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		<title>By: Honeyko</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/09/06/hmm-9/comment-page-1/#comment-178283</link>
		<dc:creator>Honeyko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 17:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The BDS crowd is, as usual, &lt;a href=&quot;http://jeffreyquick.wordpress.com/2008/09/07/coke-plane/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;getting suckered&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;i&gt;    #29 posted by jimmitude , September 6, 2008 6:08 AM

    Re: the video. That’s not anything close to a G-II. Nose too short, wing not swept, and not a T tail.

    This sounds too much like a deliberate spoof to me. If you don’t think the pros are good at what they do, (and they rely on that) you’ll never find the right rabbit hole. And a technology mall corporation with the initals DBA (doing business as….) is a dead give away that you ain’t on the right track. This is like registering at a hotel under the name Ford Honda. Only a journalist ‘hot on the trail’ won’t notice that the name is, ummm, odd.

    I’m not saying that there isn’t something funny going on, but I’d bet it isn’t an Intel group doing it.&lt;/i&gt;

(And: Beck is right. I was there in the AC-ECW usenet trenches when Hopsicker was just another scatterbrained nitwit who&#039;d believe and re-promote the most credulous of &quot;fall-back propaganda&quot; nonsense during the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.etherzone.com/body.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Clinton Body Count&lt;/a&gt; years, a minor industry that quickly developed its own legs as a self-perpetuating delusional state sans any further involvement by actual intel-types. E.g., the &quot;911 Truthers&quot; are a perfect example.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The BDS crowd is, as usual, <a href="http://jeffreyquick.wordpress.com/2008/09/07/coke-plane/" rel="nofollow">getting suckered</a>.</p>
<p><i>    #29 posted by jimmitude , September 6, 2008 6:08 AM</p>
<p>    Re: the video. That’s not anything close to a G-II. Nose too short, wing not swept, and not a T tail.</p>
<p>    This sounds too much like a deliberate spoof to me. If you don’t think the pros are good at what they do, (and they rely on that) you’ll never find the right rabbit hole. And a technology mall corporation with the initals DBA (doing business as….) is a dead give away that you ain’t on the right track. This is like registering at a hotel under the name Ford Honda. Only a journalist ‘hot on the trail’ won’t notice that the name is, ummm, odd.</p>
<p>    I’m not saying that there isn’t something funny going on, but I’d bet it isn’t an Intel group doing it.</i></p>
<p>(And: Beck is right. I was there in the AC-ECW usenet trenches when Hopsicker was just another scatterbrained nitwit who&#8217;d believe and re-promote the most credulous of &#8220;fall-back propaganda&#8221; nonsense during the <a href="http://www.etherzone.com/body.html" rel="nofollow">Clinton Body Count</a> years, a minor industry that quickly developed its own legs as a self-perpetuating delusional state sans any further involvement by actual intel-types. E.g., the &#8220;911 Truthers&#8221; are a perfect example.)</p>
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		<title>By: Coke plane &#171; The Quick and the Dead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coke plane &#171; The Quick and the Dead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 11:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Via Balko, I found this story about a plane that crashed with tons of cocaine in it&#8230; which had [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Guido</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/09/06/hmm-9/comment-page-1/#comment-178120</link>
		<dc:creator>Guido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 10:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Psion
&quot;At the bottom of the Donna Blue page remnants is a link reading, “Web site designed &amp; hosted at Homestead”&quot;

It wasn&#039;t the CIA it was black folks. It&#039;ll all come out in November implicating:

http://www.blacks4barack.org/

Seriously though, this is news worthy although hardly new news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Psion<br />
&#8220;At the bottom of the Donna Blue page remnants is a link reading, “Web site designed &amp; hosted at Homestead”&#8221;</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t the CIA it was black folks. It&#8217;ll all come out in November implicating:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.blacks4barack.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.blacks4barack.org/</a></p>
<p>Seriously though, this is news worthy although hardly new news.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 10:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... is about all you can say at this point.  I see reason to be suspicious that the plane is CIA owned and operated, but no proof.

If incontrovertible evidence emerges that shows the plane belongs to the CIA and they are using it to run drugs to America...now THAT would be big fun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230; is about all you can say at this point.  I see reason to be suspicious that the plane is CIA owned and operated, but no proof.</p>
<p>If incontrovertible evidence emerges that shows the plane belongs to the CIA and they are using it to run drugs to America&#8230;now THAT would be big fun!</p>
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		<title>By: Tokin42</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tokin42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 02:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just quibbling but I wish people would learn wtf rendition means.  That and the flagrant and unnecessary use of &quot;neocon&quot; piss me off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just quibbling but I wish people would learn wtf rendition means.  That and the flagrant and unnecessary use of &#8220;neocon&#8221; piss me off.</p>
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		<title>By: Stageleft:. Life on the left side : Well Now, Ain&#8217;t That Interesting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stageleft:. Life on the left side : Well Now, Ain&#8217;t That Interesting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 01:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kyfho Myoba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyfho Myoba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 23:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel Hopsicker has covered this extensively in his books, &quot;Barry and the Boys&quot; &amp; &quot;Adventures in Terrorland.&quot;

Check out madcowpress.com

He shows links between Mohammed Atta and CIA drug smuggling via the flight instruction school run by fugitive Rudi Dekkers.

Good stuff, you should check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel Hopsicker has covered this extensively in his books, &#8220;Barry and the Boys&#8221; &amp; &#8220;Adventures in Terrorland.&#8221;</p>
<p>Check out madcowpress.com</p>
<p>He shows links between Mohammed Atta and CIA drug smuggling via the flight instruction school run by fugitive Rudi Dekkers.</p>
<p>Good stuff, you should check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Helmut O' Hooligan</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/09/06/hmm-9/comment-page-1/#comment-177928</link>
		<dc:creator>Helmut O' Hooligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 21:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The CIA connected to nefarious or illegal activities??? Get right outta town!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The CIA connected to nefarious or illegal activities??? Get right outta town!</p>
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		<title>By: Red Green</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/09/06/hmm-9/comment-page-1/#comment-177923</link>
		<dc:creator>Red Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t hardly wait, for the next episode of &quot;Donna Blue and Mena Two&quot;.Or is it &quot;Chapo and Ollie&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t hardly wait, for the next episode of &#8220;Donna Blue and Mena Two&#8221;.Or is it &#8220;Chapo and Ollie&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Dog's New Clothes</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/09/06/hmm-9/comment-page-1/#comment-177919</link>
		<dc:creator>Dog's New Clothes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Psion,

&lt;a href=&quot;http://74.125.95.104/search?q=cache:23BSCn_6THYJ:www.williamhung.net/+%22Web+site+designed+%26+hosted+at+Homestead%E2%84%A2+%22&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=6&amp;gl=us&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;William Hung&lt;/a&gt; is a CIA front!  It&#039;s so obvious!

Snark aside, this story isn&#039;t terribly surprising.  Still pretty depresing though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Psion,</p>
<p><a href="http://74.125.95.104/search?q=cache:23BSCn_6THYJ:www.williamhung.net/+%22Web+site+designed+%26+hosted+at+Homestead%E2%84%A2+%22&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=6&amp;gl=us" rel="nofollow">William Hung</a> is a CIA front!  It&#8217;s so obvious!</p>
<p>Snark aside, this story isn&#8217;t terribly surprising.  Still pretty depresing though.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Hohensee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Hohensee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 17:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet this will all turn out to be a really, really elaborate alternate reality game to promote some new TV show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet this will all turn out to be a really, really elaborate alternate reality game to promote some new TV show.</p>
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		<title>By: Psion</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/09/06/hmm-9/comment-page-1/#comment-177831</link>
		<dc:creator>Psion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 17:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d expect that whoever implemented their website probably followed a basic recipe for web design ... including hosting services. At the bottom of the Donna Blue page remnants is a link reading, &quot;Web site designed &amp; hosted at Homestead&quot;

Here&#039;s a Google search on all the sites containing that phrase:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;as_q=&amp;as_epq=Web+site+designed+%26+hosted+at+Homestead%E2%84%A2+&amp;as_oq=&amp;as_eq=&amp;num=100&amp;lr=&amp;as_filetype=&amp;ft=i&amp;as_sitesearch=&amp;as_qdr=all&amp;as_rights=&amp;as_occt=any&amp;cr=&amp;as_nlo=&amp;as_nhi=&amp;safe=images

I wonder how many of them are similar facades ... ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d expect that whoever implemented their website probably followed a basic recipe for web design &#8230; including hosting services. At the bottom of the Donna Blue page remnants is a link reading, &#8220;Web site designed &amp; hosted at Homestead&#8221;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a Google search on all the sites containing that phrase:<br />
<a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&#038;as_q=&#038;as_epq=Web+site+designed+%26+hosted+at+Homestead%E2%84%A2+&#038;as_oq=&#038;as_eq=&#038;num=100&#038;lr=&#038;as_filetype=&#038;ft=i&#038;as_sitesearch=&#038;as_qdr=all&#038;as_rights=&#038;as_occt=any&#038;cr=&#038;as_nlo=&#038;as_nhi=&#038;safe=images" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&#038;as_q=&#038;as_epq=Web+site+designed+%26+hosted+at+Homestead%E2%84%A2+&#038;as_oq=&#038;as_eq=&#038;num=100&#038;lr=&#038;as_filetype=&#038;ft=i&#038;as_sitesearch=&#038;as_qdr=all&#038;as_rights=&#038;as_occt=any&#038;cr=&#038;as_nlo=&#038;as_nhi=&#038;safe=images</a></p>
<p>I wonder how many of them are similar facades &#8230; ?</p>
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		<title>By: claude</title>
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		<dc:creator>claude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldnt even find a google cache of this website. The internet archive has a few copies but theres pretty much nothing there. 

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.donnablueaircraft.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldnt even find a google cache of this website. The internet archive has a few copies but theres pretty much nothing there. </p>
<p><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.donnablueaircraft.com" rel="nofollow">http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.donnablueaircraft.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Billy Beck</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/09/06/hmm-9/comment-page-1/#comment-177817</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Order now !  Call 1-800...&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Radley?  Let me just point out that Daniel Hopsicker is a fucking lunatic.

I spent a lot of time on the Mena episodes.  Interviewing principals, and that sort of thing.

&lt;i&gt;Daniel Hopsicker is a fucking lunatic&lt;/i&gt;.  I&#039;ve known this for many years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Order now !  Call 1-800&#8230;&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Radley?  Let me just point out that Daniel Hopsicker is a fucking lunatic.</p>
<p>I spent a lot of time on the Mena episodes.  Interviewing principals, and that sort of thing.</p>
<p><i>Daniel Hopsicker is a fucking lunatic</i>.  I&#8217;ve known this for many years.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Short broken text at the wayback machine
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://donnablueaircraft.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Short broken text at the wayback machine<br />
<a href="http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://donnablueaircraft.com" rel="nofollow">http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://donnablueaircraft.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave Krueger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Krueger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s not jump to conclusions.  I&#039;m sure that any government connection is purely coincidental.  The government of the United States of America, land of the free and home of the brave, would not tarnish it&#039;s unbroken history of uncompromising integrity by getting mixed up in any activities that couldn&#039;t easily stand up to the most intense public and media scrutiny.

Haha.  Just kidding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s not jump to conclusions.  I&#8217;m sure that any government connection is purely coincidental.  The government of the United States of America, land of the free and home of the brave, would not tarnish it&#8217;s unbroken history of uncompromising integrity by getting mixed up in any activities that couldn&#8217;t easily stand up to the most intense public and media scrutiny.</p>
<p>Haha.  Just kidding.</p>
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