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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/05/president-barack-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-202159</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 03:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the significance of the election of an African American is huge to most people, despite the fact that his views are immensely troubling. 

I think many people felt that race was a much smaller issue in America than it is often made to be, and that the nation is not racist in nature. There is still a too much racism out there on both sides of the aisle and among all races, but the country has moved way beyond the problems of the past. We have had African Americans at the top levels of the government, entertainment, business, and sports, and we all cheered them on. A great number of Americans were born well after the civil rights movement of the 60s and cannot even begin to fathom how our society could have conducted itself in that manner.

I wish the candidate that inspired the country this week had a different set of beliefs, but aside from that, it is a very important positive step in our history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the significance of the election of an African American is huge to most people, despite the fact that his views are immensely troubling. </p>
<p>I think many people felt that race was a much smaller issue in America than it is often made to be, and that the nation is not racist in nature. There is still a too much racism out there on both sides of the aisle and among all races, but the country has moved way beyond the problems of the past. We have had African Americans at the top levels of the government, entertainment, business, and sports, and we all cheered them on. A great number of Americans were born well after the civil rights movement of the 60s and cannot even begin to fathom how our society could have conducted itself in that manner.</p>
<p>I wish the candidate that inspired the country this week had a different set of beliefs, but aside from that, it is a very important positive step in our history.</p>
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		<title>By: Blagnet.net &#187; Race and Obama&#8217;s non-achievement</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blagnet.net &#187; Race and Obama&#8217;s non-achievement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 23:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] semi-libertarian Radley Balko&#8217;s commentary on President-elect Obama&#8217;s achievement:  Tonight, we took a huge step toward putting race [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Chaney</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/05/president-barack-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-201029</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Chaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 03:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, John, the DJIA dropped 486 points today - the biggest post-election drop in history.  We know what Wall Street thinks of Obama...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, John, the DJIA dropped 486 points today &#8211; the biggest post-election drop in history.  We know what Wall Street thinks of Obama&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mops</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/05/president-barack-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-200812</link>
		<dc:creator>Mops</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;we took a huge step toward putting race behind us by focusing on race?

I’m not following you, Radley.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Have you never looked in a rear-view mirror?  

What he means is, the race of the &lt;i&gt;next&lt;/i&gt; black present won&#039;t be given a second thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>we took a huge step toward putting race behind us by focusing on race?</p>
<p>I’m not following you, Radley.</p></blockquote>
<p>Have you never looked in a rear-view mirror?  </p>
<p>What he means is, the race of the <i>next</i> black present won&#8217;t be given a second thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Mops</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/05/president-barack-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-200808</link>
		<dc:creator>Mops</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears the people most surprised by our electing a black man are the ones whose abysmal opinion of Americans holds them to be a bunch of raving, closeted racists.

I&#039;m reminded of Halle Berry&#039;s self-serving Oscar acceptance speech from several years back.  She gushed about how the award represented a truly important milestone in the history of cinema, how the industry had finally acquired the courage to break down an enormous barrier.  

However, I don&#039;t believe the award was presented to a &lt;i&gt;race&lt;/i&gt;. It was awarded to a performance given by an individual actress during the right year against the right competition.  I feel the same applies to Obama&#039;s win.  America would have done this years ago if the right candidate (who happened to be black) had come along...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears the people most surprised by our electing a black man are the ones whose abysmal opinion of Americans holds them to be a bunch of raving, closeted racists.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m reminded of Halle Berry&#8217;s self-serving Oscar acceptance speech from several years back.  She gushed about how the award represented a truly important milestone in the history of cinema, how the industry had finally acquired the courage to break down an enormous barrier.  </p>
<p>However, I don&#8217;t believe the award was presented to a <i>race</i>. It was awarded to a performance given by an individual actress during the right year against the right competition.  I feel the same applies to Obama&#8217;s win.  America would have done this years ago if the right candidate (who happened to be black) had come along&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cynical In CA</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/05/president-barack-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-200807</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynical In CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Tonight, we took a huge step toward putting race behind us.&quot;

Apologies if anyone else posted this, but ...

we took a huge step toward putting race behind us by focusing on race?

I&#039;m not following you, Radley.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Tonight, we took a huge step toward putting race behind us.&#8221;</p>
<p>Apologies if anyone else posted this, but &#8230;</p>
<p>we took a huge step toward putting race behind us by focusing on race?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not following you, Radley.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/05/president-barack-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-200798</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just saddened that with 300+ million citizens in the USA, these two clowns were the best the two party system had to offer. What a choice, a RINO or a Marxist. I&#039;m not proud, I&#039;m disgusted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just saddened that with 300+ million citizens in the USA, these two clowns were the best the two party system had to offer. What a choice, a RINO or a Marxist. I&#8217;m not proud, I&#8217;m disgusted.</p>
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		<title>By: Mattocracy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/05/president-barack-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-200769</link>
		<dc:creator>Mattocracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I will say this so as not to be completely cynical.  People could have voted for Cynthia McKinney and she would have covered the first female and first african american president all in one go.  But thankfully, we didn&#039;t do that.  And although I disagree with Obama more that I agree with him, the same goes for McCain.  Would we really be in a better situation with McCain?  I think not.  All things considered, we could&#039;ve done worse.  We can predict all kinds of doom in the future because of the next president, but it won&#039;t be worse than the doom of the last 8.  I get some solace from that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I will say this so as not to be completely cynical.  People could have voted for Cynthia McKinney and she would have covered the first female and first african american president all in one go.  But thankfully, we didn&#8217;t do that.  And although I disagree with Obama more that I agree with him, the same goes for McCain.  Would we really be in a better situation with McCain?  I think not.  All things considered, we could&#8217;ve done worse.  We can predict all kinds of doom in the future because of the next president, but it won&#8217;t be worse than the doom of the last 8.  I get some solace from that.</p>
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		<title>By: Mattocracy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/05/president-barack-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-200761</link>
		<dc:creator>Mattocracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 48, I laughed so fucking hard at that comment I almost crapped my pants.  We&#039;re so concerned about putting race behind us that we forgot we still have sexism to look forward to!

Some of us are proud of what happened last night, some of us are ashamed.  Either way, things are far from ideal.  Like so many other commentators above, I can&#039;t get excited about a huge step forward in race relations when it is offset by a huge step back in individual liberty.

Before Obama is anything, he is a politician.  All politicans look the same on the inside.  They are souless, twisted and evil.  Why would anyone be excited about the first african american tyrant or the first female tyrant or the first gay tyrant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 48, I laughed so fucking hard at that comment I almost crapped my pants.  We&#8217;re so concerned about putting race behind us that we forgot we still have sexism to look forward to!</p>
<p>Some of us are proud of what happened last night, some of us are ashamed.  Either way, things are far from ideal.  Like so many other commentators above, I can&#8217;t get excited about a huge step forward in race relations when it is offset by a huge step back in individual liberty.</p>
<p>Before Obama is anything, he is a politician.  All politicans look the same on the inside.  They are souless, twisted and evil.  Why would anyone be excited about the first african american tyrant or the first female tyrant or the first gay tyrant?</p>
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		<title>By: Ashton</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/05/president-barack-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-200757</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed. I was listening to NPR on the way back from San Francisco (to party) and several of the callers during the morning just called to their story of racism in the US, and how much this meant to them. The conviction in their voices had me tearing me.

Be as cynical as you want: Barack Obama is living proof of the American dream. If a biracial, single parent kid from Hawaii can be President, then so can you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. I was listening to NPR on the way back from San Francisco (to party) and several of the callers during the morning just called to their story of racism in the US, and how much this meant to them. The conviction in their voices had me tearing me.</p>
<p>Be as cynical as you want: Barack Obama is living proof of the American dream. If a biracial, single parent kid from Hawaii can be President, then so can you.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/05/president-barack-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-200727</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow... incredible.  

I believe I am on the same page as Radley here and can&#039;t believe the warped perspective many of you are bringing to this simple post!

Nobody is claiming that racism is behind us (that is obvious by these postings)!  But to say that there is nothing in an Obama win to be proud of with regards to the progress made in the area of race and discrimination is just simply asinine.  And the reason being given that &quot;because we&#039;re mentioning race&quot; there is nothing to be proud of because we&#039;re obviously &quot;not past it&quot;....

C&#039;MON!  So we couldn&#039;t be proud of desegregation because we were mentioning race?  Couldn&#039;t be proud of women gaining the right to vote because we mentioned that it was women?

I think it is those of you that get upset reading about the first black president and claim that it&#039;s wrong because we&#039;re labeling him as &quot;black&quot; have a race issue that needs analyzed!  But hey, we didn&#039;t comment on GWB being WHITE and making a big deal of it... of course not, because he was the FORTY-SECOND white man IN A ROW!  

FIRSTS of their kind ARE SIGNIFICANT in that THEY ARE FIRSTS OF THEIR KIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

Why do some of you want to refuse to acknowledge that just because it is the first BLACK...yes, GET USED TO THE IDEA... BLACK PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!?!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; incredible.  </p>
<p>I believe I am on the same page as Radley here and can&#8217;t believe the warped perspective many of you are bringing to this simple post!</p>
<p>Nobody is claiming that racism is behind us (that is obvious by these postings)!  But to say that there is nothing in an Obama win to be proud of with regards to the progress made in the area of race and discrimination is just simply asinine.  And the reason being given that &#8220;because we&#8217;re mentioning race&#8221; there is nothing to be proud of because we&#8217;re obviously &#8220;not past it&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
<p>C&#8217;MON!  So we couldn&#8217;t be proud of desegregation because we were mentioning race?  Couldn&#8217;t be proud of women gaining the right to vote because we mentioned that it was women?</p>
<p>I think it is those of you that get upset reading about the first black president and claim that it&#8217;s wrong because we&#8217;re labeling him as &#8220;black&#8221; have a race issue that needs analyzed!  But hey, we didn&#8217;t comment on GWB being WHITE and making a big deal of it&#8230; of course not, because he was the FORTY-SECOND white man IN A ROW!  </p>
<p>FIRSTS of their kind ARE SIGNIFICANT in that THEY ARE FIRSTS OF THEIR KIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!  </p>
<p>Why do some of you want to refuse to acknowledge that just because it is the first BLACK&#8230;yes, GET USED TO THE IDEA&#8230; BLACK PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!?!!</p>
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		<title>By: FWB</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/05/president-barack-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-200713</link>
		<dc:creator>FWB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone that even remarks that by electing Obama we have put racism behind us is a closest racist.  We elected another man as president.  If one views him as a payoff for the past, as a fix for the wrongs, one is a racist.  Noting his differences only reinforces racism.

Want racism behind you?  Then look at people as people, not skin colors or ethnicity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone that even remarks that by electing Obama we have put racism behind us is a closest racist.  We elected another man as president.  If one views him as a payoff for the past, as a fix for the wrongs, one is a racist.  Noting his differences only reinforces racism.</p>
<p>Want racism behind you?  Then look at people as people, not skin colors or ethnicity.</p>
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		<title>By: TacticalJack</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/05/president-barack-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-200711</link>
		<dc:creator>TacticalJack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally !!  

Now the Republicans can demand an end to affirmative action and talks of reparations.  Obviously, with the overwhelming election of a black president -- the playing field has finally been proved to be level.

OK people, there is nothing to see here, lets just move along.

TJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally !!  </p>
<p>Now the Republicans can demand an end to affirmative action and talks of reparations.  Obviously, with the overwhelming election of a black president &#8212; the playing field has finally been proved to be level.</p>
<p>OK people, there is nothing to see here, lets just move along.</p>
<p>TJ</p>
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		<title>By: Former Army</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/05/president-barack-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-200708</link>
		<dc:creator>Former Army</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thousands of gay Californians just learning that their marriages may very well be over:

&quot;How did this happen? We voted for the Democrats! WE VOTED FOR THE DEMOCRATS!&quot;

To which thousands of minority voters reply:

&quot;So did we.&quot; 

Gotta love that first black president!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thousands of gay Californians just learning that their marriages may very well be over:</p>
<p>&#8220;How did this happen? We voted for the Democrats! WE VOTED FOR THE DEMOCRATS!&#8221;</p>
<p>To which thousands of minority voters reply:</p>
<p>&#8220;So did we.&#8221; </p>
<p>Gotta love that first black president!</p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Obama’s race is why many were weeping and celebrating last night. But his policies are why blacks voted for him.&#039;

I believe Obama won because he&#039;s running against the weakest incumbent/opponent he could&#039;ve hoped for, he&#039;s a very good speaker, he&#039;s good looking, and democrats think he&#039;s the ghost of Kennedy. 

Too many uneducated voters out there being guided to the polls by ACORN, rock stars, etc to have me believe they were voting for his policies.

The only policy many people seem to know is his policy of &#039;change&#039;.

Regardless of his race, he was clearly a better candidate than McCain and he deserved to win based on that, not his race.

Congratulations to Barack and I wish him the best of luck on a successful presidency,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Obama’s race is why many were weeping and celebrating last night. But his policies are why blacks voted for him.&#8217;</p>
<p>I believe Obama won because he&#8217;s running against the weakest incumbent/opponent he could&#8217;ve hoped for, he&#8217;s a very good speaker, he&#8217;s good looking, and democrats think he&#8217;s the ghost of Kennedy. </p>
<p>Too many uneducated voters out there being guided to the polls by ACORN, rock stars, etc to have me believe they were voting for his policies.</p>
<p>The only policy many people seem to know is his policy of &#8216;change&#8217;.</p>
<p>Regardless of his race, he was clearly a better candidate than McCain and he deserved to win based on that, not his race.</p>
<p>Congratulations to Barack and I wish him the best of luck on a successful presidency,</p>
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		<title>By: Salvo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salvo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proud. That is all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proud. That is all.</p>
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		<title>By: The_Chef</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/05/president-barack-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-200683</link>
		<dc:creator>The_Chef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Jesus. Older blacks have seen dogs and water hoses turned on civil rights protesters. They’ve lived through segregation, beatings, bombings, lynchings, and a justice system perpetually weighted against them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yup, and now those of us that believe in individualism get to have our doors kicked in by Federally funded thugs because we don&#039;t fit his idea for a &quot;better society&quot;.  I&#039;m placing my order for my AR-15 this week.  Let them try that retroactive gun ban. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;I find it amazing that you can’t even grant them the moment, here. To let them enjoy the sight of a black American president, when a generation ago, many blacks couldn’t even cast a vote without fear of violent retaliation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
And what about the reports of the Black Panthers keeping whites from voting eh?  

We&#039;ve not moved beyond race.  

And I say this as a pure blood capitalist, I don&#039;t care about white, black, yellow, red, or any other &quot;color&quot; associated ethnicity, I care about green.  I care about wealth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Jesus. Older blacks have seen dogs and water hoses turned on civil rights protesters. They’ve lived through segregation, beatings, bombings, lynchings, and a justice system perpetually weighted against them.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yup, and now those of us that believe in individualism get to have our doors kicked in by Federally funded thugs because we don&#8217;t fit his idea for a &#8220;better society&#8221;.  I&#8217;m placing my order for my AR-15 this week.  Let them try that retroactive gun ban. </p>
<blockquote><p>I find it amazing that you can’t even grant them the moment, here. To let them enjoy the sight of a black American president, when a generation ago, many blacks couldn’t even cast a vote without fear of violent retaliation.</p></blockquote>
<p>And what about the reports of the Black Panthers keeping whites from voting eh?  </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve not moved beyond race.  </p>
<p>And I say this as a pure blood capitalist, I don&#8217;t care about white, black, yellow, red, or any other &#8220;color&#8221; associated ethnicity, I care about green.  I care about wealth.</p>
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		<title>By: John Jenkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I find it amazing that you can’t even grant them the moment, here. To let them enjoy the sight of a black American president, when a generation ago, many blacks couldn’t even cast a vote without fear of violent retaliation.&quot;

That&#039;s a non-sequitur and you know it.  It&#039;s not within my power to grant or not grant anyone any moment.  If they choose to revel in the fact that the president is black, so be it.

I think they would be better off reveling in the facts that, unlike their parents (or maybe grandparents), they can vote, own property, go to the mall, sit at any table they damn well please, and go wherever they want without the vile specter of state-sponsored racism lording over them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I find it amazing that you can’t even grant them the moment, here. To let them enjoy the sight of a black American president, when a generation ago, many blacks couldn’t even cast a vote without fear of violent retaliation.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a non-sequitur and you know it.  It&#8217;s not within my power to grant or not grant anyone any moment.  If they choose to revel in the fact that the president is black, so be it.</p>
<p>I think they would be better off reveling in the facts that, unlike their parents (or maybe grandparents), they can vote, own property, go to the mall, sit at any table they damn well please, and go wherever they want without the vile specter of state-sponsored racism lording over them.</p>
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		<title>By: dsmallwood</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/05/president-barack-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-200677</link>
		<dc:creator>dsmallwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>race is big.  you can&#039;t &quot;put it behind you&quot; by just electing a black man; it will still be discussed.  and its reasonable to discuss it.  

lets put some less serious spin on it; when the red sox won the world series in 2004, it didn&#039;t put the curse-of-the-bambino behind them; the win was always talked about it in context of the curse.  

it wasn&#039;t until they won again in 2007 that the win became common place and therefore not worth talking about.  

lets leave it for what it is.  there is no collective guilt to assuage.  
and at least he won it without affirmative action</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>race is big.  you can&#8217;t &#8220;put it behind you&#8221; by just electing a black man; it will still be discussed.  and its reasonable to discuss it.  </p>
<p>lets put some less serious spin on it; when the red sox won the world series in 2004, it didn&#8217;t put the curse-of-the-bambino behind them; the win was always talked about it in context of the curse.  </p>
<p>it wasn&#8217;t until they won again in 2007 that the win became common place and therefore not worth talking about.  </p>
<p>lets leave it for what it is.  there is no collective guilt to assuage.<br />
and at least he won it without affirmative action</p>
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		<title>By: Zargon</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/11/05/president-barack-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-200673</link>
		<dc:creator>Zargon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about this are we supposed to feel proud of?  So a black guy is going to be the new king of the free world because he got the most checkmarks yesterday.  So a person that would have been violently oppressed a generation ago gets to be a violent oppressor today.  Is that a step forward?  Is it really?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about this are we supposed to feel proud of?  So a black guy is going to be the new king of the free world because he got the most checkmarks yesterday.  So a person that would have been violently oppressed a generation ago gets to be a violent oppressor today.  Is that a step forward?  Is it really?</p>
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