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Tuesday, October 21st, 2008I’d say the reaction thus far to my latest Fox column arguing for Republican defeat next month is about 70-30 against.
After the break, some of the choicer negative responses.
MORE: I should add, here, that I’ve seen just as much inanity from populist lefty sites. I don’t post hate emails to pass any judgment on who reads the Fox website. I post them because I find them amusing.
While I agree that the republican party has derailed badly over the last 30 years, burning down the barn to clear out the mice is *not* the answer.
While Juan McLame is no prize, the damage done by electing a Marxist and turning Pelosi and her ilk loose in the halls of Congress and the Senate would be (perhaps irretrievably) of severe damage to our country.
Look who got us into this mess. It’s pretty evident that around half the country is willing to vote for Bread & Circuses while the Empire (Country) burns, and while President Nero (oops, Bush) is fiddling about our financial system and electoral system is going down in flames. I’m most certainly not happy about the Republican’s stance of letting the Dems run roughshod over them, but you have to take a step back and ask yourself, “Why did the bums get elected to this office in the first place??” Voting for a Chicago slimeball backed by a Hungarian slimeball is NOT going to do the country any favors, and will be *harmful* to say the least.
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I don’t care if you do call yourself a Libertarian, that’s just stupid.
Know anything about history, I hope? Try this, then: What you’re suggesting (and your line of reasoning) is like all the Germans who said, “I don’t miss the Kaiser, but the politicians in this Weimer Republic government sure messed everything up. It’ll serve them right if we boot them all out and put this guy with the funny moustache in, even if he does have some strange ideas and we don’t know much about him and probably shouldn’t trust him.”
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So the solution to the Republican Party’s failures is to elect a left-wing spread-the-wealth moron? You’re an idiot. And it’s because of people like you that this country is going to take a nose-dive concerning personal freedoms and wealth.
I usually vote for the Republicans, but not this year. But I’m not shitass dumb like you appear to be. I’m not going to vote for any left-winger. There are at least two other political parties and presidential candidates and I intend to vote for one of them.
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Ever thought about giving the credit to the Democratic congress, like during the Bush administration and the Republican congress during the Clinton administration. After all, it’s congress that enacts the laws. I believe you are a Democrat.
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Bradley,
What turnip truck did you fall off? OR wus u wuking for a cotten pickur?
Why should the GOP lose. The jack asses have been in power in congress since 2006. Don’t you think or are you just an idiot? The liberals have been in control since 2006. The president has no control over congress. Think back was life good before 2006? Yea but dos republecuns cause dis stock maket to fails. NO you dumb as the Jack Asses did this all. Just vist U tube.
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Obama could be worse by merging the US into the UN. We could never recover from that.
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I don’t know why anyone would vote for a Dictator for this Country! that is what Obama will be if he get’s in! WAKE UP.
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I hate the thought of an Obama Bi(nla)den presidency for several reasons, the formost being that the legislative branch is also controlled by the democrats. That kind of power residing in those kinds of minds is a very dangerous forum for substantial government growth and substantial limitation of personal freedoms.
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Let me get this straight.
You want to punish George Bush for not being conservative enough by electing a Marxist president?
The most leftist candidate — and if you have your way, president — in America’s history with a steamroller majority in both chambers of Congress. Where he can nationalize health care, nationalize the oil industry, institute a guaranteed minimum annual income funded by confiscatory tax policies and by dissolving the finest military in the world, and pass laws that guarantee the constitutionally protected right to cut the brains out of living babies.
Then a President Obama could cement all his policies by assembling the most leftist, activist Supreme Court in the history of the Nation, which will find in the Constitution the protection of the right to leave newborn babies to die alone on shelves in hospital store rooms, the right of state courts to order overwhelming majorities of people in every state to shut up and enjoy homosexual marriage, the rights of foreign terrorists to enjoy more legal protection that the soldiers who are fighting to protect us from them, and the rights of Muslim students to demand foot baths in public schools while demanding that the Ten Commandments be taken off every public building because they find it offensive.
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I am an Independant and, ordinarily, I feel that I am informed enough so that if I were to become involved in a political conversation with one whose views differ from mine, I could clearly hold up my end and, in all probability, change their opinions – or, at least, get them to concede many of their opinions were not founded in fact.
You, on the other hand, are just one step away from being a bonefide, card-carrying Communist.
You say that the GOP must be defeated, then have the gall to say, “that’s not to say Barack Obama would be any better”…you see no lack of logic in that statement and still they give you a column to sway the public with your jibberish?
* We are still in a state of war…why would you feel that this is the time to jump ship?
* The media runs the country, no longer being happy with reporting the news, they simply must decide what you should believe and want to make the news, yet you see nothing wrong with this. All positive actions in Iraq are ignored and the now occassional suicide bomber gets front-page coverage – always, no exceptions.
* Clinton and Barney Frank and Wall St. greed had nothing to do with the stock market dive, did they – that was all that white devil, Bush.
* I gotta guess that you did no time in the military – or, if you did, you were fortunate to receive an “Other than Honorable” discharge…because that is precisely what you are.
* People like yourself, with access to the general public, in a role of some kind of ‘expert’, are the most dangerous things in this world – and men, far better than you, came home in flag-draped caskets so that you could do what you do.
You sicken me.
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What a dope!
,When those not working & not paying taxes,exceed 50%, they can never be defeated !!!
Bye Bye USA. FOREVER !!
How can you be so blind?
You better wake up & do all you can do to open those who are blinded!! QUICKLY!!
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Scum.
The above describes you to a tee.
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I hear you but with two if not three Supreme Court Justices slots open in the next four years your attempt to teach them a lesson will result in 40 years worth of damage. Heck Obama might even appoint Ayers to the Supreme Court.
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The insipidity of the attitude presented in this article is beyond comprehension.
It appears that you are unaware of the destruction to this country that could be accomplished in very little time by a left wing Congress, Senate and President. The Supreme Court would seek new lows.
But you think that it is appropriate to “teach the Republicans a lesson”.
The same logic has been found in rioting over a football victory. “We won! Now let’s burn down our homes and shops!”
At what cost would you gloat?
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You, my fellow Hoosier, are an idiot.
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As bright as you seem to be why would you want to distroy the American Capitalistic system by favoring the Democratic party which is promoting Government power over all parts of our lives,from health care to long term financings,to regulating our dispodable income by imposing excessive federal taxes on the people who,through their intelegance and hard creative work, earn more money then the masses of people?
Last comment,have you ever known a poor man to give a person a job which allows the individual to receive money for his labors?
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The one thing that the socialist,liberal Democrats can count on is the total stupidity of voters like you. You sound like you are in Junior High School. Ever think of not concluding that socialism is not the answer. You get what you elect.
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You sir are retarded and, hence, have forfeited your right to vote. Alexander Hamilton was right. You and the masses are not capable of choosing your leaders properly.
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I firmly believe McCain will stop the growth of government and will, once again, show that the Republicans are a party of smaller government.
You’ll see.
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I don’t believe you ever voted for Dole or Bush. I think you are using your column
and liberal views to influence readers. You should be ashamed of yourself. I think
the media stinks. I hate what you in the media, and Hollywood is doing to our country.Your not fooling anybody!
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Get a grip. I can shoot down your entire arguement by simply saying Supreme Court. With a President Obama, we will see the beginning of the end of Freedom in the USA. The liberal socialists will swarm the country like locus.
But that’s okay. I’ll leave my sunny paradise and pack my guns and move to Alaska. Hopefully global warming will take effect and make things a bit more liveable up there.
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So, you’re so mad at Republicans you’d turn over the government to a man who so obviously hates mainstream America and all of its values? You want a first lady who refers to her husband as “My baby’s daddy”? Yes, the Republicans suck but democratic control of the white house and congress would signal the official end of this country. Grow up – we don’t always get perfect choices. In fact, we never do.
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You forget that our armed forces will have to quit under B O and fight for
our safety all over again once he is out. It will be far worse than it is
now, so near victory. The Democrats, always with an eye to the main chance
for socialist powers only given to socialist leaders, will permanently
damage the health of the country.Palin in 2012!
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I guess you will think the same thing about the Democratic Party concerning the present inexperienced, unknown only to the radical left, individual who speaks like the Indians use to say, with forked tongue. Actually if he could flip flop it we should say with a flip/flop tongue. Your right you are a Libertarian not even close to a true Republican.
I am happy to be able to use my First Amendment right at this time. God bless America and those who defend your right to say what we both believe is true.
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Cannot possibly vote for a secret terror supporter (ie Obama)
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People are voting for Obama for three reasons 1. he’s black 2. he’s liberal 3. he’s a democrat. I suggest you pick up a copy of Atlas Shrugged, Mr. Balko, what happened in that book will happen if Obama wins.
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Obama is a flaming socialist and has said he will “stand with the Muslims if the political winds shift in an ugly direction” (see his memoirs). He has a pattern of forming alliances with very bad people. We’d all like to have Ronald Reagan as an option today but we don’t. Voting for a third party candidate is a wasted vote at this juncture. At least McCain is willing to kick the ass of people who want to harm us. Your reasoning here is just a big bowl of wrong.
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I’ve heard Barack say that he will dismantle our nuclear arsonal. And we know from the Carter and Clinton era that they dismantled the military.
So we become sitting ducks. And the first job of the Federal Government is to protect us.
Barack lives in this fantasy world of if we just talk to them nicely they will like us.
Barack does not have our national security backs.
John McCain must win, if only for that reason!
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I found you article on not voting Republican truly STUPID. Do you have a brain? you know what damage o. Hussein can do in 4 years. I guess not.
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Your comments show that you are a liberal at heart and never were a conservative. To allow your country to be led by the most liberal senator ever means that you put your personal opinions before the good of the country. Hope you can live with the results when Pelosi takes over the country.
I wonder if Fox published your op-ed as a joke
It’s sad when:
“I hear you but with two if not three Supreme Court Justices slots open in the next four years your attempt to teach them a lesson will result in 40 years worth of damage. Heck Obama might even appoint Ayers to the Supreme Court.”
…is the sanest response.
so the responses are, in order: Socialist, Hitler, Leftist, It’s the Democrats Fault, “Bradley you idiot”, US out of UN, Obama = dictator, Obama Bin Laden, Marxist/Leftist, “bye bye USA”, you’re scum, et al… (I got depressed and gave up after “scum”)
I find it darkly amusing that the Democrats are going to get blamed for the Bush admin because they had control of congress from 2006-2008.
Serves them right for rolling over to Bush’s will at every turn.
Have all of these people forgotten the 90s?
the right of state courts to order overwhelming majorities of people in every state to shut up and enjoy homosexual marriage
I really hope this one doesn’t happen. I wouldn’t want to share my bathroom with another chick, that’s for sure.
I haven’t even read this article yet but just from reading the comments about it, makes me wonder why anyone wouldn’t give up trying to help make America a better place. There’s just too much anger, fear, and ignorance. These comments make any effort seem light-years beyond hopeless. Good luck Radley.
Yup, about the responses I expected.
We should have come up with bingo cards of the likely responses.
Oh Lordy, Radley. You libertarians have a tough row to hoe, don’t you?
Oh Lordy, Radley. You libertarians have a tough row to hoe, don’t you?
No, as pointed out above, libertarians don’t hoe, we’re the “cotten pickur(s)”
Joe Sixpack and Jane Winebox have spoken.
Nicole, If you’re going to be forced into a gay marriage, at least hope the Supreme Court has the sense to assign a nice girl for you to marry.
“A humiliated, decimated GOP that rejuvenates and rebuilds around the principles of limited government, free markets, and rugged individualism is really the only chance for voters to possibly get a real choice in federal elections down the road.”
You’re dreaming, Radley. The lesson that the Republicans have been taking ever since the Goldwater disaster is that they must always bid their principles down and to the left. Reagan was a delusional anomaly. Gingrich and the plastic revolutionaries of ’94 seal the point.
You think you’re going to teach the Republicans a lesson. Let me explain something to you: Obama is what the real left in this country has been waiting for at least since Eugene McCarthy. They’re all going to make the most of it and by the time they’re done, not one Republican will be signed-up for your class of instruction.
You will not get away with this.
Those responses are exactly what I’d expect from the people that FoxNews caters to.
My favorite is the tried-and-true “Liberal” label application to anyone who offers a reasoned opinion as to why the GOP no longer represents the ideals of freedom and limited government. Why bother to construct a counter argument when its so much easier to summarily dismiss a well-reasoned opinion with a label?
Thanks,
Burt
Don’t worry, if the last two years are any indication, with Obama at the helm, they’ll do enough between 2009 and 2011 to make us forget that Bush was ever an issue.
Does it strike anyone else as super ironilicious when a self-proclaimed anarchist who lives in his mother’s basement demands that you vote Team Red over Team Blue? Have you and Eric Dondero been screwing again, Billy? Did he give you his disease. No, not herpes, the other one.
“You will not get away with this”
I’m sure Radley is shaking in his boots.
Damn, there are a lot of angry motherfuckers out there, all of whom seem to buy into the notion that the wrong candidate will end “America” as they know it. These people honestly believe that the typical Democrat politician is roughly the same as the most hardcore leftist college professor.
man those are good. i like the guy who called you “Bradley.”
I rather not enjoy my homosexual marriage with someone who thinks 53% is an “overwhelming” majority….
I find the accusations of Marxism especially amusing. Sure, Obama has a lot of socialist tendencies, but Marxist? At worst, he is promoting a sort of watered down version of European style socialism. Marxism doesn’t even really apply in the post industrial, information rich time we live in.
* I gotta guess that you did no time in the military – or, if you did, you were fortunate to receive an “Other than Honorable” discharge…because that is precisely what you are.
I agree with Bradley, and I served in the Navy for seven years. Got an honorable discharge, too.
This is the problem with Democracy: people treat it like a spectator sport. You’re either on their team or you are the enemy, and they ALWAYS support their team.
Harmless when its Football or Baseball, self-destructive when it’s the presidency.
There is no such thing as a “true republican” or a “true democrat” because the two major parties are such frankenstein monsters these days. The politics of partisanism are entirely irrational.
winner:
“…NO you dumb as the Jack Asses did this all. Just vist U tube.”
“Does it strike anyone else as super ironilicious when a self-proclaimed anarchist who lives in his mother’s basement…”
In nine days, I will be winging my way to South Africa on someone else’s dime because I’m that important to the productive effort. I’ll be there about a week: Sun City, Johannesburg and Capetown.
You’ll be doing what, exactly? Delivering pizzas?
“…demands that you vote Team Red over Team Blue?”
You couldn’t cite that in order to save your own life because it’s not true. I did no such thing, and you’re an idiot.
Ignorance emanating the putrid quips from the mouths of idiots.
Congress has to confirm any candidate for the Supreme Court. The President doesn’t just pick someone and BAM they’re wearing a black robe and one of the mullahs of this country.
So, the republicans think it’s ok for government to assume absolute control over individuals as long as it’s their guy doing it, and democrats think it’s ok for government to assume absolute control over individuals as long as it’s their guy doing it. Neither side seems overly worried about truth, reason, or the constitution, so long as their guy wins. Mr. Barr, you have my vote. I feel better throwing my vote away in the name of my own self-interest than choosing between two sides of the same coin.
“I feel better throwing my vote away in the name of my own self-interest than choosing between two sides of the same coin.”
There’s a way to feel even better:
Don’t vote.
Perhaps getting punched in the gut is the only way for some to realize that giving somone, anyone, the power to punch you in the gut at will is unwise. I don’t hope for either of the republicrats to win the office but if there’s a lesson that can be learned I do hope that it’s that Republicans can no longer support Corporatist warmongers simply because the other guy is a Socialist. The two are esentially the same.
Why the hell do so many people seem to think that pretending to be a libertarian is such a politically adroit and/or lucrative enterprise?
I actually am one and I haven’t gotten shit out of it!
I would like to lodge an ethical question.
How does it work that someone gets to come along and gratuitously try to insinuate that I’m some kind of garreted loser and people vote his remark up, and then when I point out a concrete fact demolishing his proposition, it gets voted down?
How exactly does that work?
Look: I understand that lots of you people don’t like me. That doesn’t matter. What I want to know is whether facts matter to you.
Wow, I didn’t know FEARNews had that many readers! A Rhode’s Scholar, every one… I don’t understand where these folks get the idea that Radley is a communist/leftist? It must be all the cold, hard anti-drug war stuff he prints, since we all know conservatives are so big on personal freedom, they’ll rob you of it to ensure drug users don’t take away non-drug users’ choice not to do drugs.
Face it, whether McCain or Obama wins, WE ALL LOSE! Less liberty, more government. As for not voting, I don’t understand. Why not vote Libertarian – at least your conscience will be clean. I guess many Americans always want to pick a winner, or they just say “screw it, it’s not worth the effort…” Well, it is. Every election that increases the number of Libertarian voters is a step in the right direction!
“through their intelegance” – Wow.
Kinda funny that some people wrote in to accuse Radley of trying to influence voters with his column. Isn’t that the idea behind writing a political column?
God that was sobering. I think it may be (further) evidence that voters be required to take an IQ test to be able to vote rather than have a pulse.
In an attempt to dilute the thumbs down vote against Mr. Beck, let me say that I don’t understand how you can misunderstand what he wrote. He’s not criticizing Radley for not voting for McCain. He’s ridiculing the idea that you can expect a political party in this late stage democratic society to have any political philosophy to fall back on, rather than just copy the “successful” side for the next election cycle. The only principles are those of ad execs. The road to serfdom will get a nice boost from Obama and a unified executive/legislature, but regardless of what team is in control (or who stirs the cannibal pot, to borrow Beck’s imagery), all you can expect is less liberty.
Right after Radley posted this I was hoping there was a comment section below. Alas, there wasn’t but I’m glad you posted this to see what the loonies have to say.
FNS — I’m not going to vote your remark up. I’m going to point out that I’m glad that someone sees what I said, and says so. Thank you.
On the very fine point of “ridicule”: please read again what I wrote about it. The very first sentence is a handy colloquial metaphor that some of no sporting blood might take as abrasive. {shrug} I’d give up that fight if it got that serious. (I’d probably find another way to be just as abrasive, but that’s across from the point, which is…)
All the rest of it I mean in word-by-word earnest. What I quoted from Radley is an essential kernel of his position, which just reeks of hope that the Republican Party is going to come to the rescue of the voters, after floating around themselves on a raft for eight years.
There. I had meant to say that I did not “ridicule” the idea, but I guess I just did.
By the time they have the next angle on power, they’ll be begging to compromise with the prevailing ethical and political tides just to get back aboard ship.
Consider that today’s sixth-graders will be eligible to vote in 2016. Some of them have Obama in their school textbooks already. Who do you think they’re going to be by the time they’re ready to pull that lever for the first time?
That’s only a single aspect of the thing. Christ only knows what’s going to happen during at least one — but more likely two — Obama terms, but I guarantee you this: you are not going to see a Republican striding out of the wreckage on “principles of limited government, free markets, and rugged individualism”. They are simply not in that market anymore. They haven’t been for many decades. This is a ridiculous hope.
It’s not very libertarian of me, but I think it would be pretty amusing if the government ordered the majority of the people in every state to shut up and enjoy homosexual marriage.
Today’s eight graders will be ready to vote in 2016 and all of them have Bush II in their textbooks already. So, what’s your point?
As we have discussed in the past, you, as an avowed anarchist and tax dodger do not vote. So whine all you want while being “that important to the productive effort” but not actually doing a damned thing to shift the political climate in this country back to a more sane realm. I expect that when life here gets too tough for you, you will jet off to someplace else and bitch about how it too is going down the drain.
Kwix,
If someone does not buy lottery tickets, would you accuse them of not doing a damned thing to give their family a better life? See if you can figure out the parallel with that and voting. And try to be less stupid.
“…but not actually doing a damned thing to shift the political climate in this country back to a more sane realm.”
I’m certainly not going to vote, if that’s what you mean — and I believe it is. You expect me to stipulate to your framework as the limit of political action. Well; I don’t.
“I expect that when life here gets too tough for you, you will jet off to someplace else and bitch about how it too is going down the drain.”
You can “expect” anything you want, despite what I’ve always said on that very point. Some people around here know what I’m referring to. You are ignorant of what you’re talking about, and dead wrong about it.
Is that really a position that you want to be in?
I just feel exhausted with this election…at every turn I see the most vicious insults and lies being thrown around by both parties. I’m so sick of hearing “I’m Barack Obama/John McCain and I approved this message” followed by a string of slander which should really provoke feelings of shame from every republican and democrat listening to them.
Earlier in this election I was debating if I should go with the “lesser of two evils” approach to voting…but I’ve become so tired with this endless foolishness I’m most assuredly voting libertarian this year…and every four years from now until I see the most miraculous reversal of this trend.
But perhaps an important thing to point out at this time is that America, even with all of our current problems, is still a country with many great aspects. I just never want to see America lose what little glory we have left.
God help us all.
Really, what led you to that conclusion? Perhaps it was my words:
“As we have discussed in the past, you … do not vote.” There, I eliminated the confusing words for you. I congratulate you for being able to discern my meaning. Too bad it was a third grade reading level.
What would you (and Frank N. Stein) do other than bitch if you are not to participate in the political process? Plot the bombing of Parliament, errm, Congress?
Or perhaps just live your sorry lives for yourselves rather than helping to make the world free for your fellow man.
I suppose you could quit paying taxes to “starve the beast” but it’s just as futile as voting, no?
You proclaim to want to free the mind of your fellow man, to teach him how to be free. But you do no such thing. You belittle those who don’t see your way and prance around like a schoolboy reveling in some inside joke. I am tire of it but it amuses me occasionally so please, continue posting.
“Or perhaps just live your sorry lives for yourselves…”
{vigorous nod} Speaking only for myself: yes. That’s it. Exactly. What’s your problem with that?
“…rather than helping to make the world free for your fellow man.”
Hey: about eighty-nine percent of my fellow men would happily strangle me with the nearest extension-cord if I presumed that to be my job.
It’s not.
The most hilarious parts have to be the people who are complaining that they will lose more ‘personal freedoms’ under the Democrats.
Of course other people’s freedoms, like say abortion and racial profiling, those don’t concern them in the least. But THEIRS should be preserved.
“of course other people’s freedoms, like say abortion and racial profiling…”
No one will ever take away my freedom to racially profile. Then who will I know drinks the best or make the best pasta? How, I ask you!
“Those responses are exactly what I’d expect from the people that FoxNews caters to.”
And that’s really the sad truth, isn’t it? Where else would a painfully obvious and level headed reality-check of modern American politics be derided as a contribution to the inevitable downfall of Western Civilization that is to follow a Democratic victory in November?
Remember how pissy and bitter the Democrats were after Gore “lost” in ’00?
Look at the visceral hatred in some of these responses. Now add “pissy and bitter”.
Scary.
I have to hand it to you Balko. You write a nice column, and they have to shit all over it. I am surprised there were no death threats, or maybe there were and you chose not to publish them.
I love how everyone is a fortuneteller reading the tea leaves of this election, while also seeing their worst fears tucked in under their beds.
Holy Christ! The column, and the responses have both been educational. Keep up the good work.
I like how Godwin’s law is demonstrated here!
if obama is a marxist, what does that make marxists?
do those people know what the term means?
I noticed one common refrain in these emails. Alot of people indicated that Barack Obama will cause the “loss of freedom” or “loss of liberty” or will bring about socialism in America.
Obviously these people haven’t picked up a newspaper in the last 50 years, because our liberty has been long gone for a very long time. And socialist policies started even farther back in the past.
George Carlin said it best with his whole illusion of freedom bit. You have the freedom to choose between coke and pepsi. The freedom to choose ford over chevy. Capitalist freedom, not personal freedom.
[...] Must remember: the people I hate less are just as stupid. [...]
“if obama is a marxist, what does that make marxists?”
Look, fool: Stalin and Trotsky were both Marxists, and one buried an ice-axe in the other’s head.
Do you understand?
Be quiet.
so the answer is “no, specificity of language is useless in politics.”
“so the answer is ‘no, specificity of language is useless in politics.’”
Wrong. For instance: there is no ambiguity in referring to Stalin and Trotsky as “Marxists”, because it’s a fact.
Get it?
One thing I’ve never understood is that if you think that the Republicans have no loyalty to a particular ideology and will do whatever they can to get themselves into office why would voting a Dem in make them shift Libertarian? These are not overly bright people, they will simply see a vote for a liberal as a reason to adopt more liberal policies not to suddenly aim for freedom.
Portocan: yes.
Remember Konrad Heiden. He said that “propaganda is not the art of instilling opinion in the masses, but rather, it is the art of receiving opinion from the masses.”
Remember what I said: “The lesson that the Republicans have been taking ever since the Goldwater disaster is that they must always bid their principles down and to the left.” Anyone who cannot see this fact in history is simply not looking.
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