Oh, Come On

Monday, September 1st, 2008

This is just ridiculous:

The Richland County (S.C.) Sheriff’s Department has acquired an armored personnel carrier complete with a turret-mounted .50-caliber belt-fed machine gun for its Special Response Team.

Sheriff Leon Lott told the Columbia State newspaper that he hoped the vehicle, named “The Peacemaker,” would let the bad guys know that his officers are serious.

“We don’t look at this as a killing machine,” Lott told the paper. “It’s going to keep the peace. We hope the fact that we have this is going to save lives. When something like this rolls up, it’s time to give up.”

Who wants to set an over under on the first time they use this thing to bust a pot dealer?

UPDATE: Pete Guither found a photo of the thing, and the weird origin of the name the sheriff gave it.

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58 Responses to “Oh, Come On”

  1. #1 |  Billy Beck | 

    “Will it kill you through a conrete wall? No.”

    Look, asshole: my SKS can do that. Shut the fuck up.

    “TGGP”: after I posted that at my place, an e-mailer rang in with convincing credentials (U.S. Army) cagily but very clearly alluding to techniques for destroying an M113 and all its content with common household chemicals.

    Do you understand? There are people who are able, not afraid, and who are watching developments like this.

    None of this is going anywhere good.

  2. #2 |  t. reed | 

    Give the cops a howitzer if they want one–at least the cops won’t be able to put the howitzer on full auto. What were these cops thinking??

  3. #3 |  Alex | 

    Billy, no. Your SKS (for those who don’t know, a $100 POS version of an AK) will not do that. I used to shoot the M2 regularly and I’m quite sure of its capabilities. In 5 minutes of googling I found proof: 2″ penetration into a concrete wall and 300 rounds to penetrate a 2′ wall. http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/infantry/mg/50_ammo.html

    Also, congratulations on knowing a ninja spy terrorist who can MacGyver his way through a tank.

  4. #4 |  Billy Beck | 

    When was the last time you saw a two-foot thick concrete wall in the “middle of a downtown city block”?

    From the very page that you linked, asshole: “The .50 caliber round can penetrate all of the commonly found urban barriers except a sand-filled 55-gallon drum.” You’re not very good at this. As for my “POS”: it’s a genuine Tula with the milled receiver. I could shoot you a photograph of the arrow. And I punch 7.62x39mm rounds right through concrete blocks in my back yard all day long. They go straight through the Franklin 65hp. aircraft engine block out there. Of course, you can whinge about concrete blocks not equaling your two-foot blockhouse, and that’s about what I would expect from you.

  5. #5 |  Alex | 

    You left out the next sentence: “Continued and concentrated machine gun fire can breach most typical urban walls. Such fire cannot breach thick reinforced concrete structures or dense natural stone walls.”

    This is what I said to begin with. “Continued and concentrated fire” Get it? Also normally 4 out 4 for buildings on a downtown corner are constructed of natural stone or reinforced concrete, which means cement with rebar not concrete blocks.

  6. #6 |  FreedomSight » Blog Archive » New Toys and Wretched Excess | 

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  7. #7 |  Adam | 

    Hey, that’s my sheriff. I talked to the cop next door about this and asked him why in the hell RCPD bought this. The argument is basically that there could be a situation where this could be useful such as a barricaded in shooter or hostage situation, and hey it only cost us $2000 so who wouldn’t buy one for that price. I could see a situation where it could be justifiably used maybe one time in the next fifty years, and that’s still a fairly big maybe. I’m just hoping they don’t deploy it during their next no knock drug raid at a house on a parallel street and blow through it, my house and the middle school behind me. That is after all what it was designed for.

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