“The United States INVADED Iraq with the intent of gaining control of it’s (sic) oil reserves and passed it off as trying to spread freedom.”

Did we get ‘em?

The United States INVADED Iraq with the intent of destroying it’s leadership.

Let me correct that for you, Bob-o:

Germany INVADED Poland with the intent of annexing her territory.

Iraq INVADED Kuwait with the intent of gaining her harbors.

*The United States INVADED Iraq with the intent of gaining control of it’s oil reserves and passed it off as trying to spread freedom.

“John McCain admits US invaded Iraq for oil”

Oh, I agree. But I still think that folks like McCain and Putin, Bush and Medvedev are basically the same.

Thank you, kind sir!

I guess McCain figures as long as it’s the good ole USA doing the invading then it’s sanctioned by God . . . or . . . someone who blesses America over all others.

Ridiculously hypocritical to make the obvious point.

But I think that’s kind of the point. In McCain’s mind, Iran is funding Al Qaeda, the Czech Republic is Czechoslavakia, and he never said he didn’t understand economics. His mind and reality are frequently divorced. The fact is that since Iraq posed no threat to us, our invasion was aggressive. “Imperialistic” is a more subjective concept, but if another country invaded my home and occupied it, I might think of that as “imperialistic.”

Rather, what he means is that, after the horrors of the 20th century’s World Wars, and in the post Cold War era, nations shouldn’t tolerate invasions of one by another. Maybe that’s naive, and maybe it’s foolish foreign policy. But it’s obviously what he meant.

And yes, we invaded Iraq (man, that Ike Turner bit was fucking HILARIOUS though: keep that shit up). But implicit in what McCain means by “invasion” is “invasion for aggressive, imperialistic purposes.” And clearly the U.S. isn’t guilty of that – at least in McCain’s mind.

Really? Why not? Has mankind all of a sudden changed in some fundamental way? Have limited resources and rising population pressures suddenly vanished? Nations have always invaded nations…I wonder if he could articulate what has changed all of a sudden?

nuclear weapons?

MMIE #21: Re: oil:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/aug/11/georgia.russia3

Russia should have said it was going in to capture WMDs.

Considering that at “our worst moments” (during the Cold War) we were supporting terrorists and sending weapons to mass-murdering dictators as they were killing civilians in the streets, I think it’s a fairly reasonable comparison.

And while there are big strategic and political differences between our invasion of Iraq and Russia’s invasion of Georgia, it all boils down to the sick ambitions and fevered egos of corrupt, petty politicians who look at the tragic civilian costs of war as not worthy of real consideration.

Yeah…no actually it’s pretty straightforward thinking.