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	<title>Comments on: Puppycide in Pittsburgh</title>
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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: the friendly grizzly</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/17/puppycide-in-pittsburgh/comment-page-1/#comment-208590</link>
		<dc:creator>the friendly grizzly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#44 Helmut: let me ask this.  WHO will do that psychological examination of the officer who shoots animals for sport or who over-reacts?  Would it be a shrink employed by the police department? Possibly one assigned to &quot;internal affairs&quot;?  If either or both of these questions are answered in the affirmative, what good does any of it do from the standpoint of the public?  All we&#039;d get is another decent interval for things to quiet down, the officer would be exonerated, and maybe even get a medal.

For the record I have never been arrested.  But I grew up in Los Angeles, and most of my friends either had parents who lived through 1930s Germany, or who had themselves gotten out of Hungary in 1957.  I heard their stories and advice. I have had LEOs for neighbors. Combining all this together has led me to have a very strong sense of distrust for law enforcement officers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#44 Helmut: let me ask this.  WHO will do that psychological examination of the officer who shoots animals for sport or who over-reacts?  Would it be a shrink employed by the police department? Possibly one assigned to &#8220;internal affairs&#8221;?  If either or both of these questions are answered in the affirmative, what good does any of it do from the standpoint of the public?  All we&#8217;d get is another decent interval for things to quiet down, the officer would be exonerated, and maybe even get a medal.</p>
<p>For the record I have never been arrested.  But I grew up in Los Angeles, and most of my friends either had parents who lived through 1930s Germany, or who had themselves gotten out of Hungary in 1957.  I heard their stories and advice. I have had LEOs for neighbors. Combining all this together has led me to have a very strong sense of distrust for law enforcement officers.</p>
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		<title>By: OneByTheCee</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/17/puppycide-in-pittsburgh/comment-page-1/#comment-208063</link>
		<dc:creator>OneByTheCee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. O&#039;Hooligan (#44)

Your comment to Frank (#33):

&quot;... but I’m pretty sure people who don’t like Radley read this and they would just love to post your sadistic (and irrelevant) comments to prove what a “dangerous radical” Radley is.&quot;

I think this is especially true in light of Officer Ken Corbutt&#039;s enraged reply to the National Review article regarding the Chavo raid.  

As I am sure you&#039;re aware, Corbutt contemptously mentioned Mr. Balko in his letter: 
“... This incident should not be considered overkill (to take a word from Reason&#039;s Radley Balko), but sound police tactics.”

And this was followed up with Mr. Balko&#039;s scathing response to Corbutt, that of which I wholeheartedly agree.

However, I sometimes can&#039;t help but feel concern for Mr. Balko&#039;s safety/wellbeing/freedom=exorbitant attorneys fees!  Truly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. O&#8217;Hooligan (#44)</p>
<p>Your comment to Frank (#33):</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; but I’m pretty sure people who don’t like Radley read this and they would just love to post your sadistic (and irrelevant) comments to prove what a “dangerous radical” Radley is.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think this is especially true in light of Officer Ken Corbutt&#8217;s enraged reply to the National Review article regarding the Chavo raid.  </p>
<p>As I am sure you&#8217;re aware, Corbutt contemptously mentioned Mr. Balko in his letter:<br />
“&#8230; This incident should not be considered overkill (to take a word from Reason&#8217;s Radley Balko), but sound police tactics.”</p>
<p>And this was followed up with Mr. Balko&#8217;s scathing response to Corbutt, that of which I wholeheartedly agree.</p>
<p>However, I sometimes can&#8217;t help but feel concern for Mr. Balko&#8217;s safety/wellbeing/freedom=exorbitant attorneys fees!  Truly.</p>
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		<title>By: Helmut O' Hooligan</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/17/puppycide-in-pittsburgh/comment-page-1/#comment-207950</link>
		<dc:creator>Helmut O' Hooligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 05:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Radley: I was wondering if you&#039;ve ever considered compiling these &quot;puppycide&quot; incidents into a study similar to &quot;Overkill&quot; (perhaps not as lengthy).  I see that study cited regularly by people who wish to promote sane drug policy or less militaristic policing.  I have recommended it to others on multiple occasions.  Perhaps a &quot;puppycide&quot; study, or a series in Reason would get some attention, and lead to some changes in police training/accountability.  It would be sure to get the attention of a dog-loving public.  Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radley: I was wondering if you&#8217;ve ever considered compiling these &#8220;puppycide&#8221; incidents into a study similar to &#8220;Overkill&#8221; (perhaps not as lengthy).  I see that study cited regularly by people who wish to promote sane drug policy or less militaristic policing.  I have recommended it to others on multiple occasions.  Perhaps a &#8220;puppycide&#8221; study, or a series in Reason would get some attention, and lead to some changes in police training/accountability.  It would be sure to get the attention of a dog-loving public.  Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Helmut O' Hooligan</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/17/puppycide-in-pittsburgh/comment-page-1/#comment-207912</link>
		<dc:creator>Helmut O' Hooligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 03:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#33 Frank:
Back to your old tricks again, eh Frank.  I know I should be ignoring you, but I&#039;m pretty sure people who don&#039;t like Radley read this and they would just love to post your sadistic (and irrelevant) comments to prove what a &quot;dangerous radical&quot; Radley is. Or perhaps that&#039;s the point.  A little secret that activists learned during the sixties was that those who most vociferously advocated violence and destruction were often undercover agents from law enforcement or military intelligence units.  Am I getting warmer? Ok, even if you aren&#039;t an &quot;agent provacateur,&quot; your posts demonstrate an unhealthy infatuation with mutilation and menacing people with firearms.  My guess is that you probably would never have the balls and would have to hire someone to do your dirty work.  After working in the field of public safety for a number of years, I have developed a folksy little saying: &quot;the more you talk, the harder you ain&#039;t.&quot;  You betcha, Hannibal.    

Oh, and I know you&#039;ve used that cute little &quot;nits make lice&quot; comment before.  You didn&#039;t stop, even though people have advised you that that phrase is connected to a massacre of American Indians (http://www.jstor.org/pss/1354592--just one of many sources).  Aside from the historical connotations, I have LEO&#039;s in my family, so naturally I resent your guilt by association tactics and your bigotry.  But you are a small, cowardly man who would never repeat these statements to my face, so I&#039;ll move on.

I too am worried about the &quot;puppycide&quot; trend in law enforcement and I think it is obvious that these officers need more training in this area, since animal calls are not uncommon, and since officers frequently encounter pets at crime scenes.  Police officers don&#039;t need to be animal control officers, but a decent block of training in the academy, perhaps taught by animal control or a vet might be a positive step.  There the officers can learn from experts how to tell when a dog is playing, and when a dog is about to attack.  Officers that overreact or make a sport of this should be fired, charged with cruelty to animals and possibly subjected to psychological examinations.  See Frank, those are practical solutions.  They tend to be more useful than stupid remarks and anonymous threats.  I respect your right to free speech, even if it is drivel.  But I don&#039;t respect the moral authority of anyone who gleefully uses quotes associated with an episode of genocide, yet presents himself as some kind of revolutionary.  You add nothing to this forum! Never have and never will.  I learn nothing from you, and judging from your karma scores (probably not too scientific, I know), you only get the dim wits excited.  Can&#039;t you find a good anti-intellectual blog to visit.  It only takes a couple turds to stink up a good forum such as the Agitator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#33 Frank:<br />
Back to your old tricks again, eh Frank.  I know I should be ignoring you, but I&#8217;m pretty sure people who don&#8217;t like Radley read this and they would just love to post your sadistic (and irrelevant) comments to prove what a &#8220;dangerous radical&#8221; Radley is. Or perhaps that&#8217;s the point.  A little secret that activists learned during the sixties was that those who most vociferously advocated violence and destruction were often undercover agents from law enforcement or military intelligence units.  Am I getting warmer? Ok, even if you aren&#8217;t an &#8220;agent provacateur,&#8221; your posts demonstrate an unhealthy infatuation with mutilation and menacing people with firearms.  My guess is that you probably would never have the balls and would have to hire someone to do your dirty work.  After working in the field of public safety for a number of years, I have developed a folksy little saying: &#8220;the more you talk, the harder you ain&#8217;t.&#8221;  You betcha, Hannibal.    </p>
<p>Oh, and I know you&#8217;ve used that cute little &#8220;nits make lice&#8221; comment before.  You didn&#8217;t stop, even though people have advised you that that phrase is connected to a massacre of American Indians (<a href="http://www.jstor.org/pss/1354592--just" rel="nofollow">http://www.jstor.org/pss/1354592&#8211;just</a> one of many sources).  Aside from the historical connotations, I have LEO&#8217;s in my family, so naturally I resent your guilt by association tactics and your bigotry.  But you are a small, cowardly man who would never repeat these statements to my face, so I&#8217;ll move on.</p>
<p>I too am worried about the &#8220;puppycide&#8221; trend in law enforcement and I think it is obvious that these officers need more training in this area, since animal calls are not uncommon, and since officers frequently encounter pets at crime scenes.  Police officers don&#8217;t need to be animal control officers, but a decent block of training in the academy, perhaps taught by animal control or a vet might be a positive step.  There the officers can learn from experts how to tell when a dog is playing, and when a dog is about to attack.  Officers that overreact or make a sport of this should be fired, charged with cruelty to animals and possibly subjected to psychological examinations.  See Frank, those are practical solutions.  They tend to be more useful than stupid remarks and anonymous threats.  I respect your right to free speech, even if it is drivel.  But I don&#8217;t respect the moral authority of anyone who gleefully uses quotes associated with an episode of genocide, yet presents himself as some kind of revolutionary.  You add nothing to this forum! Never have and never will.  I learn nothing from you, and judging from your karma scores (probably not too scientific, I know), you only get the dim wits excited.  Can&#8217;t you find a good anti-intellectual blog to visit.  It only takes a couple turds to stink up a good forum such as the Agitator.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to ask this question: What would the founding fathers as a whole say about this incident? We (at least on this forum) all know the answer to that question. They would clearly rule against the officer. They would say that this type of issue is the reason why they became revolutionaries in the first place.  Property rights must be respected!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to ask this question: What would the founding fathers as a whole say about this incident? We (at least on this forum) all know the answer to that question. They would clearly rule against the officer. They would say that this type of issue is the reason why they became revolutionaries in the first place.  Property rights must be respected!</p>
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		<title>By: smurfy</title>
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		<dc:creator>smurfy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well Marty I was thinking more along the lines of actual meaningful consequences for someone who uses poor judgement and shoots an invalid target. But can you blame an individual if he is taught that a teathered dog is a valid target? 

One of the meter readers I work with told me she carries a pocket full of dog bisquits when she has to go into back yards for a meter disconecct or a manual read. When you know you don&#039;t have the authority to shoot the dog, you find other ways to make it work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well Marty I was thinking more along the lines of actual meaningful consequences for someone who uses poor judgement and shoots an invalid target. But can you blame an individual if he is taught that a teathered dog is a valid target? </p>
<p>One of the meter readers I work with told me she carries a pocket full of dog bisquits when she has to go into back yards for a meter disconecct or a manual read. When you know you don&#8217;t have the authority to shoot the dog, you find other ways to make it work.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RESENTMENT ... what a douche.  He&#039;s as much a cold blooded murdered for harboring these feelings of WANTING to kill someone.  To call it a WARRIOR mentality is barbaric and grossly disturbing at how easily he excuses his desire to kill with a tripe argument.

I wonder how many people this douche has killed in his lifetime, in and out of work, how many he has &quot;machoed&quot; and tormented, how many he has bullied, etc.  But it&#039;s all okay, because he has a WARRIOR mentality.  Citizen Nothings like you and I won&#039;t understand, therefore we can&#039;t judge it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RESENTMENT &#8230; what a douche.  He&#8217;s as much a cold blooded murdered for harboring these feelings of WANTING to kill someone.  To call it a WARRIOR mentality is barbaric and grossly disturbing at how easily he excuses his desire to kill with a tripe argument.</p>
<p>I wonder how many people this douche has killed in his lifetime, in and out of work, how many he has &#8220;machoed&#8221; and tormented, how many he has bullied, etc.  But it&#8217;s all okay, because he has a WARRIOR mentality.  Citizen Nothings like you and I won&#8217;t understand, therefore we can&#8217;t judge it.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynical in CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynical in CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Warrior&quot; = &quot;standard-issue street soldiers&quot; as spoken by Henry Rollins in the film &quot;The Chase.&quot;

Perfect parody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Warrior&#8221; = &#8220;standard-issue street soldiers&#8221; as spoken by Henry Rollins in the film &#8220;The Chase.&#8221;</p>
<p>Perfect parody.</p>
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		<title>By: OneByTheCee</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/17/puppycide-in-pittsburgh/comment-page-1/#comment-207672</link>
		<dc:creator>OneByTheCee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read specifically the portion of the article under the title RESENTMENT and note the use of the word &quot;warrior&quot;:

http://www.lawofficer.com/news-and-articles/columns/Baker/active_shooter.html


I guess LEO hate to waste all that training.

Just sayin&#039;....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read specifically the portion of the article under the title RESENTMENT and note the use of the word &#8220;warrior&#8221;:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lawofficer.com/news-and-articles/columns/Baker/active_shooter.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lawofficer.com/news-and-articles/columns/Baker/active_shooter.html</a></p>
<p>I guess LEO hate to waste all that training.</p>
<p>Just sayin&#8217;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jefferson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jefferson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A classic.</description>
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		<title>By: Cynical in CA</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/17/puppycide-in-pittsburgh/comment-page-1/#comment-207658</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynical in CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jefferson, ask and ye shall receive.

Of course, it could be argued that this bunny actually deserved his fate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcxKIJTb3Hg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jefferson, ask and ye shall receive.</p>
<p>Of course, it could be argued that this bunny actually deserved his fate.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcxKIJTb3Hg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcxKIJTb3Hg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jefferson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jefferson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done, Cynical. Now find me a bunnycide. If there isn&#039;t one, we shouldn&#039;t have to wait long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done, Cynical. Now find me a bunnycide. If there isn&#8217;t one, we shouldn&#8217;t have to wait long.</p>
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		<title>By: perlhaqr</title>
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		<dc:creator>perlhaqr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ktc2: And should the dog owner prove infirm or otherwise incapable, they should be allowed to outsource to the place kicker for the local football team.

smurfy: http://www.elfie.org/~croaker/lamplugh.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ktc2: And should the dog owner prove infirm or otherwise incapable, they should be allowed to outsource to the place kicker for the local football team.</p>
<p>smurfy: <a href="http://www.elfie.org/~croaker/lamplugh.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.elfie.org/~croaker/lamplugh.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: OneByTheCee</title>
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		<dc:creator>OneByTheCee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand why the police won&#039;t rely on their tasers or pepper spray.  

If it&#039;s good enough for the thousands of people who have experienced the &quot;joys of being tasered or sprayed&quot; then why not for canines?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why the police won&#8217;t rely on their tasers or pepper spray.  </p>
<p>If it&#8217;s good enough for the thousands of people who have experienced the &#8220;joys of being tasered or sprayed&#8221; then why not for canines?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#19  A good idea that doesn&#039;t go far enough.  Trees and tie-up, check.  But the cop gets tied up sans pants and the owner gets a rusty pocket knife to perform a double orchidectomy without anesthesia or antisepsis.  Since the underlying cause is testosterone poisoning, the solution is to remove the production organs.  Painfully.

And the cops had better be grateful that I&#039;m not requiring their offspring to be spayed and neutered in a like manner.  Nits make lice, you know.

#21  I think we should start with &quot;kill a dog, kill the cop&quot; politics.  This is getting out of hand, and the only way to get a cop&#039;s attention these days is to have Dr. Guillotine teach him the error of his ways.  A 12-gauge shotgun in a cop&#039;s mouth will do wonders for focusing his attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#19  A good idea that doesn&#8217;t go far enough.  Trees and tie-up, check.  But the cop gets tied up sans pants and the owner gets a rusty pocket knife to perform a double orchidectomy without anesthesia or antisepsis.  Since the underlying cause is testosterone poisoning, the solution is to remove the production organs.  Painfully.</p>
<p>And the cops had better be grateful that I&#8217;m not requiring their offspring to be spayed and neutered in a like manner.  Nits make lice, you know.</p>
<p>#21  I think we should start with &#8220;kill a dog, kill the cop&#8221; politics.  This is getting out of hand, and the only way to get a cop&#8217;s attention these days is to have Dr. Guillotine teach him the error of his ways.  A 12-gauge shotgun in a cop&#8217;s mouth will do wonders for focusing his attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Bowers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon Bowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Mangans said they aren&#039;t sure if they will get Lincoln back to give him a private burial.&quot;

Who took the dog?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Mangans said they aren&#8217;t sure if they will get Lincoln back to give him a private burial.&#8221;</p>
<p>Who took the dog?</p>
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		<title>By: Cynical in CA</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/17/puppycide-in-pittsburgh/comment-page-1/#comment-207514</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynical in CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Anyone come accross a case of kittycide yet?&quot;

Ask and ye shall receive, Smurfy.

March 26th, 2008

http://www.zootoo.com/petnews/pacopshootskillscat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Anyone come accross a case of kittycide yet?&#8221;</p>
<p>Ask and ye shall receive, Smurfy.</p>
<p>March 26th, 2008</p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/17/puppycide-in-pittsburgh/comment-page-1/#comment-207494</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>smurfy, your video game analogy is pretty fascinating-the way I&#039;m reading it, it argues for limits against govt force instead of limits against personal freedoms. intriguing.

I looked up &#039;police dog shooting&#039; on youtube and found tons of hits. unbelievable. lots of tragic, unnecessary dog shootings, but a couple terrifying videos of cops being attacked, where they HAD to defend themselves. hats off to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>smurfy, your video game analogy is pretty fascinating-the way I&#8217;m reading it, it argues for limits against govt force instead of limits against personal freedoms. intriguing.</p>
<p>I looked up &#8216;police dog shooting&#8217; on youtube and found tons of hits. unbelievable. lots of tragic, unnecessary dog shootings, but a couple terrifying videos of cops being attacked, where they HAD to defend themselves. hats off to them.</p>
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		<title>By: smurfy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/17/puppycide-in-pittsburgh/comment-page-1/#comment-207452</link>
		<dc:creator>smurfy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone come accross a case of kittycide yet? Seems like the logical ends to this sort of thing, except that it surely won&#039;t end there. 

It all reminds me of those gun video games at the arcade. You blast your way through hostile territory and if you happen to hit one of the innocent bystanders along the way, no big deal you just lose a couple points. &quot;Life goes on.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone come accross a case of kittycide yet? Seems like the logical ends to this sort of thing, except that it surely won&#8217;t end there. </p>
<p>It all reminds me of those gun video games at the arcade. You blast your way through hostile territory and if you happen to hit one of the innocent bystanders along the way, no big deal you just lose a couple points. &#8220;Life goes on.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Cynical in CA</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/17/puppycide-in-pittsburgh/comment-page-1/#comment-207441</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynical in CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Knuckleheads = dog killers (and human killers too!) :(

Trying to implement?  You&#039;re darn tootin&#039; -- I&#039;m too lazy.  But not lazy enough to start a healthy philosophical dialogue.

An interesting discussion would be exploring what constitutes legitimate self-defense, regarding moral use of force.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knuckleheads = dog killers (and human killers too!) :(</p>
<p>Trying to implement?  You&#8217;re darn tootin&#8217; &#8212; I&#8217;m too lazy.  But not lazy enough to start a healthy philosophical dialogue.</p>
<p>An interesting discussion would be exploring what constitutes legitimate self-defense, regarding moral use of force.</p>
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