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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: chsw</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/17/morning-links-119/comment-page-1/#comment-219025</link>
		<dc:creator>chsw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google can have a new slogan - Don&#039;t be evil.  That&#039;s our job.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google can have a new slogan &#8211; Don&#8217;t be evil.  That&#8217;s our job.</p>
<p>chsw</p>
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		<title>By: Kieffer</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/17/morning-links-119/comment-page-1/#comment-219020</link>
		<dc:creator>Kieffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if Marijuana could ever be pushed so close to extinction by eradication efforts that the EPA would fine or imprison you for removing it from your property, but the DEA would fine or imprison you for preserving it on your property.

Hmmmmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if Marijuana could ever be pushed so close to extinction by eradication efforts that the EPA would fine or imprison you for removing it from your property, but the DEA would fine or imprison you for preserving it on your property.</p>
<p>Hmmmmm.</p>
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		<title>By: KBCraig</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/17/morning-links-119/comment-page-1/#comment-219019</link>
		<dc:creator>KBCraig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A number of my teenage daughter&#039;s gay friends wear &quot;beards&quot;. Some are trying desperately to prove they&#039;re really bisexual, not exclusively gay, and as a result they will sleep with anyone of the opposite sex and brag about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A number of my teenage daughter&#8217;s gay friends wear &#8220;beards&#8221;. Some are trying desperately to prove they&#8217;re really bisexual, not exclusively gay, and as a result they will sleep with anyone of the opposite sex and brag about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Spleen</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/17/morning-links-119/comment-page-1/#comment-218983</link>
		<dc:creator>Spleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is understandable that Google would not want to upset companies purchasing ads from them.  A blanket ban on using others&#039; trademarks in Google advertisements sets a boundary in a clear, concise manner.  I wouldn&#039;t categorize this as &quot;evil.&quot;

Now, if they stopped linking to websites critical of their advertisers, you might have a motto violation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is understandable that Google would not want to upset companies purchasing ads from them.  A blanket ban on using others&#8217; trademarks in Google advertisements sets a boundary in a clear, concise manner.  I wouldn&#8217;t categorize this as &#8220;evil.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, if they stopped linking to websites critical of their advertisers, you might have a motto violation.</p>
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		<title>By: MacGregory</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/17/morning-links-119/comment-page-1/#comment-218914</link>
		<dc:creator>MacGregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marijuana not eradicated? Frankly, I&#039;m shocked. You&#039;d think that stuff just grows wildly or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marijuana not eradicated? Frankly, I&#8217;m shocked. You&#8217;d think that stuff just grows wildly or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/17/morning-links-119/comment-page-1/#comment-218890</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fuck you penguin: I could only hear the voice of Brian Fellows in my head as I read it.  Good stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuck you penguin: I could only hear the voice of Brian Fellows in my head as I read it.  Good stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/17/morning-links-119/comment-page-1/#comment-218882</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This particular ruling is a bit more complicated than &quot;this section overturned&quot;.  The gag results were overturned months ago, but the government unsurprisingly appealed.  This court is backing off from the total ban and requiring some &quot;safeguards&quot; in their use, which are primarily checking with a court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This particular ruling is a bit more complicated than &#8220;this section overturned&#8221;.  The gag results were overturned months ago, but the government unsurprisingly appealed.  This court is backing off from the total ban and requiring some &#8220;safeguards&#8221; in their use, which are primarily checking with a court.</p>
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		<title>By: jwh</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/17/morning-links-119/comment-page-1/#comment-218878</link>
		<dc:creator>jwh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, if you want to start prosecuting all politicians and lobbyists who had any association with Fannie &amp; Freddie, let&#039;s go........that&#039;ll end up a whole lot bloodier on the Dems side of the aisle, I expect.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, if you want to start prosecuting all politicians and lobbyists who had any association with Fannie &amp; Freddie, let&#8217;s go&#8230;&#8230;..that&#8217;ll end up a whole lot bloodier on the Dems side of the aisle, I expect&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always hated those cute animal posters....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always hated those cute animal posters&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Kit Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kit Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Lawyers in tough times... if there&#039;s any position you don&#039;t want to be in, I believe that stiffing a bunch of lawyers because you don&#039;t have the money to make payroll on Monday would be among the top.  Do I smell lawsuits?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Lawyers in tough times&#8230; if there&#8217;s any position you don&#8217;t want to be in, I believe that stiffing a bunch of lawyers because you don&#8217;t have the money to make payroll on Monday would be among the top.  Do I smell lawsuits?</p>
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		<title>By: freedomfan</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/17/morning-links-119/comment-page-1/#comment-218810</link>
		<dc:creator>freedomfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vancouversun.com/teens+higher+risk+pregnancy+study/1082366/story.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pregnant teen lesbians&lt;/a&gt;, the article speculates that these higher incidences of pregnancy are signs that the girls are trying to hide their sexuality. That&#039;s probably part of it. 

I would also speculate that it&#039;s largely a contraception issue. A straight girl may be more likely to go on dates knowing she might have some fun with the boy, so she is more likely to want to be on the pill or to bring condoms or other contraception. A gay girl may just be dating for cover and may not really consider that she might decide to actually have sex on her dates until it&#039;s too late. Ditto with the boys. The sex on those dates may be more likely to be a last-minute decision, with corresponding lack of birth control planning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding <a href="http://www.vancouversun.com/teens+higher+risk+pregnancy+study/1082366/story.html" rel="nofollow">pregnant teen lesbians</a>, the article speculates that these higher incidences of pregnancy are signs that the girls are trying to hide their sexuality. That&#8217;s probably part of it. </p>
<p>I would also speculate that it&#8217;s largely a contraception issue. A straight girl may be more likely to go on dates knowing she might have some fun with the boy, so she is more likely to want to be on the pill or to bring condoms or other contraception. A gay girl may just be dating for cover and may not really consider that she might decide to actually have sex on her dates until it&#8217;s too late. Ditto with the boys. The sex on those dates may be more likely to be a last-minute decision, with corresponding lack of birth control planning.</p>
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		<title>By: freedomfan</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/17/morning-links-119/comment-page-1/#comment-218785</link>
		<dc:creator>freedomfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/17/morning-links-119/#comment-218776&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nando&lt;/a&gt;, I don&#039;t dispute Google&#039;s right to decide which ads to carry, but I also think they would serve our and their own interests better by taking a more circumspect view on how much power to give a trademark holder. Google is giving those trademark holders a lot of unnecessary power over Google&#039;s business.

Google doesn&#039;t &lt;em&gt;have&lt;/em&gt; to allow mass banning of ads mentioning a trademark. It could take the same approach that they do on YouTube. To wit, &quot;If you think your trademark is being misused in an ad, then submit a complaint about &lt;em&gt;that ad&lt;/em&gt; and we will evaluate it.&quot; And, in fact, Google would be perfectly within its rights to take a totally opposite stand to their current one. E.g. &quot;If you think your trademark is being infringed by an ad, then show us a court order and we&#039;ll remove the ad.&quot; 

That is definitely not to say that Google should run irresponsible ads that put it in legal jeopardy. But, taking a firmer stand would encourage use of their service and simultaneously discourage hyper-sensitive trademark holders from obtaining sweeping bans on use of names that do &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; violate their trademark rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/17/morning-links-119/#comment-218776" rel="nofollow">Nando</a>, I don&#8217;t dispute Google&#8217;s right to decide which ads to carry, but I also think they would serve our and their own interests better by taking a more circumspect view on how much power to give a trademark holder. Google is giving those trademark holders a lot of unnecessary power over Google&#8217;s business.</p>
<p>Google doesn&#8217;t <em>have</em> to allow mass banning of ads mentioning a trademark. It could take the same approach that they do on YouTube. To wit, &#8220;If you think your trademark is being misused in an ad, then submit a complaint about <em>that ad</em> and we will evaluate it.&#8221; And, in fact, Google would be perfectly within its rights to take a totally opposite stand to their current one. E.g. &#8220;If you think your trademark is being infringed by an ad, then show us a court order and we&#8217;ll remove the ad.&#8221; </p>
<p>That is definitely not to say that Google should run irresponsible ads that put it in legal jeopardy. But, taking a firmer stand would encourage use of their service and simultaneously discourage hyper-sensitive trademark holders from obtaining sweeping bans on use of names that do <em>not</em> violate their trademark rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like that teen pregnancy study may have bigger issues. They are also saying pregnancy is up among gay as well as lesbian teens.

&quot;The survey data did not provide Saewyc with concrete explanations for the heightened risk of pregnancy among gay, lesbian and bisexual youth, but she said there are several possible reasons.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like that teen pregnancy study may have bigger issues. They are also saying pregnancy is up among gay as well as lesbian teens.</p>
<p>&#8220;The survey data did not provide Saewyc with concrete explanations for the heightened risk of pregnancy among gay, lesbian and bisexual youth, but she said there are several possible reasons.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: freedomfan</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/17/morning-links-119/comment-page-1/#comment-218777</link>
		<dc:creator>freedomfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aclu.org/safefree/nsaspying/38113prs20081215.html?s_src=RSS&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the ruling on USA PATRIOT Act National Security Letter gag orders&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;blockquote&gt;The ACLU and New York Civil Liberties Union filed this lawsuit in April 2004 on behalf of an Internet Service Provider (ISP) that received an NSL. Because the FBI imposed a gag order on the ISP, the lawsuit was filed under seal, and even today the ACLU is prohibited from disclosing its client&#039;s identity. The FBI continues to maintain the gag order even though the underlying investigation is more than four years old (and may well have ended), and even though the FBI abandoned its demand for records from the ISP over a year and a half ago.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That paragraph seems to imply that the ISP asked for help in fighting this (which probably put it in some jeopardy) and didn&#039;t cave and just release the records to pacify the FBI. &lt;strong&gt;I want &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; company to be my ISP!&lt;/strong&gt;

Also,
&lt;blockquote&gt;The OIG also found that the FBI continues to impose gag orders on about 97 percent of NSL recipients and that, in some cases, the FBI failed to sufficiently justify why the gag orders were imposed in the first place.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
97% gag policy. So, basically &lt;em&gt;by default&lt;/em&gt; the FBI uses a power that says, &quot;The government is doing its best to ruin your life &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; you have to shut up and let them do it.&quot; I just wanted to re-emphasize that the FBI is generally no less corrupt and overreaching than local law enforcement. The government&#039;s claim that their targets are &quot;the worst of the worst&quot; bad guys is definitely not bolstered by the fact that it&#039;s the government that wants secrecy and the &#039;bad guys&#039; who want light shed on what&#039;s going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding <a href="http://www.aclu.org/safefree/nsaspying/38113prs20081215.html?s_src=RSS" rel="nofollow">the ruling on USA PATRIOT Act National Security Letter gag orders</a>,</p>
<blockquote><p>The ACLU and New York Civil Liberties Union filed this lawsuit in April 2004 on behalf of an Internet Service Provider (ISP) that received an NSL. Because the FBI imposed a gag order on the ISP, the lawsuit was filed under seal, and even today the ACLU is prohibited from disclosing its client&#8217;s identity. The FBI continues to maintain the gag order even though the underlying investigation is more than four years old (and may well have ended), and even though the FBI abandoned its demand for records from the ISP over a year and a half ago.</p></blockquote>
<p>That paragraph seems to imply that the ISP asked for help in fighting this (which probably put it in some jeopardy) and didn&#8217;t cave and just release the records to pacify the FBI. <strong>I want <em>that</em> company to be my ISP!</strong></p>
<p>Also,</p>
<blockquote><p>The OIG also found that the FBI continues to impose gag orders on about 97 percent of NSL recipients and that, in some cases, the FBI failed to sufficiently justify why the gag orders were imposed in the first place.</p></blockquote>
<p>97% gag policy. So, basically <em>by default</em> the FBI uses a power that says, &#8220;The government is doing its best to ruin your life <em>and</em> you have to shut up and let them do it.&#8221; I just wanted to re-emphasize that the FBI is generally no less corrupt and overreaching than local law enforcement. The government&#8217;s claim that their targets are &#8220;the worst of the worst&#8221; bad guys is definitely not bolstered by the fact that it&#8217;s the government that wants secrecy and the &#8216;bad guys&#8217; who want light shed on what&#8217;s going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Nando</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no problem with Google blocking trademarked names and only allowing the companies who own the trademarks to use them.  Why should Google be held responsible for liable suits against them just for letting someone post an add saying &quot;Wal-Mart sucks&quot; or whatever they want to place?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no problem with Google blocking trademarked names and only allowing the companies who own the trademarks to use them.  Why should Google be held responsible for liable suits against them just for letting someone post an add saying &#8220;Wal-Mart sucks&#8221; or whatever they want to place?</p>
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