I Hope This Whole “Imprisoning People Without Evidence” Thing Doesn’t Make People Question the President’s Judgment!
Thursday, November 20th, 2008So I was browsing the reactions of a few conservative blogs to the Gitmo decision today, and found the predictable outrage that the court system would dare challenge the authority of the executive branch to snatch up people and detain people in overseas prisons without ever giving them a trial, possibly ever. What I didn’t find is much concern that the Bush administration has been wrong in a disturbing number of these cases about just how dangerous most of the Gitmo detainees really are—which you would think might raise the concern that a not insignificant number of them may actually be innocent.
National Review’s Andy McCarthy nearly gets there:
It seems pretty clear that the Bush administration did not help matters here. Nearly seven years ago, the President publicly claimed the Algerians were planning a bomb attack on the U.S. embassy in Sarajevo. Last month, however, the Justice Department suddenly informed the Court that it was no longer relying on that information. We’ve seen this sort of thing happen too many times over the last seven years…
…and? And the frequency of these mistakes should give us pause before placing all of our trust in the executive to detain people indefinitely on the basis of secret, unreviewable evidence? And the Bush administration should be ashamed of itself for exaggerating the actual evidence against some of these detainees in its efforts to drum up support for unlimited executive power? And it raises the shameful possibility that we may actually have kidnapped and arrested more than a few innocent people, and detained them for years?
No, no. None of that. McCarthy concludes….
…and the effect can only be to reduce the confidence of the court and the public that the government is in command of the relevant facts and can be trusted to make thoughtful decisions.
Ah yes. A Republican-appointed judge has reviewed his first six Gitmo cases, and found that in five of the six, the government not only didn’t have sufficient evidence to continue to hold the detainees, he ordered their release forthwith, and urged the government not to appeal his ruling. That’s a pretty resounding repudiation. And McCarthy’s reaction is, “Gee, I hope this doesn’t undermine the public’s faith in executive power!”
It damned-well ought to. Remember that last month, U.S. District Judge Ricardo M. Urbina ordered the release of 17 Chinese Uighurs, also after determining the government had no proof not only that they were enemy combatants, but that they were even a security risk (the government won on appeal, so the Uighurs are still at Gitmo). And as I wrote in a short piece for reason last year, an astonishingly high number of Gitmo detainees fall far short of the classification “the worst of the worst,” to use a favorite phrase of the Bush administration and its allies.
In May 2003, Guantanamo held 680 prisoners, the highest number to date. About half have since been released. The Bush administration has claimed the prisoners at the camp represent the “worst of the worst” terrorist threats to the U.S. But when the Seton Hall law professor Mark Denbeaux and the defense attorney Joshua Denbeaux analyzed information supplied by the Defense Department, they found that less than half the inmates were determined to have committed a hostile act against the United States or its allies. Only 8 percent are suspected to be Al Qaeda fighters.
Of the 385 still held at Guantanamo, the Pentagon plans to formally charge 60 to 80. To date, just two have been tried by a military tribunal, and only one, Australian David Hicks, has been convicted. He was sentenced to nine months in prison, which he was allowed to serve in Australia.
You can add to that Salim Hamdan, who was convicted in a military tribunal on minor counts of supporting terrorism. The government wanted 30 years to life. The tribunal judge gave him just five-and-a-half years, clearly a comment on the seriousness of crimes. He will soon be eligible for release, unless the government decides to continue to detain him, anyway.
Me, I look at all of this and I worry that we’ve given the executive way too much power, that they’re abusing that power, and that our government is arresting, detaining, and possibly torturing people who are either innocent, or clearly not a threat to the United States. McCarthy looks at all of this and worries that it might undermine the cause of continuing to give the executive unchecked power to keep people in prison indefinitely, no questions asked.
To which my response would be . . . one can only hope.
TheAgitator.com

Well, to err by throwing innocent people in prison rather than err by letting dangerous people go free sucks for those innocents, but it’s generally ok for the vast majority of americans. Same as the old “fighting them in Iraq so we don’t need to fight them here” strategy. Sucks if you’re Iraqi and your innocent civilians get blown up instead of innocent american civilians, but hey, suck it up.
#1: I really, really hope that was sarcasm. If it is, I apologize, but the past 8 years have kind of blurred the lines between sarcasm, satire, and what some people actually believe.
if these people live to be 70, they will have spent about 15 to 20% of their adult lives being humiliated, tortured, and detained by our government. I can’t miss 2 weeks of work without my world being in danger of caving in!
Our grandkids are gonna be asking us, ‘How could you let that happen?’
Well, we’ll be in for more fun times with executive abuse if Obama gets Eric Holder in his cabinet. I’m confused. How precisely was Obama supposed to be the lesser evil again? Good for you for voting your conscience for voting for Barr, but it’d be nice if you actually admitted that so far, you have been wrong about Obama actually showing any signs that he’d be a better President than McCain.
The President can always declare them Title I combatants and then order them shot for being spies captured out of uniform.
I was pretty sure that the Uighurs haven’t actually gotten an appeals court judgment, although their release was stayed pending appeal. So they haven’t lost yet, but they’re not out of the klink.
[...] Gitmo Decision Posted on November 21, 2008 by Sal Here’s Radley Balko’s piece. [...]
“Me, I look at all of this and I worry that we’ve given the executive way too much power…”
No need to worry, “we” didn’t do anything.
Ah, the ambiguous “we.” More Balko shorthand, I guess.
Those who hold power seize it. No one “gives” them anything.
For evidence of the above in current events, look no further than Yahoo:
Bush’s Last Rule-Making Hurrah
“With just 60 days left in his tenure, you might think that W.’s lame-duck administration was sitting around relieved that another guy was taking over, and Bush was counting the minutes until his flight leaves for Crawford.
Not quite.
Based on the flurry of quiet directives coming from the White House as the end of the term nears, it looks like the Bush goose (or is it turducken?) isn’t quite cooked yet.
In what has become a kind of presidential right-of-passage, the president (or really, the federal agencies that answer to him) has been pushing through a series of last-minute regulations that have the force of law. Everything from pollution controls to family-leave standards can be set by these rules.”
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One can always identify power — it is that which you are powerless against.