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	<title>Comments on: Morning Links</title>
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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: icr</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/01/morning-links-113/comment-page-1/#comment-217452</link>
		<dc:creator>icr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 02:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As of this date no news stories show up on the Horiuchi-HS Precision connection save for the Nazi-leaning (literally) American Free Press. So much for both mainstream and &quot;conservative&quot; media. 

Leftists are economic nationalists, I don&#039;t see why you&#039;re surprised 
by the MJ article. Don&#039;t you recall Chucky Schumer (he had a perfect SAT score) trotting out Paul Craig Roberts (featured Counterpunch columnist) to denounce free trade?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As of this date no news stories show up on the Horiuchi-HS Precision connection save for the Nazi-leaning (literally) American Free Press. So much for both mainstream and &#8220;conservative&#8221; media. </p>
<p>Leftists are economic nationalists, I don&#8217;t see why you&#8217;re surprised<br />
by the MJ article. Don&#8217;t you recall Chucky Schumer (he had a perfect SAT score) trotting out Paul Craig Roberts (featured Counterpunch columnist) to denounce free trade?</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/01/morning-links-113/comment-page-1/#comment-213560</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslie Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re the lack of acorn production this fall. I live in SE Virginia and we had a bumper crop of acorns from our 3 pin oaks this season. You couldn&#039;t walk in the yard without stepping on them and getting hit in the noggin. Our neighborhood squirrels have had quite a feast!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re the lack of acorn production this fall. I live in SE Virginia and we had a bumper crop of acorns from our 3 pin oaks this season. You couldn&#8217;t walk in the yard without stepping on them and getting hit in the noggin. Our neighborhood squirrels have had quite a feast!</p>
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		<title>By: Mattocracy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/01/morning-links-113/comment-page-1/#comment-213549</link>
		<dc:creator>Mattocracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, these were the most bummer morning links ever.</description>
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		<title>By: GU</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/01/morning-links-113/comment-page-1/#comment-213525</link>
		<dc:creator>GU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is something about mixing the words &quot;sex&quot; and &quot;teenager&quot; that causes all the civilization in our society to vanish; it causes people to start grunting loudly, pounding their chests, and to dispose of rational thinking in favor of primal, ape-like instincts.  

I am not certain that &lt;i&gt;anyone&lt;/i&gt; should have their lives ruined for having consensual sex with a teenager, but I am damn sure that a sixteen year-old boy should not have his life taken away from him because he had sex with a 13 year-old girl (especially, but not only, since she lied about her age).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is something about mixing the words &#8220;sex&#8221; and &#8220;teenager&#8221; that causes all the civilization in our society to vanish; it causes people to start grunting loudly, pounding their chests, and to dispose of rational thinking in favor of primal, ape-like instincts.  </p>
<p>I am not certain that <i>anyone</i> should have their lives ruined for having consensual sex with a teenager, but I am damn sure that a sixteen year-old boy should not have his life taken away from him because he had sex with a 13 year-old girl (especially, but not only, since she lied about her age).</p>
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		<title>By: ClubMedSux</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/01/morning-links-113/comment-page-1/#comment-213441</link>
		<dc:creator>ClubMedSux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow... not much Bloody Mary love, I guess.  I don&#039;t have a recipe per se (I&#039;m a throw-a-little-of-this-throw-a-little-of-that kind of Bloody Mary mixer) but I will say that my one must-have ingredient is celery salt.  There are two things in this world that just aren&#039;t the same without celery salt sprinkled on top: hot dogs and Bloody Marys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; not much Bloody Mary love, I guess.  I don&#8217;t have a recipe per se (I&#8217;m a throw-a-little-of-this-throw-a-little-of-that kind of Bloody Mary mixer) but I will say that my one must-have ingredient is celery salt.  There are two things in this world that just aren&#8217;t the same without celery salt sprinkled on top: hot dogs and Bloody Marys.</p>
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		<title>By: Gonzo</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/01/morning-links-113/comment-page-1/#comment-213436</link>
		<dc:creator>Gonzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The issue seems to be less of one of hysteria over sex offenders, than one of making sure that people who are convicted of such crimes are actually guilty of harming someone else.&quot;

Did I miss an &quot;equals&quot; sign in there some place? The fact that we recognize it as hysteria seems to suggest that some people are not guilty, or are not as guilty, or some shade of grey, whereas the system only allows for black and white.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The issue seems to be less of one of hysteria over sex offenders, than one of making sure that people who are convicted of such crimes are actually guilty of harming someone else.&#8221;</p>
<p>Did I miss an &#8220;equals&#8221; sign in there some place? The fact that we recognize it as hysteria seems to suggest that some people are not guilty, or are not as guilty, or some shade of grey, whereas the system only allows for black and white.</p>
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		<title>By: perlhaqr</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/01/morning-links-113/comment-page-1/#comment-213427</link>
		<dc:creator>perlhaqr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The people in the sex crime article seem to be talking past one another.

The people who want these kids labelled as &quot;sex offenders&quot; are the ones who had a child who was actually sexually assaulted.  The ones who cry for lenience are the ones whose children were involved in consensual, yet still illegal sexual encounters.

The issue seems to be less of one of hysteria over sex offenders, than one of making sure that people who are convicted of such crimes are actually guilty of harming someone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people in the sex crime article seem to be talking past one another.</p>
<p>The people who want these kids labelled as &#8220;sex offenders&#8221; are the ones who had a child who was actually sexually assaulted.  The ones who cry for lenience are the ones whose children were involved in consensual, yet still illegal sexual encounters.</p>
<p>The issue seems to be less of one of hysteria over sex offenders, than one of making sure that people who are convicted of such crimes are actually guilty of harming someone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/01/morning-links-113/comment-page-1/#comment-213422</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prohibition wasn&#039;t a good time for the cocktail. There was a shift toward drinking spirits instead of beer and wine, but availability was poor and many of the best bartenders either left the business entirely or moved to Europe. The real bursts of creativity came in the 1870s as bartenders started playing with vermouth and up to the dawn of Prohibition. I believe you&#039;re right that more non-alcoholic mixers came into play during that era, but overall Prohibition was marked more by forgetting cocktail recipes than by creating them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prohibition wasn&#8217;t a good time for the cocktail. There was a shift toward drinking spirits instead of beer and wine, but availability was poor and many of the best bartenders either left the business entirely or moved to Europe. The real bursts of creativity came in the 1870s as bartenders started playing with vermouth and up to the dawn of Prohibition. I believe you&#8217;re right that more non-alcoholic mixers came into play during that era, but overall Prohibition was marked more by forgetting cocktail recipes than by creating them.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick T</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/01/morning-links-113/comment-page-1/#comment-213405</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the sex-offender article, some moron:

“There just is no higher purpose for government than keeping the public safe,”

Umm, no the highest purpose of government is to ensure liberty (and to follow the Constitution).  But hey, I had to dig that up in that old piece of crap, the Declaration of Independence, you, shmucky-politician-boy, probably know better. 

It is not in dispute that people who rape small (pre-pubescent)children are nearly always afflicted with a serious illness that makes the likelihood of reoffending off the charts unless properly monitored.  Logically, this justifies registries, online mug shots and ankle-monitors.  However, as was sadly inevitable, the tough-on-crime monkeys have extended this to apply to people that do completely normal things (or at worst show some poor judgment) that are frowned upon, but pose no increased risk of reoffending over any other person.   Of course those same monkeys have undermined any efforts for the public to understand that some (most) &quot;sex-offenders&quot; aren&#039;t &quot;kiddie diddlers.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the sex-offender article, some moron:</p>
<p>“There just is no higher purpose for government than keeping the public safe,”</p>
<p>Umm, no the highest purpose of government is to ensure liberty (and to follow the Constitution).  But hey, I had to dig that up in that old piece of crap, the Declaration of Independence, you, shmucky-politician-boy, probably know better. </p>
<p>It is not in dispute that people who rape small (pre-pubescent)children are nearly always afflicted with a serious illness that makes the likelihood of reoffending off the charts unless properly monitored.  Logically, this justifies registries, online mug shots and ankle-monitors.  However, as was sadly inevitable, the tough-on-crime monkeys have extended this to apply to people that do completely normal things (or at worst show some poor judgment) that are frowned upon, but pose no increased risk of reoffending over any other person.   Of course those same monkeys have undermined any efforts for the public to understand that some (most) &#8220;sex-offenders&#8221; aren&#8217;t &#8220;kiddie diddlers.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/01/morning-links-113/comment-page-1/#comment-213389</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t agree with the premise underlying the buying American article but it’s not “exceptionally stupid” by any means.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Are you joking?  Let me see, an article that violates two of the most well established and widely held views in economics, specialization of labor and comparative advantage.

There are two reasons we don&#039;t consume things only within a 20 mile radius (or even 200 miles) anymore and why such attempts to push us in that direction are stupid.

Seriously if this were a good idea why not let the states impose tariffs and trade restrictions on each other?  Why not let cities and counties do it?  It restricts trade, raises prices, and has negligible effect on employment.  Always has, most likely always will.

So, yeah its exceptionally stupid.

Oh and I bet the complete jackass that wrote that article bemoans the poverty in other countries.  Talk about needing a smack upside the head with a clue-by-four.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don’t agree with the premise underlying the buying American article but it’s not “exceptionally stupid” by any means.</p></blockquote>
<p>Are you joking?  Let me see, an article that violates two of the most well established and widely held views in economics, specialization of labor and comparative advantage.</p>
<p>There are two reasons we don&#8217;t consume things only within a 20 mile radius (or even 200 miles) anymore and why such attempts to push us in that direction are stupid.</p>
<p>Seriously if this were a good idea why not let the states impose tariffs and trade restrictions on each other?  Why not let cities and counties do it?  It restricts trade, raises prices, and has negligible effect on employment.  Always has, most likely always will.</p>
<p>So, yeah its exceptionally stupid.</p>
<p>Oh and I bet the complete jackass that wrote that article bemoans the poverty in other countries.  Talk about needing a smack upside the head with a clue-by-four.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/01/morning-links-113/comment-page-1/#comment-213387</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno, the Amber Alert law seems okay.  All it does is use various information systems. 

Of course, one problem is that police often ignore the guidelines in calling an Amber alert.  For example, issuing an Amber alert when it is a parent abduction in a custody dispute could often fail to meet all the criteria for calling an alert (one fo the criteria is that the child must be in imminent danger of death or injury).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno, the Amber Alert law seems okay.  All it does is use various information systems. </p>
<p>Of course, one problem is that police often ignore the guidelines in calling an Amber alert.  For example, issuing an Amber alert when it is a parent abduction in a custody dispute could often fail to meet all the criteria for calling an alert (one fo the criteria is that the child must be in imminent danger of death or injury).</p>
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		<title>By: thomasblair</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/01/morning-links-113/comment-page-1/#comment-213385</link>
		<dc:creator>thomasblair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: HS Precision Rifles&#039; use of Horiuchi&#039;s testimonial.

I couldn&#039;t find it on the site. Perhaps they&#039;ve taken it down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: HS Precision Rifles&#8217; use of Horiuchi&#8217;s testimonial.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t find it on the site. Perhaps they&#8217;ve taken it down.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/01/morning-links-113/comment-page-1/#comment-213378</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You can pretty well count on the fact that any law named for a kid who had something horrible happen to him is a ill-conceived piece of crap.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I can&#039;t remember if I saw it here or at Reason Hit &amp; Run, but I remember seeing a piece a month or two ago talking about how laws named after someone are almost universally bad (whether it be child or adult).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You can pretty well count on the fact that any law named for a kid who had something horrible happen to him is a ill-conceived piece of crap.</p></blockquote>
<p>I can&#8217;t remember if I saw it here or at Reason Hit &amp; Run, but I remember seeing a piece a month or two ago talking about how laws named after someone are almost universally bad (whether it be child or adult).</p>
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		<title>By: ktc2</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/01/morning-links-113/comment-page-1/#comment-213374</link>
		<dc:creator>ktc2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly our &quot;justice&quot; system allows a man who is found NOT GUILTY of charges to still be sentenced for them provided he is simultaneously convicted of another charge. This is truly a sick perverted system. Even if the jury does their job (occasionally it happens) the judge can still sentence him as if he were guilty of all charges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly our &#8220;justice&#8221; system allows a man who is found NOT GUILTY of charges to still be sentenced for them provided he is simultaneously convicted of another charge. This is truly a sick perverted system. Even if the jury does their job (occasionally it happens) the judge can still sentence him as if he were guilty of all charges.</p>
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		<title>By: tesla</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/01/morning-links-113/comment-page-1/#comment-213368</link>
		<dc:creator>tesla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t agree with the premise underlying the buying American article but it&#039;s not &quot;exceptionally stupid&quot; by any means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t agree with the premise underlying the buying American article but it&#8217;s not &#8220;exceptionally stupid&#8221; by any means.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Mother Jones&lt;/i&gt; = Economic idiocy.

For further evidence they employ Kevin Drum.  His forays into econo-blogging are simply excreable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Mother Jones</i> = Economic idiocy.</p>
<p>For further evidence they employ Kevin Drum.  His forays into econo-blogging are simply excreable.</p>
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		<title>By: Phelps</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phelps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to mention the Horiuchi / Waco connection as well.  I follow a lot of gunnie blogs, and you don&#039;t know the &lt;i&gt;half&lt;/i&gt; of the outrage.

And RE: Nando&#039;s comment, often the jury is just given the question of guilt or innocence, (and often under the instructions that they &lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; to convict if they find that the facts are A, B, and C) and the judge then sentences and decides if the person has to register.  Even then, the statutes don&#039;t always allow the judge the discretion -- if the jury found them guilty of a particular violation, then they have to register.  Period.

Remember, zero tolerance means zero thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to mention the Horiuchi / Waco connection as well.  I follow a lot of gunnie blogs, and you don&#8217;t know the <i>half</i> of the outrage.</p>
<p>And RE: Nando&#8217;s comment, often the jury is just given the question of guilt or innocence, (and often under the instructions that they <i>have</i> to convict if they find that the facts are A, B, and C) and the judge then sentences and decides if the person has to register.  Even then, the statutes don&#8217;t always allow the judge the discretion &#8212; if the jury found them guilty of a particular violation, then they have to register.  Period.</p>
<p>Remember, zero tolerance means zero thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Zeb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can pretty well count on the fact that any law named for a kid who had something horrible happen to him is a ill-conceived piece of crap.</description>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/12/01/morning-links-113/comment-page-1/#comment-213362</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The acid story makes me worry. We can not stop issues like this, and the government passing an &#039;internation violence against women&#039; thingy will not help.

One thing I can say is I can see myself, just for fun, torturing the ex-husband in this case for weeks on end. WTF is wrong with people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The acid story makes me worry. We can not stop issues like this, and the government passing an &#8216;internation violence against women&#8217; thingy will not help.</p>
<p>One thing I can say is I can see myself, just for fun, torturing the ex-husband in this case for weeks on end. WTF is wrong with people?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Horiuchi was also involved in the Waco incident whereby one FBI sniper initially made a statement that Horiuchi was firing and later on retracted the statement.  

Shell casings were found at Horiuchi&#039;s position but the investigation took the platform that it would be nearly impossible to match up to the rifle.  (of course, its perfectly okay to apply the same failed, unproven &quot;science&quot; on us, advertised as 100% effective in solving crimes when being sold to bill makers)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Horiuchi was also involved in the Waco incident whereby one FBI sniper initially made a statement that Horiuchi was firing and later on retracted the statement.  </p>
<p>Shell casings were found at Horiuchi&#8217;s position but the investigation took the platform that it would be nearly impossible to match up to the rifle.  (of course, its perfectly okay to apply the same failed, unproven &#8220;science&#8221; on us, advertised as 100% effective in solving crimes when being sold to bill makers)</p>
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