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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Frank Burdett</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/10/morning-links-116/comment-page-1/#comment-217010</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Burdett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Remember the New York City subway sodomy case from a couple of months ago? &quot;


I in no way wish to trivialize an investigation of which I know nothing about... 

but...

In a quick glance I misread the above as &quot;the New York City subway sodomy case from a couple of _mouths_ ago?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Remember the New York City subway sodomy case from a couple of months ago? &#8221;</p>
<p>I in no way wish to trivialize an investigation of which I know nothing about&#8230; </p>
<p>but&#8230;</p>
<p>In a quick glance I misread the above as &#8220;the New York City subway sodomy case from a couple of _mouths_ ago?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Werner</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/10/morning-links-116/comment-page-1/#comment-216418</link>
		<dc:creator>Werner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What? No more Google Earth in India? Why should everyone else have to suffer because of some criminal, terrorist thugs from Pakistan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What? No more Google Earth in India? Why should everyone else have to suffer because of some criminal, terrorist thugs from Pakistan?</p>
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		<title>By: TC</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/10/morning-links-116/comment-page-1/#comment-216417</link>
		<dc:creator>TC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Given that the point of bail is to ensure that the accused shows up for his court dates, a low bail for Gov. Blagojevich makes perfect sense. He’s not a flight risk. I’m surprised he wasn’t released on his own recognizance.&quot;

So the Duke Lacrosse players required 400 grand EACH because they might have what?  Some bonifide whore accused them of raping her?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Given that the point of bail is to ensure that the accused shows up for his court dates, a low bail for Gov. Blagojevich makes perfect sense. He’s not a flight risk. I’m surprised he wasn’t released on his own recognizance.&#8221;</p>
<p>So the Duke Lacrosse players required 400 grand EACH because they might have what?  Some bonifide whore accused them of raping her?</p>
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		<title>By: James D</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/10/morning-links-116/comment-page-1/#comment-216396</link>
		<dc:creator>James D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 00:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think someone should rent &#039;Idiocracy&#039; for Thomas Frank and then ask what he thinks .....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think someone should rent &#8216;Idiocracy&#8217; for Thomas Frank and then ask what he thinks &#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd Durkin</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/10/morning-links-116/comment-page-1/#comment-216385</link>
		<dc:creator>Boyd Durkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Mumbai terrorists:  When information is incredibly available for everyone, it really forces people to think about the consequences of their actions.  Or, you can just outlaw information.

Outlawing information is a pretty good description of North Korea.  India&#039;s reaction (as well as the restrictions put on thousands of &quot;dangerous&quot; things in the US and across the world) stands side-by-side with N.Korean philosophy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Mumbai terrorists:  When information is incredibly available for everyone, it really forces people to think about the consequences of their actions.  Or, you can just outlaw information.</p>
<p>Outlawing information is a pretty good description of North Korea.  India&#8217;s reaction (as well as the restrictions put on thousands of &#8220;dangerous&#8221; things in the US and across the world) stands side-by-side with N.Korean philosophy.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris in AL</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/10/morning-links-116/comment-page-1/#comment-216382</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris in AL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>India may be on to something.  I just wonder how India banning Google Earth will stop terrorists from looking at it in Pakistan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>India may be on to something.  I just wonder how India banning Google Earth will stop terrorists from looking at it in Pakistan?</p>
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		<title>By: Brock</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/10/morning-links-116/comment-page-1/#comment-216356</link>
		<dc:creator>Brock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given that the point of bail is to ensure that the accused shows up for his court dates, a low bail for Gov. Blagojevich makes perfect sense. He&#039;s not a flight risk. I&#039;m surprised he wasn&#039;t released on his own recognizance.

A relatively anonymous drug criminal, on the other hand, would be a much greater flight risk, so a higher bail might well be called for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given that the point of bail is to ensure that the accused shows up for his court dates, a low bail for Gov. Blagojevich makes perfect sense. He&#8217;s not a flight risk. I&#8217;m surprised he wasn&#8217;t released on his own recognizance.</p>
<p>A relatively anonymous drug criminal, on the other hand, would be a much greater flight risk, so a higher bail might well be called for.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeL</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/10/morning-links-116/comment-page-1/#comment-216314</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;India may ban Google Earth because it may have aided Mumbai terrorists.&quot;

My place got broken into last month.  It&#039;s obvious that it&#039;s the fault of the crowbar companies.  When will the US government reign in these criminal enablers?  Sorry, your attempts to re-label these devices built to enable B&amp;E criminals as &quot;building tools&quot; just shows your lack of seriousness on the War on Crime.  Only criminal-enablers don&#039;t support banning &quot;crowbars&quot;, or as right-thinking Americans call them, Tools of Terror.

And don&#039;t even get me started on matches and lighters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;India may ban Google Earth because it may have aided Mumbai terrorists.&#8221;</p>
<p>My place got broken into last month.  It&#8217;s obvious that it&#8217;s the fault of the crowbar companies.  When will the US government reign in these criminal enablers?  Sorry, your attempts to re-label these devices built to enable B&amp;E criminals as &#8220;building tools&#8221; just shows your lack of seriousness on the War on Crime.  Only criminal-enablers don&#8217;t support banning &#8220;crowbars&#8221;, or as right-thinking Americans call them, Tools of Terror.</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t even get me started on matches and lighters.</p>
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		<title>By: Helmut O' Hooligan</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/10/morning-links-116/comment-page-1/#comment-216312</link>
		<dc:creator>Helmut O' Hooligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#1 Mike Leatherwood:  &quot;Surprised that two police officers testified in the New York case. There is hope after all….&quot;

Perhaps.  But this is really the least the officers could do in this situation.  If this scenario played out the way Mineo has testified, an officer on scene should have physically stopped the assault, drawn down on the offending officer(s), and taken him into custody.  That&#039;s how you would stop any other rape in progress.  If no one on scene lifted a finger, everyone should go to prison (looks like a gang rape to me!).  

Frank Serpico said that when he became a police officer, he was called upon to enforce the law, no matter who the law breakers were (I&#039;m paraphrasing).  He also stated that we must get to the point where the corrupt officer fears the ethical officer, and not the other way around.  Obviously, we have a long way to go.

I intitially voiced skepticism about this case, due to what I thought were inconsistencies in Mineo&#039;s statements (I read that he was hesitant to release his medical records to the court). I also didn&#039;t want to think that officers of the NYPD would be stupid enough, or savage enough, to engage in this kind of activity AGAIN.  Well, its looking like Mineo&#039;s story may be truthful, and I am disgusted.  If they are guilty, they should go where rapists go.  Its as simple as that.  As for NYPD, I&#039;m almost at the point where I&#039;m tempted to say, scrap it and start the whole damn thing over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#1 Mike Leatherwood:  &#8220;Surprised that two police officers testified in the New York case. There is hope after all….&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps.  But this is really the least the officers could do in this situation.  If this scenario played out the way Mineo has testified, an officer on scene should have physically stopped the assault, drawn down on the offending officer(s), and taken him into custody.  That&#8217;s how you would stop any other rape in progress.  If no one on scene lifted a finger, everyone should go to prison (looks like a gang rape to me!).  </p>
<p>Frank Serpico said that when he became a police officer, he was called upon to enforce the law, no matter who the law breakers were (I&#8217;m paraphrasing).  He also stated that we must get to the point where the corrupt officer fears the ethical officer, and not the other way around.  Obviously, we have a long way to go.</p>
<p>I intitially voiced skepticism about this case, due to what I thought were inconsistencies in Mineo&#8217;s statements (I read that he was hesitant to release his medical records to the court). I also didn&#8217;t want to think that officers of the NYPD would be stupid enough, or savage enough, to engage in this kind of activity AGAIN.  Well, its looking like Mineo&#8217;s story may be truthful, and I am disgusted.  If they are guilty, they should go where rapists go.  Its as simple as that.  As for NYPD, I&#8217;m almost at the point where I&#8217;m tempted to say, scrap it and start the whole damn thing over.</p>
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		<title>By: Lior</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/10/morning-links-116/comment-page-1/#comment-216286</link>
		<dc:creator>Lior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gov. Blagojevich is probably a crook, but he is definitely not a flight risk in the way a private person might be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gov. Blagojevich is probably a crook, but he is definitely not a flight risk in the way a private person might be.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/10/morning-links-116/comment-page-1/#comment-216281</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who is John Galt?</description>
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		<title>By: Boyd Durkin</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/10/morning-links-116/comment-page-1/#comment-216269</link>
		<dc:creator>Boyd Durkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The backlash against all things free-market has surprised even me.  I&#039;d say it is unprecedented in the last ~50 years.  Good thing for these people that the benefits of a free market don&#039;t ask about their ideology before providing the good stuff.

When can America officially kill that damn &quot;home of the free&quot; slogan?  I&#039;ve never been less free in all my life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The backlash against all things free-market has surprised even me.  I&#8217;d say it is unprecedented in the last ~50 years.  Good thing for these people that the benefits of a free market don&#8217;t ask about their ideology before providing the good stuff.</p>
<p>When can America officially kill that damn &#8220;home of the free&#8221; slogan?  I&#8217;ve never been less free in all my life.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Krueger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Krueger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being a habitual freedom-loving subversive (thereby disqualifying myself from membership in either of the two main political parties), I believe a woman should have the right to rent out her womb just as she should have the right to rent out her vagina.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a habitual freedom-loving subversive (thereby disqualifying myself from membership in either of the two main political parties), I believe a woman should have the right to rent out her womb just as she should have the right to rent out her vagina.</p>
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		<title>By: Edmund Dantes</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/10/morning-links-116/comment-page-1/#comment-216258</link>
		<dc:creator>Edmund Dantes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Open Thread

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2008/12/sick-and-sicker-by-digby-it-looks-like.html

    &lt;i&gt;In Oklahoma, a driver goes into severe diabetic shock, but instead of getting help, he&#039;s tasered and then handcuffed.

    This video shows what happened in El Reno, Oklahoma last month after the man&#039;s truck spun out on the interstate.

    The town&#039;s police chief says his officers thought the 53-year-old man was under the influence of drugs or alcohol and was resisting arrest.

    He says after they realized that wasn&#039;t the case, they called an ambulance.



The tape is here. The officers feel bad about what they did, &lt;b&gt;but I have to wonder how police handled situations like this before tasers? Did they shoot them with a gun?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

I think it goes to show that Cops are looking to use their toys independent of whether the situation really requires them. What&#039;s the point of this gun if I don&#039;t get to occasionally shoot something? Ohhhh!! A dog. He lunged at me. Shoot!!

Or their tasers. Oh he&#039;s flopping around and resisting arrest. He&#039;s got to be on drugs. Tase him!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Open Thread</p>
<p><a href="http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2008/12/sick-and-sicker-by-digby-it-looks-like.html" rel="nofollow">http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2008/12/sick-and-sicker-by-digby-it-looks-like.html</a></p>
<p>    <i>In Oklahoma, a driver goes into severe diabetic shock, but instead of getting help, he&#8217;s tasered and then handcuffed.</p>
<p>    This video shows what happened in El Reno, Oklahoma last month after the man&#8217;s truck spun out on the interstate.</p>
<p>    The town&#8217;s police chief says his officers thought the 53-year-old man was under the influence of drugs or alcohol and was resisting arrest.</p>
<p>    He says after they realized that wasn&#8217;t the case, they called an ambulance.</p>
<p>The tape is here. The officers feel bad about what they did, <b>but I have to wonder how police handled situations like this before tasers? Did they shoot them with a gun?</b></i></p>
<p>I think it goes to show that Cops are looking to use their toys independent of whether the situation really requires them. What&#8217;s the point of this gun if I don&#8217;t get to occasionally shoot something? Ohhhh!! A dog. He lunged at me. Shoot!!</p>
<p>Or their tasers. Oh he&#8217;s flopping around and resisting arrest. He&#8217;s got to be on drugs. Tase him!!</p>
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		<title>By: Edintally</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/10/morning-links-116/comment-page-1/#comment-216257</link>
		<dc:creator>Edintally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL you got me with the edgy advertising</description>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/10/morning-links-116/comment-page-1/#comment-216246</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Thomas Frank: Free markets lead to low-income women consensual renting out their wombs to barren upper-income women. He find that icky. Let’s ban it! The free market stinks! Better the rich woman stay childless and the poor woman not get the extra income, lest we offend Thomas Frank’s sensibilities. But what do I know. I’m just a “regular feeder at D.C.’s subsidized libertarian troughs.” &lt;/blockquote&gt;

What seems to elude most anti-market people is that market transactions are voluntary whereas their preferred solutions are not only not voluntary they are coercive and even violent.  But their preferred solutions are better...go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Thomas Frank: Free markets lead to low-income women consensual renting out their wombs to barren upper-income women. He find that icky. Let’s ban it! The free market stinks! Better the rich woman stay childless and the poor woman not get the extra income, lest we offend Thomas Frank’s sensibilities. But what do I know. I’m just a “regular feeder at D.C.’s subsidized libertarian troughs.” </p></blockquote>
<p>What seems to elude most anti-market people is that market transactions are voluntary whereas their preferred solutions are not only not voluntary they are coercive and even violent.  But their preferred solutions are better&#8230;go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynical In CA</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/10/morning-links-116/comment-page-1/#comment-216232</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynical In CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Frank

How noble the law is that it equally forbids rich and poor alike from sleeping under bridges.</description>
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<p>How noble the law is that it equally forbids rich and poor alike from sleeping under bridges.</p>
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		<title>By: raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fraak is the WSJ&#039;s token &quot;liberal&quot;, and as is the norm they seem to have picked a socialist by mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fraak is the WSJ&#8217;s token &#8220;liberal&#8221;, and as is the norm they seem to have picked a socialist by mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: MacK</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/10/morning-links-116/comment-page-1/#comment-216223</link>
		<dc:creator>MacK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Mumbai terrorists would have used hand drawn maps would they now be attempting to ban pencils, and paper? If they had used street maps would they ban Rand McNally? If they had used crayons, and toilet paper would they ban coloring, and pooping?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Mumbai terrorists would have used hand drawn maps would they now be attempting to ban pencils, and paper? If they had used street maps would they ban Rand McNally? If they had used crayons, and toilet paper would they ban coloring, and pooping?</p>
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		<title>By: Mattocracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mattocracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to see liberals wanting to take reproductive rights away from women just like the conservatives.  Frank probably thinks gay marriage exploits the poor somehow as well.</description>
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