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	<title>Comments on: That&#8217;s Some Fine Oversightin&#8217; There, Chairman</title>
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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: gerhard</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/09/23/thats-some-fine-oversightin-there-chairman/comment-page-1/#comment-184883</link>
		<dc:creator>gerhard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 20:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The same schmucks that got us in to this mess are now trying to shove this Bailout down our throat. I mean Dodd,Barney Frank ,and Schumer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The same schmucks that got us in to this mess are now trying to shove this Bailout down our throat. I mean Dodd,Barney Frank ,and Schumer!</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Beck</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/09/23/thats-some-fine-oversightin-there-chairman/comment-page-1/#comment-184478</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Billy, there are days when you annoy the crap out of me.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Just doin&#039; my job, man.

&quot;I&#039;m not happy &#039;til you&#039;re not happy.&quot;  And I&#039;m telling you the truth, all the time.

Onward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Billy, there are days when you annoy the crap out of me.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Just doin&#8217; my job, man.</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m not happy &#8217;til you&#8217;re not happy.&#8221;  And I&#8217;m telling you the truth, all the time.</p>
<p>Onward.</p>
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		<title>By: Honeyko</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/09/23/thats-some-fine-oversightin-there-chairman/comment-page-1/#comment-184412</link>
		<dc:creator>Honeyko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 06:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cynical...anyone....answer me this question: Why would Goldman-Sachs pay out &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;fifty billion dollars&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; in bonuses unless the whole plan, all along, was to royally loot the snot out of the company in broad daylight, then dump the worthless debt on the taxpayers by selling it as an &quot;asset&quot; to the government while the company somehow gets a new lease? (Is this deal already &quot;done&quot; behind the scenes? Why the hell is Warren Buffet buying in?)

Paulson himself sucked $500 million out of Goldman, like an ant with his face buried in the ass of aphid.

The colossal *cheek* of these crooks simply beggars the imagination.

(Does Ron Paul intend to do anything else with the rest of his abject failure of a life, or is he content to just wind down as an utterly forgotten footnote? ....He ought to show up for session tomorrow wearing a tri-fork hat, and shoot that bald motherfucker right through his lying gob with a black-powder pistol on nationwide television.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cynical&#8230;anyone&#8230;.answer me this question: Why would Goldman-Sachs pay out <i><b>fifty billion dollars</b></i> in bonuses unless the whole plan, all along, was to royally loot the snot out of the company in broad daylight, then dump the worthless debt on the taxpayers by selling it as an &#8220;asset&#8221; to the government while the company somehow gets a new lease? (Is this deal already &#8220;done&#8221; behind the scenes? Why the hell is Warren Buffet buying in?)</p>
<p>Paulson himself sucked $500 million out of Goldman, like an ant with his face buried in the ass of aphid.</p>
<p>The colossal *cheek* of these crooks simply beggars the imagination.</p>
<p>(Does Ron Paul intend to do anything else with the rest of his abject failure of a life, or is he content to just wind down as an utterly forgotten footnote? &#8230;.He ought to show up for session tomorrow wearing a tri-fork hat, and shoot that bald motherfucker right through his lying gob with a black-powder pistol on nationwide television.)</p>
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		<title>By: Cynical In CA</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/09/23/thats-some-fine-oversightin-there-chairman/comment-page-1/#comment-184358</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynical In CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 03:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>honeyko, thanks for the link to Denninger&#039;s blog.  Very interesting reading.  I was not surprised at all when I got to his last entry and he was comparing the present crisis to the German situation in 1933, as evidenced by post #1 above.

There is a coup d&#039;etat in the works right now.  If the Treasury Secretary gets this power, it is game over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>honeyko, thanks for the link to Denninger&#8217;s blog.  Very interesting reading.  I was not surprised at all when I got to his last entry and he was comparing the present crisis to the German situation in 1933, as evidenced by post #1 above.</p>
<p>There is a coup d&#8217;etat in the works right now.  If the Treasury Secretary gets this power, it is game over.</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/09/23/thats-some-fine-oversightin-there-chairman/comment-page-1/#comment-184328</link>
		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 01:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lewis Black once said, &quot;The only thing worse than democrats and republicans is when these fucks agree on something.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lewis Black once said, &#8220;The only thing worse than democrats and republicans is when these fucks agree on something.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jaime</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/09/23/thats-some-fine-oversightin-there-chairman/comment-page-1/#comment-184312</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the topic of current Barney Frank quotes that are unsettling - he said recently in regard to this most recent bail out, &quot;We&#039;ll now own a lot of these mortgages&quot; (see: &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/story/697190.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Miami Herald, 9.22.2008&lt;/a&gt;).  

It&#039;s far more than being &#039;worse off&#039; Radley.  As Frank says, the gov&#039;t is buying our houses now.  They &lt;em&gt;own&lt;/em&gt; us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the topic of current Barney Frank quotes that are unsettling &#8211; he said recently in regard to this most recent bail out, &#8220;We&#8217;ll now own a lot of these mortgages&#8221; (see: <a href='http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/story/697190.html' rel="nofollow">Miami Herald, 9.22.2008</a>).  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s far more than being &#8216;worse off&#8217; Radley.  As Frank says, the gov&#8217;t is buying our houses now.  They <em>own</em> us.</p>
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		<title>By: KBCraig</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/09/23/thats-some-fine-oversightin-there-chairman/comment-page-1/#comment-184311</link>
		<dc:creator>KBCraig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave Krueger:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Last time Congress was under the gun for quick legislative action it resulted in that masterpiece of government ineptitude called the Patriot Act.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And just like that monstrosity, you can bet that whatever &quot;cure&quot; emerges from Congress will have been pre-written long ago, just waiting for the opportunity to implement it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Krueger:</p>
<blockquote><p>Last time Congress was under the gun for quick legislative action it resulted in that masterpiece of government ineptitude called the Patriot Act.</p></blockquote>
<p>And just like that monstrosity, you can bet that whatever &#8220;cure&#8221; emerges from Congress will have been pre-written long ago, just waiting for the opportunity to implement it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Krueger</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/09/23/thats-some-fine-oversightin-there-chairman/comment-page-1/#comment-184308</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Krueger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;#20   Billy Beck 

You poor bastards have been voting for the lesser of two evils for so long that evil is all that’s left now.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That comment alone was worth today&#039;s visit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>#20   Billy Beck </p>
<p>You poor bastards have been voting for the lesser of two evils for so long that evil is all that’s left now.</p></blockquote>
<p>That comment alone was worth today&#8217;s visit.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/09/23/thats-some-fine-oversightin-there-chairman/comment-page-1/#comment-184302</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Billy, there are days when you annoy the crap out of me.  Today, however, I salute you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Billy, there are days when you annoy the crap out of me.  Today, however, I salute you!</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Beck</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/09/23/thats-some-fine-oversightin-there-chairman/comment-page-1/#comment-184299</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You poor bastards have been voting for the lesser of two evils for so long that evil is all that&#039;s left now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You poor bastards have been voting for the lesser of two evils for so long that evil is all that&#8217;s left now.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank N Stein</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/09/23/thats-some-fine-oversightin-there-chairman/comment-page-1/#comment-184290</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank N Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are witnessing the final throes of the insurgency known as the United States Federal Government.</description>
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		<title>By: The_Chef</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/09/23/thats-some-fine-oversightin-there-chairman/comment-page-1/#comment-184283</link>
		<dc:creator>The_Chef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;#7 &#124;   Bot &#124;  September 23rd, 2008 at 12:23 pm

I hereby predict a turning point in the viability of a 3rd party platform and candidate in American presidential politics.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I disagree, the American people will cling to this two-party system until it literally falls down around their ears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>#7 |   Bot |  September 23rd, 2008 at 12:23 pm</p>
<p>I hereby predict a turning point in the viability of a 3rd party platform and candidate in American presidential politics.</p></blockquote>
<p>I disagree, the American people will cling to this two-party system until it literally falls down around their ears.</p>
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		<title>By: Honeyko</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/09/23/thats-some-fine-oversightin-there-chairman/comment-page-1/#comment-184269</link>
		<dc:creator>Honeyko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; It is disgusting what some people say about Bush’s power grabs....

Tell me again who&#039;s the head of the Senate Banking Committee.

Do you even know? Without looking it up first?

- Anybody who thinks this is a partisan issue hasn&#039;t the least clue in the world what is happening, and is probably going to overlook absolutely everything important while obsessing on the least relevant details.

Go to &lt;b&gt;Karl Denninger&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://market-ticker.denninger.net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Market Ticker&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; site and click on the calender in the upper right, reading/viewing everything starting from the 14th.

&lt;i&gt;Then&lt;/i&gt; you&#039;ll know what&#039;s going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; It is disgusting what some people say about Bush’s power grabs&#8230;.</p>
<p>Tell me again who&#8217;s the head of the Senate Banking Committee.</p>
<p>Do you even know? Without looking it up first?</p>
<p>- Anybody who thinks this is a partisan issue hasn&#8217;t the least clue in the world what is happening, and is probably going to overlook absolutely everything important while obsessing on the least relevant details.</p>
<p>Go to <b>Karl Denninger&#8217;s <a href="http://market-ticker.denninger.net/" rel="nofollow">Market Ticker</a></b> site and click on the calender in the upper right, reading/viewing everything starting from the 14th.</p>
<p><i>Then</i> you&#8217;ll know what&#8217;s going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/09/23/thats-some-fine-oversightin-there-chairman/comment-page-1/#comment-184254</link>
		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;we don’t have a choice now of debating whether this is a good or a bad thing.&quot; Not having a choice is the essence of democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;we don’t have a choice now of debating whether this is a good or a bad thing.&#8221; Not having a choice is the essence of democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: z</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/09/23/thats-some-fine-oversightin-there-chairman/comment-page-1/#comment-184253</link>
		<dc:creator>z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew, I agree.  It is truly stunning that they probably will pass a law which allows people to wipe out debt AND keep the collateral.  

Ben, I certainly wasn&#039;t suggesting that Frank has even a remedial understanding of economics, he&#039;s clearly clueless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew, I agree.  It is truly stunning that they probably will pass a law which allows people to wipe out debt AND keep the collateral.  </p>
<p>Ben, I certainly wasn&#8217;t suggesting that Frank has even a remedial understanding of economics, he&#8217;s clearly clueless.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/09/23/thats-some-fine-oversightin-there-chairman/comment-page-1/#comment-184244</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meanwhile...

&lt;blockquote&gt;Even as disagreements surface in Congress over the Administration&#039;s $700 billion financial bailout plan, most media reports suggest the parties are making progress toward a compromise package. In fact, the Los Angeles Times reports House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank &quot;said agreement had been reached in several broad areas, among them: creation of an independent oversight board to monitor the Treasury Department&#039;s handling of the bailout &lt;b&gt;and a requirement that the department seek to minimize home foreclosures by slicing the interest rate and even the outstanding loan amount of many of the troubled mortgages it buys.&quot;&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;

(emphasis mine)

I knew I should&#039;ve bought more house than I could afford and financed it with a 3/1 ARM. I guess I&#039;m getting punished for having a 30-year fixed mortgage again. Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Even as disagreements surface in Congress over the Administration&#8217;s $700 billion financial bailout plan, most media reports suggest the parties are making progress toward a compromise package. In fact, the Los Angeles Times reports House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank &#8220;said agreement had been reached in several broad areas, among them: creation of an independent oversight board to monitor the Treasury Department&#8217;s handling of the bailout <b>and a requirement that the department seek to minimize home foreclosures by slicing the interest rate and even the outstanding loan amount of many of the troubled mortgages it buys.&#8221;</b> </p></blockquote>
<p>(emphasis mine)</p>
<p>I knew I should&#8217;ve bought more house than I could afford and financed it with a 3/1 ARM. I guess I&#8217;m getting punished for having a 30-year fixed mortgage again. Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/09/23/thats-some-fine-oversightin-there-chairman/comment-page-1/#comment-184237</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Z&lt;/b&gt;:

Read my post two above yours. Frank&#039;s been doing this crap for almost 30 years. He KNOWS pumping money into the system doesn&#039;t help, but he&#039;s still willing to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Z</b>:</p>
<p>Read my post two above yours. Frank&#8217;s been doing this crap for almost 30 years. He KNOWS pumping money into the system doesn&#8217;t help, but he&#8217;s still willing to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: z</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/09/23/thats-some-fine-oversightin-there-chairman/comment-page-1/#comment-184235</link>
		<dc:creator>z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not fair to Frank since it&#039;s taken out of context.  The context is that &#039;SINCE the administration has established a worldwide expectation that the rescue/bailout will happen, NOW we don&#039;t really have a choice but to do something&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not fair to Frank since it&#8217;s taken out of context.  The context is that &#8216;SINCE the administration has established a worldwide expectation that the rescue/bailout will happen, NOW we don&#8217;t really have a choice but to do something&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/09/23/thats-some-fine-oversightin-there-chairman/comment-page-1/#comment-184233</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to see that checks and balances thing our founding fathers were so hard up on is working out like it should...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to see that checks and balances thing our founding fathers were so hard up on is working out like it should&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/09/23/thats-some-fine-oversightin-there-chairman/comment-page-1/#comment-184227</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When will these guys realize that sometimes doing nothing is the best course of action?

To quote from the hearing before the committee on financial services, September 25, 2003:

Barney Frank: &lt;i&gt;I joined this committee in 1981 because I am interested in housing. And I guess I wouldn&#039;t want to boast about my accomplishments, because the situation regarding housing, particularly people who are of moderate and low income, has gotten worse during my tenure. &lt;b&gt;I won&#039;t accept the blame, but I clearly haven&#039;t done a great deal of good.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

Surely, if you haven&#039;t done any good you in better than twenty years, you&#039;re doing it wrong.

Full text of this hearing can be found here: http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=108_house_hearings&amp;docid=f:92628.wais

Frank&#039;s statements can be seen about 15 paragraphs down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When will these guys realize that sometimes doing nothing is the best course of action?</p>
<p>To quote from the hearing before the committee on financial services, September 25, 2003:</p>
<p>Barney Frank: <i>I joined this committee in 1981 because I am interested in housing. And I guess I wouldn&#8217;t want to boast about my accomplishments, because the situation regarding housing, particularly people who are of moderate and low income, has gotten worse during my tenure. <b>I won&#8217;t accept the blame, but I clearly haven&#8217;t done a great deal of good.</b></i></p>
<p>Surely, if you haven&#8217;t done any good you in better than twenty years, you&#8217;re doing it wrong.</p>
<p>Full text of this hearing can be found here: <a href="http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=108_house_hearings&#038;docid=f:92628.wais" rel="nofollow">http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=108_house_hearings&#038;docid=f:92628.wais</a></p>
<p>Frank&#8217;s statements can be seen about 15 paragraphs down.</p>
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