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	<title>Comments on: Jonathan Magbie</title>
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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: George Washington</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/09/jonathan-magbie-2/comment-page-1/#comment-411431</link>
		<dc:creator>George Washington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 03:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Magbie uses a little marijuana to help him with his pain, and refuses to lie about its benefits gets the death penalty, while G. Bush around the same time admitted in a taped interview that he liked to use marijuana because it helped him relax.  It seems Big-Pharma Execs, their lobbyists and the likes of these types of politicians will understand only one thing.  I can&#039;t say it, but maybe you can associate the initials to the words, A B I T H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Magbie uses a little marijuana to help him with his pain, and refuses to lie about its benefits gets the death penalty, while G. Bush around the same time admitted in a taped interview that he liked to use marijuana because it helped him relax.  It seems Big-Pharma Execs, their lobbyists and the likes of these types of politicians will understand only one thing.  I can&#8217;t say it, but maybe you can associate the initials to the words, A B I T H.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/09/jonathan-magbie-2/comment-page-1/#comment-216774</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 01:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish that I had the power--for just one day--to decree that the Dishonorable Judith Retchin (how aptly named!) would be barred from presiding over any case at ANY level, or even setting foot in a courtroom--except for her disbarment and sentencing on the charge of criminal negligance--until the time of her death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish that I had the power&#8211;for just one day&#8211;to decree that the Dishonorable Judith Retchin (how aptly named!) would be barred from presiding over any case at ANY level, or even setting foot in a courtroom&#8211;except for her disbarment and sentencing on the charge of criminal negligance&#8211;until the time of her death.</p>
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		<title>By: davidst</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/09/jonathan-magbie-2/comment-page-1/#comment-216420</link>
		<dc:creator>davidst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The judge should be charged with manslaughter.  At the very least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The judge should be charged with manslaughter.  At the very least.</p>
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		<title>By: Helmut O' Hooligan</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/09/jonathan-magbie-2/comment-page-1/#comment-216413</link>
		<dc:creator>Helmut O' Hooligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#19: It seems to work pretty well, but I guess they do things a bit better in the “federal enclave.”

Oops, I did not mean to say that they do things &quot;better&quot; in DC.  I think I was going to put &quot;differently,&quot; but I goofed up.  My error.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#19: It seems to work pretty well, but I guess they do things a bit better in the “federal enclave.”</p>
<p>Oops, I did not mean to say that they do things &#8220;better&#8221; in DC.  I think I was going to put &#8220;differently,&#8221; but I goofed up.  My error.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/09/jonathan-magbie-2/comment-page-1/#comment-216406</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the downside to judicial immunity, which is why I am against it.  This bitch should (but won&#039;t) fry.  And I mean fry -- no nice clean needle for her, dust off Ol&#039; Sparky and see how she likes taking a 40kV ride at 500 amps AC.  I&#039;d pay for the privilege of pulling the switch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the downside to judicial immunity, which is why I am against it.  This bitch should (but won&#8217;t) fry.  And I mean fry &#8212; no nice clean needle for her, dust off Ol&#8217; Sparky and see how she likes taking a 40kV ride at 500 amps AC.  I&#8217;d pay for the privilege of pulling the switch.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynical In CA</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/09/jonathan-magbie-2/comment-page-1/#comment-216399</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynical In CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yeah, but I’m not laughing…..&quot;

Nor am I, Steve.  Closing the href tag is pure CYA, my man.

&quot;That sentence was effectively a death sentence there needs to be some sort of way to do something about a judge like that and not have to page Jim Bell.&quot;

Ah, the difference between &quot;ought&quot; and &quot;is.&quot;  While I am a borderline pacifist, the logical beauty of Bell&#039;s hypothesis keeps hammering away at me like a bell in the night.

For, you see, force is the only language statists speak.

&quot;Such a sentence was simply way out of line. I think if I were in charge of that facility I’d have taken him to the hospital, said to the doctor, “No he can’t go back.” And tell the judge I’m not going to kill a man for her…Hell, I’d do it in public in front of the press just to piss off the cupid stunt.&quot;

Alas, such courage is the rarest of commodities these days.  You and I are Diogenes, lamps in hand, searching for eternity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yeah, but I’m not laughing…..&#8221;</p>
<p>Nor am I, Steve.  Closing the href tag is pure CYA, my man.</p>
<p>&#8220;That sentence was effectively a death sentence there needs to be some sort of way to do something about a judge like that and not have to page Jim Bell.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ah, the difference between &#8220;ought&#8221; and &#8220;is.&#8221;  While I am a borderline pacifist, the logical beauty of Bell&#8217;s hypothesis keeps hammering away at me like a bell in the night.</p>
<p>For, you see, force is the only language statists speak.</p>
<p>&#8220;Such a sentence was simply way out of line. I think if I were in charge of that facility I’d have taken him to the hospital, said to the doctor, “No he can’t go back.” And tell the judge I’m not going to kill a man for her…Hell, I’d do it in public in front of the press just to piss off the cupid stunt.&#8221;</p>
<p>Alas, such courage is the rarest of commodities these days.  You and I are Diogenes, lamps in hand, searching for eternity.</p>
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		<title>By: Helmut O' Hooligan</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/09/jonathan-magbie-2/comment-page-1/#comment-216392</link>
		<dc:creator>Helmut O' Hooligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 00:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#5 Dave:  &quot;The judge was flat out wrong, but remember, the judicial branch has no enforcement capability, that comes from the executive powers of the sheriffs department, or at least that was how things were set up to separate powers in a republic.&quot;

Very good observation, Dave.  Nice discussion of balance of powers in the criminal justice system.  Here in IL, Sheriff&#039;s Dept. jail staff can and do reject injured/ill arrestees.  The larger Sheriff&#039;s Offices have medical units inside the jails, but they aren&#039;t equipped to deal w/ cases like the one in this story.  Arresting police officers routinely take arrestees to ER&#039;s for treatment, because they know that they will be wasting their time if they send someone out to the &quot;county hotel&quot; with a medical problem. It seems to work pretty well, but I guess they do things a bit better in the &quot;federal enclave.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#5 Dave:  &#8220;The judge was flat out wrong, but remember, the judicial branch has no enforcement capability, that comes from the executive powers of the sheriffs department, or at least that was how things were set up to separate powers in a republic.&#8221;</p>
<p>Very good observation, Dave.  Nice discussion of balance of powers in the criminal justice system.  Here in IL, Sheriff&#8217;s Dept. jail staff can and do reject injured/ill arrestees.  The larger Sheriff&#8217;s Offices have medical units inside the jails, but they aren&#8217;t equipped to deal w/ cases like the one in this story.  Arresting police officers routinely take arrestees to ER&#8217;s for treatment, because they know that they will be wasting their time if they send someone out to the &#8220;county hotel&#8221; with a medical problem. It seems to work pretty well, but I guess they do things a bit better in the &#8220;federal enclave.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: OneByTheCee</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/09/jonathan-magbie-2/comment-page-1/#comment-216288</link>
		<dc:creator>OneByTheCee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out this developing story:

http://news.aol.com/article/inquiry-ordered-into-school-graves/273424</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out this developing story:</p>
<p><a href="http://news.aol.com/article/inquiry-ordered-into-school-graves/273424" rel="nofollow">http://news.aol.com/article/inquiry-ordered-into-school-graves/273424</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/09/jonathan-magbie-2/comment-page-1/#comment-216285</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The Judge should be up on charges of negligent homicide.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Forget that. Depraved indifference homicide.  In most jurisdictions, that&#039;s 2nd degree murder. Any reasonable person would know the likely consequences of her actions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The Judge should be up on charges of negligent homicide.</p></blockquote>
<p>Forget that. Depraved indifference homicide.  In most jurisdictions, that&#8217;s 2nd degree murder. Any reasonable person would know the likely consequences of her actions.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/09/jonathan-magbie-2/comment-page-1/#comment-216260</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“Calling Jim Bell. Cleanup on aisle five.”

/humor
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, but I&#039;m not laughing.....

That sentence was effectively a death sentence there needs to be some sort of way to do something about a judge like that and not have to page Jim Bell.  Such a sentence was simply way out of line.  I think if I were in charge of that facility I&#039;d have taken him to the hospital, said to the doctor, &quot;No he can&#039;t go back.&quot;  And tell the judge I&#039;m not going to kill a man for her...Hell, I&#039;d do it in public in front of the press just to piss off the cupid stunt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“Calling Jim Bell. Cleanup on aisle five.”</p>
<p>/humor
</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, but I&#8217;m not laughing&#8230;..</p>
<p>That sentence was effectively a death sentence there needs to be some sort of way to do something about a judge like that and not have to page Jim Bell.  Such a sentence was simply way out of line.  I think if I were in charge of that facility I&#8217;d have taken him to the hospital, said to the doctor, &#8220;No he can&#8217;t go back.&#8221;  And tell the judge I&#8217;m not going to kill a man for her&#8230;Hell, I&#8217;d do it in public in front of the press just to piss off the cupid stunt.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynical In CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynical In CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Calling Jim Bell.  Cleanup on aisle five.&quot;

/humor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Calling Jim Bell.  Cleanup on aisle five.&#8221;</p>
<p>/humor</p>
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		<title>By: OneByTheCee</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/09/jonathan-magbie-2/comment-page-1/#comment-216198</link>
		<dc:creator>OneByTheCee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone should arrange a &quot;playdate&quot; with Judge Retchin and Mary Beth Buchanan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone should arrange a &#8220;playdate&#8221; with Judge Retchin and Mary Beth Buchanan.</p>
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		<title>By: C. S. P. Schofield</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/09/jonathan-magbie-2/comment-page-1/#comment-216107</link>
		<dc:creator>C. S. P. Schofield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Judge should be up on charges of negligent homicide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Judge should be up on charges of negligent homicide.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Beck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does this monster of a woman sleep at night?

My god.

Call it terrible if you want, but if I someday read a newspaper account that she&#039;d been found hacked to pieces and stuffed in a trash bag, I would have to cheer.

I think I can understand how some people could fall for religion in the face of such implacable evil.  What else is left?

Curse you Retchin, and everything that&#039;s yours.  You have earned the everlasting contempt of your countrymen, and you richly deserve it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does this monster of a woman sleep at night?</p>
<p>My god.</p>
<p>Call it terrible if you want, but if I someday read a newspaper account that she&#8217;d been found hacked to pieces and stuffed in a trash bag, I would have to cheer.</p>
<p>I think I can understand how some people could fall for religion in the face of such implacable evil.  What else is left?</p>
<p>Curse you Retchin, and everything that&#8217;s yours.  You have earned the everlasting contempt of your countrymen, and you richly deserve it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Flack</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/09/jonathan-magbie-2/comment-page-1/#comment-216072</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Flack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are going to vote for prosecutors, judges sheriffs etc. get rid of secret ballots. Have open ballots and if you have a successful lawsuit against these officers then those who voted for them pay for the settlement. Put responsibility where it ultimately belongs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are going to vote for prosecutors, judges sheriffs etc. get rid of secret ballots. Have open ballots and if you have a successful lawsuit against these officers then those who voted for them pay for the settlement. Put responsibility where it ultimately belongs.</p>
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		<title>By: nobahdi</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/09/jonathan-magbie-2/comment-page-1/#comment-216054</link>
		<dc:creator>nobahdi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truly a disgusting case.  Somehow individuals need to be held responsible, not just taxpayers.

On a side note, the article said he also had I gun.  Why would he have that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truly a disgusting case.  Somehow individuals need to be held responsible, not just taxpayers.</p>
<p>On a side note, the article said he also had I gun.  Why would he have that?</p>
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		<title>By: claude</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/09/jonathan-magbie-2/comment-page-1/#comment-216045</link>
		<dc:creator>claude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This case should be her legacy.&quot;

And it just might be.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_E._Retchin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This case should be her legacy.&#8221;</p>
<p>And it just might be.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_E._Retchin" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_E._Retchin</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lior</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you support life tenure for judges, you get cases like this.  Since electing judges gives even worse results, in this case the best option is to fix:

Either
1. The law (allowing the department of corrections to either pay for inmates to be kept in the hospital or release them home in such conditions).

or

2. The prison (equipping every prison with state-of-the-art medical hospice facilities).

I vote for (1)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you support life tenure for judges, you get cases like this.  Since electing judges gives even worse results, in this case the best option is to fix:</p>
<p>Either<br />
1. The law (allowing the department of corrections to either pay for inmates to be kept in the hospital or release them home in such conditions).</p>
<p>or</p>
<p>2. The prison (equipping every prison with state-of-the-art medical hospice facilities).</p>
<p>I vote for (1)</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not understand how this judge can make medical decisions, that directly result in the death of the young man, yet, cannot be held to the standard that me and any other physician would be held to. She was atempting to practice medicine, was she not?  Her decision to not supply the needed respirator directly resulted in the death of the young man.  That is murder!  I am livid!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not understand how this judge can make medical decisions, that directly result in the death of the young man, yet, cannot be held to the standard that me and any other physician would be held to. She was atempting to practice medicine, was she not?  Her decision to not supply the needed respirator directly resulted in the death of the young man.  That is murder!  I am livid!</p>
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		<title>By: cuernimus</title>
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		<dc:creator>cuernimus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He got the equivalent of the death penalty for marijuana possession.  How terrible.  I wonder if this is &quot;just going by the books,&quot; and if so it makes a strong case for judicial activism (as well as a total revamp of drug policy).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He got the equivalent of the death penalty for marijuana possession.  How terrible.  I wonder if this is &#8220;just going by the books,&#8221; and if so it makes a strong case for judicial activism (as well as a total revamp of drug policy).</p>
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