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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/08/26/the-gift-that-keeps-giving/comment-page-1/#comment-173081</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Consumers most certainly do not get what they want when they don&#039;t have all of the information about a particular product. How many people would have bought dangerously designed automobiles like the Corvair if they&#039;d known that they were dangerously designed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consumers most certainly do not get what they want when they don&#8217;t have all of the information about a particular product. How many people would have bought dangerously designed automobiles like the Corvair if they&#8217;d known that they were dangerously designed?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/08/26/the-gift-that-keeps-giving/comment-page-1/#comment-173052</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Commerce isn&#039;t &quot;controlled&quot; by businesses, ever. Consumers get what they want... otherwise they simply won&#039;t pay for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Commerce isn&#8217;t &#8220;controlled&#8221; by businesses, ever. Consumers get what they want&#8230; otherwise they simply won&#8217;t pay for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/08/26/the-gift-that-keeps-giving/comment-page-1/#comment-173033</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 02:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt,

But, of course, if one person benefits from the information being posted, your argument collapses, because you keep claiming that everybody knows that Baconators are dangerous food. So will you acknowledge that printing the calorie count might be a good idea if you&#039;re wrong about EVERYBODY knowing?

For the record, there&#039;s nothing wrong with believing in commerce as controlled by businesses that offer little information to consumers - just don&#039;t call yourself supportive of markets, because you clearly only support the producer end of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,</p>
<p>But, of course, if one person benefits from the information being posted, your argument collapses, because you keep claiming that everybody knows that Baconators are dangerous food. So will you acknowledge that printing the calorie count might be a good idea if you&#8217;re wrong about EVERYBODY knowing?</p>
<p>For the record, there&#8217;s nothing wrong with believing in commerce as controlled by businesses that offer little information to consumers &#8211; just don&#8217;t call yourself supportive of markets, because you clearly only support the producer end of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Danno49</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/08/26/the-gift-that-keeps-giving/comment-page-1/#comment-173007</link>
		<dc:creator>Danno49</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please Hammer, don&#039;t hurt &#039;em!

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please Hammer, don&#8217;t hurt &#8216;em!</p>
<p>;)</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/08/26/the-gift-that-keeps-giving/comment-page-1/#comment-172999</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, King James is not the head of my government. So his personal pronouncements on the subject of smoking don&#039;t have any official weight. Same goes for the dude&#039;s bible.

Second, the point was not that everyone should know or care what King James said. It was that nearly everyone realized that smoking was unhealthy -- without labelling requirements and pronouncements from doctors in silly military uniforms -- almost back to the day smoking was invented.

Just like they know that a baconator has a lot of calories.

Don&#039;t get it yet? Explain to me again how markets thrive on information, so we have to tell everyone stuff they already know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, King James is not the head of my government. So his personal pronouncements on the subject of smoking don&#8217;t have any official weight. Same goes for the dude&#8217;s bible.</p>
<p>Second, the point was not that everyone should know or care what King James said. It was that nearly everyone realized that smoking was unhealthy &#8212; without labelling requirements and pronouncements from doctors in silly military uniforms &#8212; almost back to the day smoking was invented.</p>
<p>Just like they know that a baconator has a lot of calories.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get it yet? Explain to me again how markets thrive on information, so we have to tell everyone stuff they already know.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/08/26/the-gift-that-keeps-giving/comment-page-1/#comment-172998</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Sam, you&#039;re so cute when you&#039;re angry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Sam, you&#8217;re so cute when you&#8217;re angry.</p>
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		<title>By: Danno49</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/08/26/the-gift-that-keeps-giving/comment-page-1/#comment-172992</link>
		<dc:creator>Danno49</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does one translate the sound of something going over someone&#039;s head again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does one translate the sound of something going over someone&#8217;s head again?</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/08/26/the-gift-that-keeps-giving/comment-page-1/#comment-172990</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, wasn&#039;t the King, in this case, a representative of a government issuing a warning about the danger of tobacco? Aren&#039;t you against that sort of government meddling?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, wasn&#8217;t the King, in this case, a representative of a government issuing a warning about the danger of tobacco? Aren&#8217;t you against that sort of government meddling?</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/08/26/the-gift-that-keeps-giving/comment-page-1/#comment-172989</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well hell Matt, if the leader of a foreign nation said something 350 years earlier, how dare anybody not know of his pronouncement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well hell Matt, if the leader of a foreign nation said something 350 years earlier, how dare anybody not know of his pronouncement?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/08/26/the-gift-that-keeps-giving/comment-page-1/#comment-172890</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Grizzly, I think there was plenty of doubt and ignorance regarding the health affects of tobacco in the 50’s, the Surgeon General report wasn’t issued until 1964.&lt;/blockquote&gt;King James said in 1604 that smoking is &quot;a custom loathsome to the eye, hateful to the nose, harmful to the brain, dangerous to the lungs, and in the black, stinking fume thereof, nearest resembling the horrible Stygian smoke of the pit that is bottomless.&quot;

I don&#039;t think that anyone (who wasn&#039;t deluding themselves) needed the Surgeon General to tell them that smoking wasn&#039;t healthy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Grizzly, I think there was plenty of doubt and ignorance regarding the health affects of tobacco in the 50’s, the Surgeon General report wasn’t issued until 1964.</p></blockquote>
<p>King James said in 1604 that smoking is &#8220;a custom loathsome to the eye, hateful to the nose, harmful to the brain, dangerous to the lungs, and in the black, stinking fume thereof, nearest resembling the horrible Stygian smoke of the pit that is bottomless.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that anyone (who wasn&#8217;t deluding themselves) needed the Surgeon General to tell them that smoking wasn&#8217;t healthy.</p>
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		<title>By: Woog</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/08/26/the-gift-that-keeps-giving/comment-page-1/#comment-172888</link>
		<dc:creator>Woog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I the only one to think of the &quot;civil rights movement&quot; largely as an oxymoron? Aside from the mandate that *government* must treat everyone equally (good), the only things to emerge from the destruction of private property rights and freedom of association have been bad, wrong, and horribly destructive.

Not that I endorse a lunch counter owner acting like a jackass towards people who differ in appearance from him - folks like that don&#039;t get my money, and his customers tend to get an earful from me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only one to think of the &#8220;civil rights movement&#8221; largely as an oxymoron? Aside from the mandate that *government* must treat everyone equally (good), the only things to emerge from the destruction of private property rights and freedom of association have been bad, wrong, and horribly destructive.</p>
<p>Not that I endorse a lunch counter owner acting like a jackass towards people who differ in appearance from him &#8211; folks like that don&#8217;t get my money, and his customers tend to get an earful from me.</p>
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		<title>By: Road To Serfdom</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/08/26/the-gift-that-keeps-giving/comment-page-1/#comment-172882</link>
		<dc:creator>Road To Serfdom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That should say &quot;Is everyone&#039;s sarcasm detector broken today?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That should say &#8220;Is everyone&#8217;s sarcasm detector broken today?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Road To Serfdom</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/08/26/the-gift-that-keeps-giving/comment-page-1/#comment-172881</link>
		<dc:creator>Road To Serfdom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is everyone&#039;s sarcasm detector get broken today?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is everyone&#8217;s sarcasm detector get broken today?</p>
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		<title>By: Episiarch</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/08/26/the-gift-that-keeps-giving/comment-page-1/#comment-172877</link>
		<dc:creator>Episiarch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus fucking Christ, just enjoy the ludicrousness of the card and shut the fuck up about freedom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus fucking Christ, just enjoy the ludicrousness of the card and shut the fuck up about freedom.</p>
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		<title>By: z</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/08/26/the-gift-that-keeps-giving/comment-page-1/#comment-172873</link>
		<dc:creator>z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grizzly, I think there was plenty of doubt and ignorance regarding the health affects of tobacco in the 50&#039;s, the Surgeon General report wasn&#039;t issued until 1964.  People had the free will to choose to smoke but not necessarily all the information needed for an informed choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grizzly, I think there was plenty of doubt and ignorance regarding the health affects of tobacco in the 50&#8242;s, the Surgeon General report wasn&#8217;t issued until 1964.  People had the free will to choose to smoke but not necessarily all the information needed for an informed choice.</p>
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		<title>By: the friendly grizzly</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/08/26/the-gift-that-keeps-giving/comment-page-1/#comment-172865</link>
		<dc:creator>the friendly grizzly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Mark Z, and for decades cigarettes were called various names like coffin nails.  Folks got that lung cancer with free will.  Those were the days when folks were responsible for their actions.  The trend of blaming [insert &quot;big [insert here]&quot;] for one&#039;s own actions had not yet taken hold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Mark Z, and for decades cigarettes were called various names like coffin nails.  Folks got that lung cancer with free will.  Those were the days when folks were responsible for their actions.  The trend of blaming [insert "big [insert here]&#8220;] for one&#8217;s own actions had not yet taken hold.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Z.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Z.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;A carton of cigarettes that doubles as a Christmas card. From back when America was free&lt;/i&gt; and one in twenty Americans had lung cancer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>A carton of cigarettes that doubles as a Christmas card. From back when America was free</i> and one in twenty Americans had lung cancer.</p>
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		<title>By: Cigarettes Are Good For You</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/08/26/the-gift-that-keeps-giving/comment-page-1/#comment-172758</link>
		<dc:creator>Cigarettes Are Good For You</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A carton of cigarettes that doubles as a Christmas card. From back when America was free. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: xyz123</title>
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		<dc:creator>xyz123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no no no. they were putting innocent american citizens into the gulag in the *40&#039;s*. 

the fifties was when everyone was clean-shaven and wore a shirt and tie, and adolf mccarthy tried to send the hollywood scriptwriters into the death camps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no no no. they were putting innocent american citizens into the gulag in the *40&#8242;s*. </p>
<p>the fifties was when everyone was clean-shaven and wore a shirt and tie, and adolf mccarthy tried to send the hollywood scriptwriters into the death camps.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Berez</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/08/26/the-gift-that-keeps-giving/comment-page-1/#comment-172746</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Berez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re not alone, Tokin42. I miss smoking, too. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re not alone, Tokin42. I miss smoking, too. :(</p>
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