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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Helmut O' Hooligan</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/03/lunch-links-25/comment-page-1/#comment-214520</link>
		<dc:creator>Helmut O' Hooligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Buttars, R-West Jordan, wants retailers to embrace Christmas in their promotions, saying the United States is a Christian nation and ought to use the holiday&#039;s name&quot;

Another Republican who appreciates the wonders of the free market.  Oh, wonder why he wouldn&#039;t name the co-sponsors of his little bill.  Could they be the father, son and holy ghost?  Tee hee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Buttars, R-West Jordan, wants retailers to embrace Christmas in their promotions, saying the United States is a Christian nation and ought to use the holiday&#8217;s name&#8221;</p>
<p>Another Republican who appreciates the wonders of the free market.  Oh, wonder why he wouldn&#8217;t name the co-sponsors of his little bill.  Could they be the father, son and holy ghost?  Tee hee.</p>
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		<title>By: Andre Kenji</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/03/lunch-links-25/comment-page-1/#comment-214498</link>
		<dc:creator>Andre Kenji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Chambliss wins. GOP will have at least a filibuster-able minority. That’s a good thing. I just wish it had been someone else whose win cemented them at 41. &quot;

They don´t. Unless Obama does something very dumb that would put even Democrats against him he will face no filibuster. You don´t sustain a filibuster with numbers like that: Susan Collins, Olympia Snowe and Arlen Specter aren´t going to go along with that. 

Even the most liberal judge in the world, if qualified, will be approved by the Senate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Chambliss wins. GOP will have at least a filibuster-able minority. That’s a good thing. I just wish it had been someone else whose win cemented them at 41. &#8221;</p>
<p>They don´t. Unless Obama does something very dumb that would put even Democrats against him he will face no filibuster. You don´t sustain a filibuster with numbers like that: Susan Collins, Olympia Snowe and Arlen Specter aren´t going to go along with that. </p>
<p>Even the most liberal judge in the world, if qualified, will be approved by the Senate.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/03/lunch-links-25/comment-page-1/#comment-214471</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Z re: #13 --

&quot;Every time [a bell rings] you hear about a &#039;reliable but unsubstantiated&#039; terror threat a[n angel] torturing interrogator gets its wings.&quot;

To ZappaCrappa re: #24 --

Hahahahaha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Z re: #13 &#8211;</p>
<p>&#8220;Every time [a bell rings] you hear about a &#8216;reliable but unsubstantiated&#8217; terror threat a[n angel] torturing interrogator gets its wings.&#8221;</p>
<p>To ZappaCrappa re: #24 &#8211;</p>
<p>Hahahahaha!</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/03/lunch-links-25/comment-page-1/#comment-214457</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see -- drunken students trash banquet hall, and class president kills herself inhaling freon (or something).  Good thing those are &quot;victimless crimes&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see &#8212; drunken students trash banquet hall, and class president kills herself inhaling freon (or something).  Good thing those are &#8220;victimless crimes&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: parse</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/03/lunch-links-25/comment-page-1/#comment-214340</link>
		<dc:creator>parse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, at least the drunken students were busy trashing a banquet hall and not driving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, at least the drunken students were busy trashing a banquet hall and not driving.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/03/lunch-links-25/comment-page-1/#comment-214337</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In contrast, the federal government can and should borrow money to stimulate the economy. That&#039;s how America got out of the Great Depression&quot; (snip).

Really?  Doesn&#039;t anybody study history anymore?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In contrast, the federal government can and should borrow money to stimulate the economy. That&#8217;s how America got out of the Great Depression&#8221; (snip).</p>
<p>Really?  Doesn&#8217;t anybody study history anymore?</p>
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		<title>By: Op-Ed by Iraq Interrogator &#171; Beware of Roaming</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/03/lunch-links-25/comment-page-1/#comment-214233</link>
		<dc:creator>Op-Ed by Iraq Interrogator &#171; Beware of Roaming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by Iraq&#160;Interrogator  Definitely, worth a read HT RB. Here&#8217;s what he said about his struggle to write about his thoughts: When I submitted the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: old</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/03/lunch-links-25/comment-page-1/#comment-214225</link>
		<dc:creator>old</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had people say to me &#039;Merry Christmas!&#039; with that I dare you to knock this battery of my shoulder look that I have pretended to be deaf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had people say to me &#8216;Merry Christmas!&#8217; with that I dare you to knock this battery of my shoulder look that I have pretended to be deaf.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/03/lunch-links-25/comment-page-1/#comment-214205</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Utah lawmaker: idiot
http://rightklik.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Utah lawmaker: idiot<br />
<a href="http://rightklik.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://rightklik.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: ZappaCrappa</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/03/lunch-links-25/comment-page-1/#comment-214193</link>
		<dc:creator>ZappaCrappa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>High School Students Against Drunk Driving eh?.....I wonder if I can find out when the school&#039;s chapter of &quot;Abstinence Until Marriage&quot; chapter is meeting......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>High School Students Against Drunk Driving eh?&#8230;..I wonder if I can find out when the school&#8217;s chapter of &#8220;Abstinence Until Marriage&#8221; chapter is meeting&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Blagnet.net &#187; Unlawful imprisonment on airplanes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blagnet.net &#187; Unlawful imprisonment on airplanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] were kept on board the plane for nearly 14 hours on November 30. It was supposed to be 4.5 hours. Radley Balko asks, &#8220;How is holding someone in an enclosed airplaine on a tarmac with no circulating air and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] were kept on board the plane for nearly 14 hours on November 30. It was supposed to be 4.5 hours. Radley Balko asks, &#8220;How is holding someone in an enclosed airplaine on a tarmac with no circulating air and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/03/lunch-links-25/comment-page-1/#comment-214182</link>
		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#18 is absolutely right which is just one reason why this bill is so odious. If I want to tell the clerk Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah, Awesome Kwanzaa or Bah Humbug, I should be allowed to- and she should be allowed to say Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays or whatever else (or nothing- how cheery can people be working a physically demanding, dead end job for peanuts?) she should be allowed to as well.

Remember, they first came for the cashiers (but I didn&#039;t speak up because I am not a cashier)......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#18 is absolutely right which is just one reason why this bill is so odious. If I want to tell the clerk Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah, Awesome Kwanzaa or Bah Humbug, I should be allowed to- and she should be allowed to say Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays or whatever else (or nothing- how cheery can people be working a physically demanding, dead end job for peanuts?) she should be allowed to as well.</p>
<p>Remember, they first came for the cashiers (but I didn&#8217;t speak up because I am not a cashier)&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three cheers for Matthew Alexander and writing that article and a book on the dangers of torture.  I thought his article was very persuasive.  He presented his reasoning well and in a polite manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three cheers for Matthew Alexander and writing that article and a book on the dangers of torture.  I thought his article was very persuasive.  He presented his reasoning well and in a polite manner.</p>
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		<title>By: warren_piece</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/03/lunch-links-25/comment-page-1/#comment-214170</link>
		<dc:creator>warren_piece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the guy that wrote that op-ed was interviewed on democracy now! this morning.  great interview.  im certainly going to get his book, as well.  best thing to do would be to send a copy of his book to each congressman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the guy that wrote that op-ed was interviewed on democracy now! this morning.  great interview.  im certainly going to get his book, as well.  best thing to do would be to send a copy of his book to each congressman.</p>
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		<title>By: tsiroth</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/03/lunch-links-25/comment-page-1/#comment-214153</link>
		<dc:creator>tsiroth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: #3 I think characterizing it as legislation is misleading, given that he is pushing for them to pass a &lt;i&gt;non-binding resolution&lt;/i&gt;, not a law.  It&#039;s a silly resolution, but I&#039;m all for legislatures spending their time announcing their feelings about things instead of legislating.

Let&#039;s have more resolutions in favor of Merry Christmas, nursing mothers, and butterflies.  With many, many hours of floor debate.
Legislative time wasting is a &lt;i&gt;good&lt;/i&gt; thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: #3 I think characterizing it as legislation is misleading, given that he is pushing for them to pass a <i>non-binding resolution</i>, not a law.  It&#8217;s a silly resolution, but I&#8217;m all for legislatures spending their time announcing their feelings about things instead of legislating.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s have more resolutions in favor of Merry Christmas, nursing mothers, and butterflies.  With many, many hours of floor debate.<br />
Legislative time wasting is a <i>good</i> thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynical in CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynical in CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Utah lawmaker pushing legislation to persuade retailers to say &#039;Merry Christmas&#039; instead of &#039;Happy Holidays.&#039;&quot;

Haven&#039;t read the article yet, but ...

Legislation has nothing to do with persuasion, and has everything to do with force.

&quot;Government is not eloquence, it is not reason -- government is force.&quot;  George Washington

So, I will now read the article to see what this &quot;legislation&quot; is about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Utah lawmaker pushing legislation to persuade retailers to say &#8216;Merry Christmas&#8217; instead of &#8216;Happy Holidays.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t read the article yet, but &#8230;</p>
<p>Legislation has nothing to do with persuasion, and has everything to do with force.</p>
<p>&#8220;Government is not eloquence, it is not reason &#8212; government is force.&#8221;  George Washington</p>
<p>So, I will now read the article to see what this &#8220;legislation&#8221; is about.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ask the Pilot is a very informative column written by an airline pilot where he discusses numerous air travel related issues.  He has some interesting insight on the &quot;Passenger Bill of Rights&quot;.

http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/2008/11/21/askthepilot299/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ask the Pilot is a very informative column written by an airline pilot where he discusses numerous air travel related issues.  He has some interesting insight on the &#8220;Passenger Bill of Rights&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/2008/11/21/askthepilot299/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/2008/11/21/askthepilot299/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: SusanK</title>
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		<dc:creator>SusanK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as being held hostage on tarmac for 9 hours, I don&#039;t know whether it is legal, but it is certainly actionable (false imprisonment).  It has never happened to me, but I know enough civil law to know that I would have to inform the airline or its representative/agent that I no longer wish to be on the plane and I want to be released immediately (airlines can&#039;t force you to use your ticket).  I would also mention that the amount of time has been unreasonable and I am revoking any consent that I previously gave to being on the aircraft.  Probably a fine line between doing it nicely enough to avoid the FBI and strongly enough to have a civil suit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as being held hostage on tarmac for 9 hours, I don&#8217;t know whether it is legal, but it is certainly actionable (false imprisonment).  It has never happened to me, but I know enough civil law to know that I would have to inform the airline or its representative/agent that I no longer wish to be on the plane and I want to be released immediately (airlines can&#8217;t force you to use your ticket).  I would also mention that the amount of time has been unreasonable and I am revoking any consent that I previously gave to being on the aircraft.  Probably a fine line between doing it nicely enough to avoid the FBI and strongly enough to have a civil suit.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Chaney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Chaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Every time a school crossing guard is unavailable, because of furloughs, layoffs or any other reason,&quot; Maj. Dwayne Preston explained, &quot;I have to take one of my patrol officers off the street to fill in.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I can see Prince Georges County becoming safer already, particularly if he pulls guys off the swat team for this duty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Every time a school crossing guard is unavailable, because of furloughs, layoffs or any other reason,&#8221; Maj. Dwayne Preston explained, &#8220;I have to take one of my patrol officers off the street to fill in.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I can see Prince Georges County becoming safer already, particularly if he pulls guys off the swat team for this duty.</p>
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		<title>By: Legate Damar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Legate Damar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was only skimming the 4th story when I saw

&lt;i&gt;But there is an answer -- one that would protect schoolchildren in Beltsville and help get the world economy growing again. That is to focus a big part of the fiscal stimulus package being planned by President-elect Barack Obama on aid to&lt;/I&gt;

I honestly thought the next word was going to be &quot;Beltsville.&quot;

And yes, that IS a commentary on how silly this whole bailout thing has gotten.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was only skimming the 4th story when I saw</p>
<p><i>But there is an answer &#8212; one that would protect schoolchildren in Beltsville and help get the world economy growing again. That is to focus a big part of the fiscal stimulus package being planned by President-elect Barack Obama on aid to</i></p>
<p>I honestly thought the next word was going to be &#8220;Beltsville.&#8221;</p>
<p>And yes, that IS a commentary on how silly this whole bailout thing has gotten.</p>
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