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	<title>Comments on: Ladies and Gentelmen, I Present to You the Stupidest Issue of This Campaign</title>
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		<title>By: jmf</title>
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		<dc:creator>jmf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a few posiblities:

1) this is complete bullshit contrived by an employee at fox news

2)they were droped and left behind by some of the children at the convention

3) little flags are nothing more that a fucking party favor! get over it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a few posiblities:</p>
<p>1) this is complete bullshit contrived by an employee at fox news</p>
<p>2)they were droped and left behind by some of the children at the convention</p>
<p>3) little flags are nothing more that a fucking party favor! get over it!</p>
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		<title>By: Zeb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trying to play the convention as Green was a stupid idea from the start.  The only way to green the convention would be to cancel it altogether.  Everything about the party conventions was a complete waste of time money and resources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trying to play the convention as Green was a stupid idea from the start.  The only way to green the convention would be to cancel it altogether.  Everything about the party conventions was a complete waste of time money and resources.</p>
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		<title>By: xyz123</title>
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		<dc:creator>xyz123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 07:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why is democrat disrespect/abuse of the flag a stupid issue? 

observation teaches us that a person&#039;s character is most revealed in his/her small, thoughtless, unrehearsed gestures. it&#039;s the little things that reveal what&#039;s under the mask, is it not? disposal or disposition of  american flags have their own traditional/statutory rules/traditions/procedures, and the democrats ignored them. does that not tell us something about how democrats view the flag in the hearts? (would they have been likely to show such disrespect to the flag of a foreign nation? i doubt it...)

why is pointing out democrat flag abuse &quot;stupid&quot;, but it&#039;s evidently a way cool thing (as demonstrated in the **very next post**) to bust palin&#039;s chops for &#039;puffing&#039; or exaggerating her role in getting rid of alaska&#039;s state jet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why is democrat disrespect/abuse of the flag a stupid issue? </p>
<p>observation teaches us that a person&#8217;s character is most revealed in his/her small, thoughtless, unrehearsed gestures. it&#8217;s the little things that reveal what&#8217;s under the mask, is it not? disposal or disposition of  american flags have their own traditional/statutory rules/traditions/procedures, and the democrats ignored them. does that not tell us something about how democrats view the flag in the hearts? (would they have been likely to show such disrespect to the flag of a foreign nation? i doubt it&#8230;)</p>
<p>why is pointing out democrat flag abuse &#8220;stupid&#8221;, but it&#8217;s evidently a way cool thing (as demonstrated in the **very next post**) to bust palin&#8217;s chops for &#8216;puffing&#8217; or exaggerating her role in getting rid of alaska&#8217;s state jet?</p>
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		<title>By: Cynical In CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynical In CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 00:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Actually as others have pointed out, there is a difference.&quot;

A distinction without a difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Actually as others have pointed out, there is a difference.&#8221;</p>
<p>A distinction without a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: UPDATED AND BUMPED: Obama Puts Out A Lie To Try And Cover Up What We Saw Back On 08-28-08&#8230;.New Game: Where&#8217;s the Flag At The Democratic National Convention..Hint: Look In The Trash &#124; Right Voices</title>
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		<dc:creator>UPDATED AND BUMPED: Obama Puts Out A Lie To Try And Cover Up What We Saw Back On 08-28-08&#8230;.New Game: Where&#8217;s the Flag At The Democratic National Convention..Hint: Look In The Trash &#124; Right Voices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 23:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: C. S. P. Schofield</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. S. P. Schofield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 22:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is an issue for one reason:

The Democrats should have been able to foresee that several trash bags of American flags - of whatever size - thrown away after their convention would be a public relations problem. I don&#039;t quite know what they should have done about it .... stuff them in a closet in the local Democrat HQ until December? .... but it still shows lack of foresight. Not a good thing in a Candidate or a Party.

Not the crippling lack of foresight that Kerry showed in the 2004 race by not holding a press conference early on and saying something like &quot;When I got back from Vietnam I was a very angry young man and did some things that were less than prudent.&quot;, but then Obama hasn&#039;t done anything as showy as throwing somebody&#039; medals on the White House lawn either.

The Democrats have had the big names in the Media covering them for too long. It has made them careless, which they apparently can&#039;t get away with anymore. If they want to win elections, that is a problem they have to address, soonest. The country needs two viable Parties, minimum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is an issue for one reason:</p>
<p>The Democrats should have been able to foresee that several trash bags of American flags &#8211; of whatever size &#8211; thrown away after their convention would be a public relations problem. I don&#8217;t quite know what they should have done about it &#8230;. stuff them in a closet in the local Democrat HQ until December? &#8230;. but it still shows lack of foresight. Not a good thing in a Candidate or a Party.</p>
<p>Not the crippling lack of foresight that Kerry showed in the 2004 race by not holding a press conference early on and saying something like &#8220;When I got back from Vietnam I was a very angry young man and did some things that were less than prudent.&#8221;, but then Obama hasn&#8217;t done anything as showy as throwing somebody&#8217; medals on the White House lawn either.</p>
<p>The Democrats have had the big names in the Media covering them for too long. It has made them careless, which they apparently can&#8217;t get away with anymore. If they want to win elections, that is a problem they have to address, soonest. The country needs two viable Parties, minimum.</p>
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		<title>By: freedomfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>freedomfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 19:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue is rubbish. (Yeah, sorry!)

It surprises me that Obama&#039;s people said anything about it? Why should they? This is a case where responding turns a nothing story into a slightly more than nothing story. Being politicians and campaigners, these people can&#039;t say anything without trying to make themselves look good or the other guy look bad and, in doing so, they manage to say something that doesn&#039;t look quite believable (the &quot;the flags weren&#039;t going to be trash; they were packaged for return&quot; spin) and get in trouble for lying or covering up. It would have been trivial to say, &quot;Sen. Obama&#039;s supporters were proud to hold American flags at the convention and the overwhelming majority of the flags are likely now gracing their homes. Though it&#039;s unfortunate that some small fraction of the flags may have been treated improperly, neither the Senator nor the DNC had any role in that.&quot;

Anyway, I could care less. I&#039;m not one for symbolic gestures and, even then, I know that, as a symbol, &lt;i&gt;The&lt;/i&gt; Flag represents ideals that can&#039;t be tarnished by people not knowing the details of the &quot;Flag Code&quot; or their inadvertent mistreatment of physical flags. 

And, BTW, I would consider it ironic if there were actual American laws designating the proper means of flags disposal and penalizing the failure to use those means. Particularly at the federal level, such bathos would represent &quot;unclear on the concept&quot; politics at its most ludicrous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue is rubbish. (Yeah, sorry!)</p>
<p>It surprises me that Obama&#8217;s people said anything about it? Why should they? This is a case where responding turns a nothing story into a slightly more than nothing story. Being politicians and campaigners, these people can&#8217;t say anything without trying to make themselves look good or the other guy look bad and, in doing so, they manage to say something that doesn&#8217;t look quite believable (the &#8220;the flags weren&#8217;t going to be trash; they were packaged for return&#8221; spin) and get in trouble for lying or covering up. It would have been trivial to say, &#8220;Sen. Obama&#8217;s supporters were proud to hold American flags at the convention and the overwhelming majority of the flags are likely now gracing their homes. Though it&#8217;s unfortunate that some small fraction of the flags may have been treated improperly, neither the Senator nor the DNC had any role in that.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyway, I could care less. I&#8217;m not one for symbolic gestures and, even then, I know that, as a symbol, <i>The</i> Flag represents ideals that can&#8217;t be tarnished by people not knowing the details of the &#8220;Flag Code&#8221; or their inadvertent mistreatment of physical flags. </p>
<p>And, BTW, I would consider it ironic if there were actual American laws designating the proper means of flags disposal and penalizing the failure to use those means. Particularly at the federal level, such bathos would represent &#8220;unclear on the concept&#8221; politics at its most ludicrous.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 18:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s only the stupidest issue of the campaign &lt;i&gt;up to this point&lt;/i&gt;.  There&#039;s still 2 months left, plus all of the recriminations after election day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s only the stupidest issue of the campaign <i>up to this point</i>.  There&#8217;s still 2 months left, plus all of the recriminations after election day.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 18:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is pretty funny, given the emphasis and effort the democrats put in to looking &quot;green&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is pretty funny, given the emphasis and effort the democrats put in to looking &#8220;green&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 17:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually as others have pointed out, there is a difference.

One is left wing socialism, the other is right wing socialism.

Still socialism, but the excuses are different ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually as others have pointed out, there is a difference.</p>
<p>One is left wing socialism, the other is right wing socialism.</p>
<p>Still socialism, but the excuses are different ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Cynical In CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynical In CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 17:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1 for &quot;flagolatry,&quot; -1 for suggesting any difference between the parties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1 for &#8220;flagolatry,&#8221; -1 for suggesting any difference between the parties.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Quick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Quick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 15:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if it&#039;s a non-issue based on the Republicans&#039; flagolatry, it&#039;s a violation of the Democrats&#039; &quot;Green convention&quot; shtik.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if it&#8217;s a non-issue based on the Republicans&#8217; flagolatry, it&#8217;s a violation of the Democrats&#8217; &#8220;Green convention&#8221; shtik.</p>
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		<title>By: sqlcowboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>sqlcowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 15:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the law is on your side, pound the law.  If the facts are on your side, pound the facts.  If you&#039;ve got neither, pound the table.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the law is on your side, pound the law.  If the facts are on your side, pound the facts.  If you&#8217;ve got neither, pound the table.</p>
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		<title>By: Bad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 15:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad that the authors of that blog have seen fit to appropriately title their work such that nothing else needs be said about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad that the authors of that blog have seen fit to appropriately title their work such that nothing else needs be said about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Windypundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Windypundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 14:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cue flag desecration amendment proposal in 10...9...8...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cue flag desecration amendment proposal in 10&#8230;9&#8230;8&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 12:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG! Gimmick mini-flags in the trash bin. Those fiends!

What next? &quot;Denver Couple finds Mom and Apple Pie Crucified on Front Lawn!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG! Gimmick mini-flags in the trash bin. Those fiends!</p>
<p>What next? &#8220;Denver Couple finds Mom and Apple Pie Crucified on Front Lawn!&#8221;</p>
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