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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Peter K.</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/10/09/the-great-dumbing-down-of-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-191278</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the matter of reciting Obama&#039;s middle name: Isn&#039;t it standard fare to recite an opponent&#039;s full name for derisive purposes? Didn&#039;t the aforementioned Dukakis constantly refer to his opponent&#039;s running mate as &quot;Jay Danforth Quayle&quot;? Didn&#039;t various Democrats often make fun of the middle name &quot;Milhous&quot;?

Why is it &quot;dumbing down&quot; when Republicans do it?

On the pronunciation of &quot;Pakistan&quot;: The correct pronunciation of a word one which people will understand. Otherwise, you&#039;re not communicating. If they&#039;ll understand more than one pronunciation, pick one that will not distract your listeners from hearing the point you&#039;re making.

It grates on my ears when Republicans refer to the &quot;Democrat Party&quot;. When they do so, they are not communicating with me as effectively as they might.

To communicate effectively with ordinary Americans, the correct pronunciation of &quot;Pakistan&quot; is &quot;PackiStan&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the matter of reciting Obama&#8217;s middle name: Isn&#8217;t it standard fare to recite an opponent&#8217;s full name for derisive purposes? Didn&#8217;t the aforementioned Dukakis constantly refer to his opponent&#8217;s running mate as &#8220;Jay Danforth Quayle&#8221;? Didn&#8217;t various Democrats often make fun of the middle name &#8220;Milhous&#8221;?</p>
<p>Why is it &#8220;dumbing down&#8221; when Republicans do it?</p>
<p>On the pronunciation of &#8220;Pakistan&#8221;: The correct pronunciation of a word one which people will understand. Otherwise, you&#8217;re not communicating. If they&#8217;ll understand more than one pronunciation, pick one that will not distract your listeners from hearing the point you&#8217;re making.</p>
<p>It grates on my ears when Republicans refer to the &#8220;Democrat Party&#8221;. When they do so, they are not communicating with me as effectively as they might.</p>
<p>To communicate effectively with ordinary Americans, the correct pronunciation of &#8220;Pakistan&#8221; is &#8220;PackiStan&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Harkonnendog</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/10/09/the-great-dumbing-down-of-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-190134</link>
		<dc:creator>Harkonnendog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 04:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re going to have a one party government, all Democrat, all the time. And after they way the press has rightfully done all they could to elect Obama, they&#039;ll do all they can to protect him. Best of all, he was among the most liberal people in the entire legislature. This country is finally going left (only 20 years late, thanks to Reagan) and by this time 2 or 3 years from now we&#039;ll be mucm more like our European and Canadian counterparts. )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re going to have a one party government, all Democrat, all the time. And after they way the press has rightfully done all they could to elect Obama, they&#8217;ll do all they can to protect him. Best of all, he was among the most liberal people in the entire legislature. This country is finally going left (only 20 years late, thanks to Reagan) and by this time 2 or 3 years from now we&#8217;ll be mucm more like our European and Canadian counterparts. )</p>
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		<title>By: melvin polatnick</title>
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		<dc:creator>melvin polatnick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 14:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 2008 presidential is all but over. Obama will be the winner over an opponent that found it difficult to even get out of bed in the morning. McCain bit off more than he could chew by opposing a much younger and more talented contender. The American public is soon going to get a rare treat as they watch a relatively unknown personality take the job as leader of the most powerful nation on Earth. With the economy in shambles his task will be huge. But with his youthful vigour we will be watching a new and creative approach for getting our nation back on course. There will be those that will be angry as he dismantles a cold war system that is costing the taxpayers over a trillion dollars each year, but he will succeed. Our nation will then see millions of new jobs created as our intra--structure and education system is rebuilt to meet the needs of the 21 century. Obama has not been harnessed by greedy insiders and will be free to pursue his childhood dream of making the world and the nation a better place to live in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 2008 presidential is all but over. Obama will be the winner over an opponent that found it difficult to even get out of bed in the morning. McCain bit off more than he could chew by opposing a much younger and more talented contender. The American public is soon going to get a rare treat as they watch a relatively unknown personality take the job as leader of the most powerful nation on Earth. With the economy in shambles his task will be huge. But with his youthful vigour we will be watching a new and creative approach for getting our nation back on course. There will be those that will be angry as he dismantles a cold war system that is costing the taxpayers over a trillion dollars each year, but he will succeed. Our nation will then see millions of new jobs created as our intra&#8211;structure and education system is rebuilt to meet the needs of the 21 century. Obama has not been harnessed by greedy insiders and will be free to pursue his childhood dream of making the world and the nation a better place to live in.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon H</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/10/09/the-great-dumbing-down-of-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-189731</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; The only ones playing at class politics here are the GOP flacks and hacks trying to turn Obama’s choice of pronunciation into a stain of elitism.&quot;

It&#039;s especially asinine when you consider the importance of Pakistan in US policy goals right now, and the difficulties we&#039;re having.

Do we want Pakistan to be friendly, cooperate, and stop aiding the Taliban? Yes.

Therefore, why go out of our way to piss in their soup? Pronouncing the word the way they do is a ridiculously cheap way of showing a bit of respect and deference to a country that is very much concerned with not feeling like it&#039;s being bullied by America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; The only ones playing at class politics here are the GOP flacks and hacks trying to turn Obama’s choice of pronunciation into a stain of elitism.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s especially asinine when you consider the importance of Pakistan in US policy goals right now, and the difficulties we&#8217;re having.</p>
<p>Do we want Pakistan to be friendly, cooperate, and stop aiding the Taliban? Yes.</p>
<p>Therefore, why go out of our way to piss in their soup? Pronouncing the word the way they do is a ridiculously cheap way of showing a bit of respect and deference to a country that is very much concerned with not feeling like it&#8217;s being bullied by America.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#39: I am Christian, and I approve that joke. +1!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#39: I am Christian, and I approve that joke. +1!</p>
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		<title>By: Cynical In CA</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/10/09/the-great-dumbing-down-of-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-189579</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynical In CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So what, pray tell, is the middle name of Jesus H. Christ?&quot;

Cleverest answer I&#039;ve read to that question is &quot;Haploid,&quot; owing to his earthly parentage of one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So what, pray tell, is the middle name of Jesus H. Christ?&#8221;</p>
<p>Cleverest answer I&#8217;ve read to that question is &#8220;Haploid,&#8221; owing to his earthly parentage of one.</p>
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		<title>By: Blackwing1</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/10/09/the-great-dumbing-down-of-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-189531</link>
		<dc:creator>Blackwing1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the entire &quot;McCain campaign&quot; is a small-county GOP chairman?

And is there something wrong with Barocky&#039;s middle name?  If so, what?  Nobody&#039;s got a problem using &quot;Dub-ya&quot;, as far as I can see.

Bhoooo, bhooo, whooo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the entire &#8220;McCain campaign&#8221; is a small-county GOP chairman?</p>
<p>And is there something wrong with Barocky&#8217;s middle name?  If so, what?  Nobody&#8217;s got a problem using &#8220;Dub-ya&#8221;, as far as I can see.</p>
<p>Bhoooo, bhooo, whooo.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what, pray tell, is the middle name of Jesus H. Christ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what, pray tell, is the middle name of Jesus H. Christ?</p>
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		<title>By: Dreadnaught</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/10/09/the-great-dumbing-down-of-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-189370</link>
		<dc:creator>Dreadnaught</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many people have been &quot;axed&quot; by Rev. Jackson?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many people have been &#8220;axed&#8221; by Rev. Jackson?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing is, I didn&#039;t know what he was saying the first two times he said it (two times in one or two sentances). I had to wait for the captioning to catch up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing is, I didn&#8217;t know what he was saying the first two times he said it (two times in one or two sentances). I had to wait for the captioning to catch up.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/10/09/the-great-dumbing-down-of-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-189302</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 23:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this what the election has come to? I couldn&#039;t stand when Jimmy Carter said &quot;Nuculer&quot; but I was only 10 at the time.  As for the dumbing down of the Republican party that may or may not be true but as a Libertarian I don&#039;t consider being anti-elitist the same as being anti-intellectual. I appreciate that this is a recent theme in your posts expressing your frustration with republican populism but this feels trivial at best.  A good spanking may be what the republicans need but is 4 years of Obama/Reid/Pelosi what we as Americans need?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this what the election has come to? I couldn&#8217;t stand when Jimmy Carter said &#8220;Nuculer&#8221; but I was only 10 at the time.  As for the dumbing down of the Republican party that may or may not be true but as a Libertarian I don&#8217;t consider being anti-elitist the same as being anti-intellectual. I appreciate that this is a recent theme in your posts expressing your frustration with republican populism but this feels trivial at best.  A good spanking may be what the republicans need but is 4 years of Obama/Reid/Pelosi what we as Americans need?</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
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		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben beat me to it, but it bears pointing out that if this is fair game, so is the fact that the &quot;mavericky&quot; candidate pronounces the name of our nation&#039;s capital &lt;i&gt;exactly like the (Caucasian) natives do&lt;/i&gt;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben beat me to it, but it bears pointing out that if this is fair game, so is the fact that the &#8220;mavericky&#8221; candidate pronounces the name of our nation&#8217;s capital <i>exactly like the (Caucasian) natives do</i>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ken&#8217;s Weblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What&#8217;s in a middle name?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken&#8217;s Weblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What&#8217;s in a middle name?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Great Dumbing Down of the Right. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: wunder</title>
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		<dc:creator>wunder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saturday Night Live poked fun at this very tendency among broadcast journalists in a skit in the 80s.  For some reason, I still rememeber it.  Does anyone else remember that?  
It was Jan Hooks (I think) hyper-pronouncing Nicaragua, and Jimmy Smits was the guest on that show.  
Sorry, but it does come off as elitist - even though it&#039;s not a valid argument to make against Obama (which should be needless to say).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saturday Night Live poked fun at this very tendency among broadcast journalists in a skit in the 80s.  For some reason, I still rememeber it.  Does anyone else remember that?<br />
It was Jan Hooks (I think) hyper-pronouncing Nicaragua, and Jimmy Smits was the guest on that show.<br />
Sorry, but it does come off as elitist &#8211; even though it&#8217;s not a valid argument to make against Obama (which should be needless to say).</p>
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		<title>By: Cynical In CA</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/10/09/the-great-dumbing-down-of-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-189233</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynical In CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the clumsy wording above, sentence should read:

&quot;As you wrote, Pinker is not a linguist but, in fact, a psychologist.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the clumsy wording above, sentence should read:</p>
<p>&#8220;As you wrote, Pinker is not a linguist but, in fact, a psychologist.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Cynical In CA</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/10/09/the-great-dumbing-down-of-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-189232</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynical In CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the correction Robert, I read Pinker&#039;s The Language Instinct on the recommendation of someone who disabused me of the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis a year ago.  Pinker is not a linguist as you wrote, but a psychologist.

From Wikipedia:

Steven Arthur Pinker (born September 18, 1954) is a prominent Canadian-American experimental psychologist, cognitive scientist, and author of popular science. Pinker is known for his wide-ranging advocacy of evolutionary psychology and the computational theory of mind.

Pinker’s academic specializations are visual cognition and language development in children, and he is most famous for popularizing the idea that language is an &quot;instinct&quot; or biological adaptation shaped by natural selection. On this point, he opposes Noam Chomsky and others who regard the human capacity for language to be the by-product of other adaptations. He is the author of five books for a general audience, which include The Language Instinct (1994), How the Mind Works (1997), Words and Rules (2000), The Blank Slate (2002), and The Stuff of Thought (2007). Pinker&#039;s books have won numerous awards and been New York Times best-sellers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the correction Robert, I read Pinker&#8217;s The Language Instinct on the recommendation of someone who disabused me of the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis a year ago.  Pinker is not a linguist as you wrote, but a psychologist.</p>
<p>From Wikipedia:</p>
<p>Steven Arthur Pinker (born September 18, 1954) is a prominent Canadian-American experimental psychologist, cognitive scientist, and author of popular science. Pinker is known for his wide-ranging advocacy of evolutionary psychology and the computational theory of mind.</p>
<p>Pinker’s academic specializations are visual cognition and language development in children, and he is most famous for popularizing the idea that language is an &#8220;instinct&#8221; or biological adaptation shaped by natural selection. On this point, he opposes Noam Chomsky and others who regard the human capacity for language to be the by-product of other adaptations. He is the author of five books for a general audience, which include The Language Instinct (1994), How the Mind Works (1997), Words and Rules (2000), The Blank Slate (2002), and The Stuff of Thought (2007). Pinker&#8217;s books have won numerous awards and been New York Times best-sellers.</p>
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		<title>By: Nando</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the Washington Post article:

&quot;The sage Platt had more information to disclose. &quot;Barack Obama refused to wear an American flag on his lapel,&quot; he said of the man who, at the presidential debate the night before, was wearing a flag pin on his lapel. The audience booed. &quot;Barack Obama, a man who wants to be president of the United States of America, removed the American flag from his chest because it was a symbol of patriotism. Perhaps Barack Obama doesn&#039;t put country first, but he puts fashion first.&quot; &quot;

Anyone notice that Obama has worn the lapel pin in BOTH debates while McCain has NOT worn it in EITHER?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Washington Post article:</p>
<p>&#8220;The sage Platt had more information to disclose. &#8220;Barack Obama refused to wear an American flag on his lapel,&#8221; he said of the man who, at the presidential debate the night before, was wearing a flag pin on his lapel. The audience booed. &#8220;Barack Obama, a man who wants to be president of the United States of America, removed the American flag from his chest because it was a symbol of patriotism. Perhaps Barack Obama doesn&#8217;t put country first, but he puts fashion first.&#8221; &#8221;</p>
<p>Anyone notice that Obama has worn the lapel pin in BOTH debates while McCain has NOT worn it in EITHER?</p>
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		<title>By: Abhishek</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/10/09/the-great-dumbing-down-of-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-189225</link>
		<dc:creator>Abhishek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They don’t speak English though.&quot;

Not true. A majority of Pakistanis and Indians speak English. As for the word itself, it was coined in the twentieth century by a Pakistani from an Urdu word. All Pakistanis (and Indians, for that matter) use [pa?k?st?a?n] when they pronounce the name of their country, whether they are speaking in English or a native language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They don’t speak English though.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not true. A majority of Pakistanis and Indians speak English. As for the word itself, it was coined in the twentieth century by a Pakistani from an Urdu word. All Pakistanis (and Indians, for that matter) use [pa?k?st?a?n] when they pronounce the name of their country, whether they are speaking in English or a native language.</p>
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		<title>By: Constant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Constant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, many Pakistanis speak English, as do many Indians. This makes sense, considering the history of Pakistan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, many Pakistanis speak English, as do many Indians. This makes sense, considering the history of Pakistan.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;unlike Europeans, we have absolutely no regular need for a second language on the majority of our continent.&lt;/I&gt;

this is the stupidest goddamn thing I&#039;ve read today, and that&#039;s not an easy award to win. The second-largest country on the continent by population (and the largest by surface area, so the plurality &quot;of the continent&quot;) has two national languages. There isn&#039;t a single country between our southern border and South America where it isn&#039;t extremely helpful, if not outright necessary, to know Spanish. And within the US...well, I live 1300 miles from the nearest national border and would greatly benefit in my day-to-day life from speaking conversational Spanish. The town I moved from had a substantial German-speaking population. Yeah, who needs anything but English?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>unlike Europeans, we have absolutely no regular need for a second language on the majority of our continent.</i></p>
<p>this is the stupidest goddamn thing I&#8217;ve read today, and that&#8217;s not an easy award to win. The second-largest country on the continent by population (and the largest by surface area, so the plurality &#8220;of the continent&#8221;) has two national languages. There isn&#8217;t a single country between our southern border and South America where it isn&#8217;t extremely helpful, if not outright necessary, to know Spanish. And within the US&#8230;well, I live 1300 miles from the nearest national border and would greatly benefit in my day-to-day life from speaking conversational Spanish. The town I moved from had a substantial German-speaking population. Yeah, who needs anything but English?</p>
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