officers dog seemed up to playing but the other cops were kinda busy.  30 seconds later when my dad made it outside the cops were trying to keep the two dogs separated.  They asked him if he would bite and then politely asked him to take the dog inside while they worked.  

When dad called to tell me that the cops broke down his fence the first thought I had was they shot my folks dog.  How sad is it that a situation like this where cops DON&#039;T shoot the dog is an incredible story?  Cop shoots dog stories are so frequent that I felt compelled to send a letter of thanks for the officers using good judgment when they were already obviously amped up a bit. Until people start paying attention to this and making their voices heard on the local level this is not going to stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last month police tore down a section of privacy fence in my folks back yard looking for a guy who had stabbed someone in a nearby neighborhood.  6 cops and what looked like a dutch shepherd came crashing through and ran into my folks dog, a very high energy 2 yr old australian shepherd.  He&#8217; a great dog but his desire to play overrules everything with him.  He&#8217;s barely out of his pup stage and he thinks every dog he meets wants to run and roughhouse.  They have a pretty large yard and he came running at them at a dead run for awhile so they had a chance to think about it.  He went right for their dog and stopped ready to play.  My dad said the officers dog seemed up to playing but the other cops were kinda busy.  30 seconds later when my dad made it outside the cops were trying to keep the two dogs separated.  They asked him if he would bite and then politely asked him to take the dog inside while they worked.  </p>
<p>When dad called to tell me that the cops broke down his fence the first thought I had was they shot my folks dog.  How sad is it that a situation like this where cops DON&#8217;T shoot the dog is an incredible story?  Cop shoots dog stories are so frequent that I felt compelled to send a letter of thanks for the officers using good judgment when they were already obviously amped up a bit. Until people start paying attention to this and making their voices heard on the local level this is not going to stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Comrade Dread</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/23/chrysler-thanks-suckers/comment-page-1/#comment-222001</link>
		<dc:creator>Comrade Dread</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I blame Aaron Burr. For not shooting Hamilton 30 years sooner.</description>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/23/chrysler-thanks-suckers/comment-page-1/#comment-221955</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;People are starting to get angry. It may take some time for fat, lazy America to get off its’ ass, but there could be some demonstrations in early 2009. Next couple of years may be interesting.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You aren&#039;t the only one that is thinking this.  Queue the basing of troops within the US to... help out in case of terrorist attacks or other national emergencies.  Oh yeah and to quell civil disorder.

I make a prediction that within the next four years, martial law will be declared somewhere within the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>People are starting to get angry. It may take some time for fat, lazy America to get off its’ ass, but there could be some demonstrations in early 2009. Next couple of years may be interesting.</p></blockquote>
<p>You aren&#8217;t the only one that is thinking this.  Queue the basing of troops within the US to&#8230; help out in case of terrorist attacks or other national emergencies.  Oh yeah and to quell civil disorder.</p>
<p>I make a prediction that within the next four years, martial law will be declared somewhere within the US.</p>
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		<title>By: KBCraig</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/23/chrysler-thanks-suckers/comment-page-1/#comment-221850</link>
		<dc:creator>KBCraig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 06:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.&quot;
-- James Madison, who &lt;b&gt;wrote&lt;/b&gt; that &quot;G** D***** piece of paper&quot;

Or, as recorded in the Annals of Congress in 1794:
&quot;Mr. Madison wished to relieve the sufferers, but was afraid of establishing a dangerous precedent, which might hereafter be perverted to the countenance of purposes very different from those of charity. He acknowledged, for his own part, that he could not undertake to lay his finger on that article in the Federal Constitution which granted a right of Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.&quot;

Dangerous precedent, indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; James Madison, who <b>wrote</b> that &#8220;G** D***** piece of paper&#8221;</p>
<p>Or, as recorded in the Annals of Congress in 1794:<br />
&#8220;Mr. Madison wished to relieve the sufferers, but was afraid of establishing a dangerous precedent, which might hereafter be perverted to the countenance of purposes very different from those of charity. He acknowledged, for his own part, that he could not undertake to lay his finger on that article in the Federal Constitution which granted a right of Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dangerous precedent, indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Gogulski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Gogulski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 06:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Cynical: &quot;Stateless wonder&quot;... gotta get me a T-shirt with that on it :) Cheers!</description>
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		<title>By: Cynical In CA</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/23/chrysler-thanks-suckers/comment-page-1/#comment-221835</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynical In CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 03:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#27 &#124;  jakeJohnson &#124;  December 23rd, 2008 at 10:09 pm 
yep, cause our economy is in perfect shape right now to handle ~3 million or so jobs lost from the big 3 tanking. You libertarians are kinda funny, blaming the government for everything. Such an easy scapegoat.

Last time I checked, the truth was a valid defense, Jake.

You statists are kinda funny, exonerating the government for everything.  Such an easy idol.

Those 3 million jobs are a waste of labor resources.  The U.S. auto industry is a complete misallocation of resources propped up by the fraud of the finance industry for at least the last 20 years.  The automakers need to be forced into bankruptcy so the capital and labor can be reallocated to productive uses instead of having more money thrown down a black hole, assuming that there is a demand for 3 million new jobs in ANY industry in the world now.

The State, via its muscle the government, has created a bubble in PEOPLE.  There are simply too many people on Earth to be provided for in the manner in which humans would like to live.  The American way of life since at least 1971 has been a complete fraud -- embezzlement from future generations who are not even alive to scrutinize the books or defend themselves.

It would be fantastically amusing, your bemoaning the loss of 3 million useless jobs, if it weren&#039;t so ominous what the near future portends as a result of the evil machinations of the State and its dominion over all individuals.

Your self-interest would be better served by educating yourself and others as to the logic and sense of libertarianism (or my favorite strand free-market anarchism) than clinging to the obsolete and incredibly dangerous delusions of statist ideology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#27 |  jakeJohnson |  December 23rd, 2008 at 10:09 pm<br />
yep, cause our economy is in perfect shape right now to handle ~3 million or so jobs lost from the big 3 tanking. You libertarians are kinda funny, blaming the government for everything. Such an easy scapegoat.</p>
<p>Last time I checked, the truth was a valid defense, Jake.</p>
<p>You statists are kinda funny, exonerating the government for everything.  Such an easy idol.</p>
<p>Those 3 million jobs are a waste of labor resources.  The U.S. auto industry is a complete misallocation of resources propped up by the fraud of the finance industry for at least the last 20 years.  The automakers need to be forced into bankruptcy so the capital and labor can be reallocated to productive uses instead of having more money thrown down a black hole, assuming that there is a demand for 3 million new jobs in ANY industry in the world now.</p>
<p>The State, via its muscle the government, has created a bubble in PEOPLE.  There are simply too many people on Earth to be provided for in the manner in which humans would like to live.  The American way of life since at least 1971 has been a complete fraud &#8212; embezzlement from future generations who are not even alive to scrutinize the books or defend themselves.</p>
<p>It would be fantastically amusing, your bemoaning the loss of 3 million useless jobs, if it weren&#8217;t so ominous what the near future portends as a result of the evil machinations of the State and its dominion over all individuals.</p>
<p>Your self-interest would be better served by educating yourself and others as to the logic and sense of libertarianism (or my favorite strand free-market anarchism) than clinging to the obsolete and incredibly dangerous delusions of statist ideology.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/23/chrysler-thanks-suckers/comment-page-1/#comment-221828</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jakejohnson:
&quot;You libertarians are kinda funny, blaming the government for everything.&quot;

Who here mentioned blaming government for everything, except you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jakejohnson:<br />
&#8220;You libertarians are kinda funny, blaming the government for everything.&#8221;</p>
<p>Who here mentioned blaming government for everything, except you?</p>
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		<title>By: Cynical In CA</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/23/chrysler-thanks-suckers/comment-page-1/#comment-221823</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynical In CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, the stateless wonder makes a personal appearance!  Good luck in your new status Mike, you&#039;re a brave person.</description>
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		<title>By: billy-jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>billy-jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comments on this post have made my day a little brighter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comments on this post have made my day a little brighter.</p>
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		<title>By: jakeJohnson</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/23/chrysler-thanks-suckers/comment-page-1/#comment-221808</link>
		<dc:creator>jakeJohnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 02:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yep, cause our economy is in perfect shape right now to handle ~3 million or so jobs lost from the big 3 tanking.  You libertarians are kinda funny, blaming the government for everything.  Such an easy scapegoat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yep, cause our economy is in perfect shape right now to handle ~3 million or so jobs lost from the big 3 tanking.  You libertarians are kinda funny, blaming the government for everything.  Such an easy scapegoat.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/23/chrysler-thanks-suckers/comment-page-1/#comment-221776</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thomasblair:
&quot;It’s just that I’m not willing to subject myself and my family to the violence that inevitably follows.&quot;


Billy Beck, years ago:
...&quot;they use the things we love -- families, careers, possessions, etc. -- against us. This is the fundamental principle on which it all works.&quot; 
http://www.two--four.net/weblog.php?id=P1202


Our entire lives are being held for ransom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thomasblair:<br />
&#8220;It’s just that I’m not willing to subject myself and my family to the violence that inevitably follows.&#8221;</p>
<p>Billy Beck, years ago:<br />
&#8230;&#8221;they use the things we love &#8212; families, careers, possessions, etc. &#8212; against us. This is the fundamental principle on which it all works.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.two--four.net/weblog.php?id=P1202" rel="nofollow">http://www.two&#8211;four.net/weblog.php?id=P1202</a></p>
<p>Our entire lives are being held for ransom.</p>
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		<title>By: pam</title>
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		<dc:creator>pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there were no comments on the &quot;give Chrysler a piece of your mind&quot; link. I wonder if none of them passed inspection</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there were no comments on the &#8220;give Chrysler a piece of your mind&#8221; link. I wonder if none of them passed inspection</p>
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		<title>By: supercat</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/23/chrysler-thanks-suckers/comment-page-1/#comment-221764</link>
		<dc:creator>supercat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The automakers in trouble because they promised the unions a supply of pension revenues that their sales were insufficient to supply.  The only way the automakers can regain solvency is to abrogate those promises.  The effect of the bailout is to make taxpayers supply the money that the automakers promised to supply but were unable to do so.  I see no moral justification for such a thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The automakers in trouble because they promised the unions a supply of pension revenues that their sales were insufficient to supply.  The only way the automakers can regain solvency is to abrogate those promises.  The effect of the bailout is to make taxpayers supply the money that the automakers promised to supply but were unable to do so.  I see no moral justification for such a thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let Chrysler have a piece  of your mind...here:
http://blog.chryslerllc.com/comment.do

http://rightklik.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let Chrysler have a piece  of your mind&#8230;here:<br />
<a href="http://blog.chryslerllc.com/comment.do" rel="nofollow">http://blog.chryslerllc.com/comment.do</a></p>
<p><a href="http://rightklik.net" rel="nofollow">http://rightklik.net</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/23/chrysler-thanks-suckers/comment-page-1/#comment-221761</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Chrysler!
You&#039;re not welcome.
http://rightklik.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Chrysler!<br />
You&#8217;re not welcome.<br />
<a href="http://rightklik.net" rel="nofollow">http://rightklik.net</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Gogulski</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/23/chrysler-thanks-suckers/comment-page-1/#comment-221759</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Gogulski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cynical in CA and Mattocracy: you&#039;re both on my watchlist. Now be good! :)</description>
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		<title>By: Mattocracy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/23/chrysler-thanks-suckers/comment-page-1/#comment-221754</link>
		<dc:creator>Mattocracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to see that someone else reads nostate.com.  Now I know Cynical and I are on the same watch list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to see that someone else reads nostate.com.  Now I know Cynical and I are on the same watch list.</p>
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		<title>By: Edwin Sheldon</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/23/chrysler-thanks-suckers/comment-page-1/#comment-221753</link>
		<dc:creator>Edwin Sheldon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ #14 &#124;  Cynical In CA:
Exactly.  This bailout is a temporary effort aimed at making Obama deal with this problem because Bush doesn&#039;t feel like it.  He knows Chrysler is likely to fail anyway, but doesn&#039;t care that he has spent billions in taxpayer money (plus much more in the interest on the staggering national debt) so that he doesn&#039;t have to deal with it.  And why &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt; he care?  It&#039;s not like his approval rating can get much lower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ #14 |  Cynical In CA:<br />
Exactly.  This bailout is a temporary effort aimed at making Obama deal with this problem because Bush doesn&#8217;t feel like it.  He knows Chrysler is likely to fail anyway, but doesn&#8217;t care that he has spent billions in taxpayer money (plus much more in the interest on the staggering national debt) so that he doesn&#8217;t have to deal with it.  And why <i>should</i> he care?  It&#8217;s not like his approval rating can get much lower.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that skywriting a thank you message would be more romantic.</description>
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