Comments on: The Drug War Corrupts http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/15/the-drug-war-corrupts/ It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:28:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2 By: Light http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/15/the-drug-war-corrupts/comment-page-1/#comment-207542 Light Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:06:03 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=11103#comment-207542 Tar and Feathers! Tar and Feathers!

]]> By: Cynical in CA http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/15/the-drug-war-corrupts/comment-page-1/#comment-207383 Cynical in CA Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:19:00 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=11103#comment-207383 "dishonest and corrupt are quite different." Dishonesty is a subclass of corruption. In that way, dishonesty is as different from corruption as oranges are from citrus fruit. Not much of a difference after all, mdh. “dishonest and corrupt are quite different.”

Dishonesty is a subclass of corruption. In that way, dishonesty is as different from corruption as oranges are from citrus fruit.

Not much of a difference after all, mdh.

]]> By: Cynical in CA http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/15/the-drug-war-corrupts/comment-page-1/#comment-207382 Cynical in CA Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:16:26 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=11103#comment-207382 "cynical, only the corrupt assume that everyone else is." mdh, it is power, or the exercise thereof, that is corrupt. Individuals do not exercise power in every situation. In situations where individuals cooperate voluntarily with each other, there is no corruption. However, in situations where power is exercised it is ALWAYS corrupt. It is the height of honesty for me to admit that when I exercise power, when I resort to the use of force, I am being corrupt. Anyone who doesn't admit the darker side of his or her nature is in denial. Denial does not change reality and it creates more harm. “cynical, only the corrupt assume that everyone else is.”

mdh, it is power, or the exercise thereof, that is corrupt. Individuals do not exercise power in every situation. In situations where individuals cooperate voluntarily with each other, there is no corruption. However, in situations where power is exercised it is ALWAYS corrupt.

It is the height of honesty for me to admit that when I exercise power, when I resort to the use of force, I am being corrupt. Anyone who doesn’t admit the darker side of his or her nature is in denial. Denial does not change reality and it creates more harm.

]]> By: Red Green http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/15/the-drug-war-corrupts/comment-page-1/#comment-207318 Red Green Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:32:12 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=11103#comment-207318 Muncie IN. is not that far from Lima OH., and we all know how Lima handles the law. Whats going on in the midwest? Muncie IN. is not that far from Lima OH., and we all know how Lima handles the law. Whats going on in the midwest?

]]> By: max http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/15/the-drug-war-corrupts/comment-page-1/#comment-207107 max Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:47:04 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=11103#comment-207107 Not quite as impressive as McKinny's abandoned property scheme but still nice. If you missed it, that other deal was to have property in police evidence lockup pending a forfeiture hearing declared abandoned and the seized as abandoned when the owner didn't show up to contest it (because the owner was in jail). Not quite as impressive as McKinny’s abandoned property scheme but still nice. If you missed it, that other deal was to have property in police evidence lockup pending a forfeiture hearing declared abandoned and the seized as abandoned when the owner didn’t show up to contest it (because the owner was in jail).

]]> By: mdh http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/15/the-drug-war-corrupts/comment-page-1/#comment-206997 mdh Mon, 17 Nov 2008 02:39:58 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=11103#comment-206997 dishonest and corrupt are quite different. dishonest and corrupt are quite different.

]]> By: seeker6079 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/15/the-drug-war-corrupts/comment-page-1/#comment-206926 seeker6079 Mon, 17 Nov 2008 00:26:16 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=11103#comment-206926 Any repeat any repeat ANY law enforcement mechanism which operates as a revenue generator is going to undermine respect for the law and create a temptation to apply the law excessively harshly and/or a temptation to wet one's beak (or one's department's beak). Any repeat any repeat ANY law enforcement mechanism which operates as a revenue generator is going to undermine respect for the law and create a temptation to apply the law excessively harshly and/or a temptation to wet one’s beak (or one’s department’s beak).

]]> By: JCoke http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/15/the-drug-war-corrupts/comment-page-1/#comment-206841 JCoke Sun, 16 Nov 2008 21:55:49 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=11103#comment-206841 Fight on, fight on, dear old Muncie/Fight on, hoist the gold and blue/You'll be tattered, torn, and hurten/Once the Munce is done with you/Go... Eagles! Fight on, fight on, dear old Muncie/Fight on, hoist the gold and blue/You’ll be tattered, torn, and hurten/Once the Munce is done with you/Go… Eagles!

]]> By: Michael Chaney http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/15/the-drug-war-corrupts/comment-page-1/#comment-206824 Michael Chaney Sun, 16 Nov 2008 19:59:24 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=11103#comment-206824 The problem is that the victims are politically powerless in asset forfeiture cases. It's amazing these people were caught. The problem is that the victims are politically powerless in asset forfeiture cases. It’s amazing these people were caught.

]]> By: SJE http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/15/the-drug-war-corrupts/comment-page-1/#comment-206814 SJE Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:44:37 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=11103#comment-206814 Come now Radley! Are you saying that drug enforcement activities might be associated with corruption? With all the new professionalism in our police force, surely this was just one rotten apple. There was almost no corruption during alcohol prohibition, so this must be an isolated incident. Come now Radley! Are you saying that drug enforcement activities might be associated with corruption? With all the new professionalism in our police force, surely this was just one rotten apple. There was almost no corruption during alcohol prohibition, so this must be an isolated incident.

]]> By: John Wilburn http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/15/the-drug-war-corrupts/comment-page-1/#comment-206812 John Wilburn Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:37:28 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=11103#comment-206812 mdh, what's even worse, and more terrifying, is that those who are honest, assume that everyone else is... mdh, what’s even worse, and more terrifying, is that those who are honest, assume that everyone else is…

]]> By: mdh http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/15/the-drug-war-corrupts/comment-page-1/#comment-206796 mdh Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:02:43 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=11103#comment-206796 cynical, only the corrupt assume that everyone else is. cynical, only the corrupt assume that everyone else is.

]]> By: Cynical in CA http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/15/the-drug-war-corrupts/comment-page-1/#comment-206778 Cynical in CA Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:38:52 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=11103#comment-206778 It is cliche that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. But in reality, power is always absolutely corrupt. Thus, absolute vs. non-absolute power is a distinction without a difference. Power and corruption are two sides of the same equation. More accurate to say, "Power is corrupt and tends toward absolutes." It is the State that amplifies power, and thus, corruption. Disperse power to every individual and the corruption remains, but without the amplification. Criminals like McKinney would be simply criminals instead of prosecutorially-immune criminals, and thus much easier to deal with. It is cliche that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

But in reality, power is always absolutely corrupt. Thus, absolute vs. non-absolute power is a distinction without a difference. Power and corruption are two sides of the same equation.

More accurate to say, “Power is corrupt and tends toward absolutes.”

It is the State that amplifies power, and thus, corruption. Disperse power to every individual and the corruption remains, but without the amplification. Criminals like McKinney would be simply criminals instead of prosecutorially-immune criminals, and thus much easier to deal with.

]]> By: Marty http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/15/the-drug-war-corrupts/comment-page-1/#comment-206767 Marty Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:39:19 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=11103#comment-206767 there's an asset forfeiture scam unraveling here in St. Louis, too. I think this nonsense is just the way it is, because there doesn't seem to be any disgust or outrage in the general population. maybe the guys saying public schools are a conspiracy to dumb down the population and implement a fascist govt are on to something! there’s an asset forfeiture scam unraveling here in St. Louis, too. I think this nonsense is just the way it is, because there doesn’t seem to be any disgust or outrage in the general population.
maybe the guys saying public schools are a conspiracy to dumb down the population and implement a fascist govt are on to something!

]]> By: Bernard http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/15/the-drug-war-corrupts/comment-page-1/#comment-206760 Bernard Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:57:31 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=11103#comment-206760 'May also face criminal charges' is hilarious, though in a sad way. ‘May also face criminal charges’ is hilarious, though in a sad way.

]]> By: meg http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/15/the-drug-war-corrupts/comment-page-1/#comment-206743 meg Sun, 16 Nov 2008 12:57:57 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=11103#comment-206743 I'm looking forward to the next update! I’m looking forward to the next update!

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