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		<title>By: Stop It at Ninth Stage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stop It at Ninth Stage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] reason is that being on a dynamic entry team is exciting, gives the cops a relatively risk free adrenaline rush.  The reason they shoot dogs is because [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Art Carden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art Carden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I thought &quot;the innocent have nothing to fear&quot; from ramped-up enforcement.  Right?  Right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I thought &#8220;the innocent have nothing to fear&#8221; from ramped-up enforcement.  Right?  Right?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/08/10/cheye-calvo-gets-it/comment-page-1/#comment-168249</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#13

No, use the RICO statues to prosecute the deputies and officers, and the chief/sheriff as well.  They certainly meet the definition of &quot;Corrupt Organization&quot;.

#16

One of these days we will be conducting the &quot;Drug War Crimes Tribunal&quot; in the high school gym in Nuremberg PA.   We&#039;ll start with the jackoffs who murdered Donald Scott on go on from there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#13</p>
<p>No, use the RICO statues to prosecute the deputies and officers, and the chief/sheriff as well.  They certainly meet the definition of &#8220;Corrupt Organization&#8221;.</p>
<p>#16</p>
<p>One of these days we will be conducting the &#8220;Drug War Crimes Tribunal&#8221; in the high school gym in Nuremberg PA.   We&#8217;ll start with the jackoffs who murdered Donald Scott on go on from there.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 01:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yeah, hi, I got your call...yeah, I&#039;m busting the Mayor right now for receiving a package of a controlled dangerous substance...Oh no, it&#039;s just pot.&quot;

The mind boggles, reels, tries to regain balance, then boggles again.

I&#039;ve said it many times but oh it bears repeating:

Fuck. Tha. Po. Lice.

Further, deponent sayeth not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yeah, hi, I got your call&#8230;yeah, I&#8217;m busting the Mayor right now for receiving a package of a controlled dangerous substance&#8230;Oh no, it&#8217;s just pot.&#8221;</p>
<p>The mind boggles, reels, tries to regain balance, then boggles again.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve said it many times but oh it bears repeating:</p>
<p>Fuck. Tha. Po. Lice.</p>
<p>Further, deponent sayeth not.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian,

I actually think that the reason the unwritten policy is &quot;Shoot the dogs first&quot; is twofold:

First: They are aggressive, control obsessed bullies. That&#039;s why they joined SWAT in the first place. It seems that&#039;s why most cops join the force, and these guys are the most aggressive of the aggressive.

Second: They know full well that there will be no ramifications to their actions. They have full immunity from prosecution. The only ramifications they DO face are departmental discipline, which is easily circumvented by claiming &quot;I was threatened by the dog&quot; knowing full well that the OTHER officers will lie through their teeth to back them up.

If you&#039;re an officer that has worked hard to make the SWAT team, you&#039;re going to want to stay there. As such, you&#039;re not going to make yourself out to be an &#039;attitude problem&#039; that &#039;Isn&#039;t a team player&#039; by ratting out a team member that gunned down a dog in cold blood. You&#039;ll just hide behind the &quot;Blue wall of silence&quot; and back up what&#039;s in the report.

Along the same vein... a SWAT team member isn&#039;t going to second guess the authority of the mission once it&#039;s underway. Sure, that looks like the home of a law abiding, middle aged guy in the suburbs, there is no way they can destroy 32 pounds of weed, and there is no reason to think any violence will ensue. But what SWAT guy is gunna say &quot;Wait guys! Is this a good raid? Perhaps we should just knock first and be nice?&quot; NO! It&#039;s &quot;Get in there and hold the Mayor hostage for several hours!&quot;  ... after shooting the dogs.

It&#039;s a military mentality that we do not need on our streets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian,</p>
<p>I actually think that the reason the unwritten policy is &#8220;Shoot the dogs first&#8221; is twofold:</p>
<p>First: They are aggressive, control obsessed bullies. That&#8217;s why they joined SWAT in the first place. It seems that&#8217;s why most cops join the force, and these guys are the most aggressive of the aggressive.</p>
<p>Second: They know full well that there will be no ramifications to their actions. They have full immunity from prosecution. The only ramifications they DO face are departmental discipline, which is easily circumvented by claiming &#8220;I was threatened by the dog&#8221; knowing full well that the OTHER officers will lie through their teeth to back them up.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re an officer that has worked hard to make the SWAT team, you&#8217;re going to want to stay there. As such, you&#8217;re not going to make yourself out to be an &#8216;attitude problem&#8217; that &#8216;Isn&#8217;t a team player&#8217; by ratting out a team member that gunned down a dog in cold blood. You&#8217;ll just hide behind the &#8220;Blue wall of silence&#8221; and back up what&#8217;s in the report.</p>
<p>Along the same vein&#8230; a SWAT team member isn&#8217;t going to second guess the authority of the mission once it&#8217;s underway. Sure, that looks like the home of a law abiding, middle aged guy in the suburbs, there is no way they can destroy 32 pounds of weed, and there is no reason to think any violence will ensue. But what SWAT guy is gunna say &#8220;Wait guys! Is this a good raid? Perhaps we should just knock first and be nice?&#8221; NO! It&#8217;s &#8220;Get in there and hold the Mayor hostage for several hours!&#8221;  &#8230; after shooting the dogs.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a military mentality that we do not need on our streets.</p>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe this is just the cop&#039;s way of taking out their frustration at not getting dogs outlawed 

In all seriousness, what was the genesis of this kind of paramilitary raid of homes?  Were they really losing that many cases to drugs being flushed?  Were cops really getting killed when serving warrants?

The cynic in me believes that this is more about the cops wanting more power as an organization, and - as is the case in all organizations - the ability to exercise that power in highly visible ways.

Because it&#039;s certainly done fuck-all when it comes to stopping the drug trade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe this is just the cop&#8217;s way of taking out their frustration at not getting dogs outlawed </p>
<p>In all seriousness, what was the genesis of this kind of paramilitary raid of homes?  Were they really losing that many cases to drugs being flushed?  Were cops really getting killed when serving warrants?</p>
<p>The cynic in me believes that this is more about the cops wanting more power as an organization, and &#8211; as is the case in all organizations &#8211; the ability to exercise that power in highly visible ways.</p>
<p>Because it&#8217;s certainly done fuck-all when it comes to stopping the drug trade.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy cow!

After reading about this when it occurred, I did some research, which led me here.

This was a serious wake up call for me.

I can&#039;t look at law enforcement the same way now, I now see why inner city types are leery of, and won&#039;t cooperate with, police. They know full well that these &quot;heroes in blue&quot; are too often just adrenalin jacked thrill seekers with guns that are immune to prosecution.

The utterly cavalier attitude of &#039;detective&#039; Kim (And by &#039;detective&#039; I mean &#039;Uncaring Jack Booted Thug&#039;) is ... well, it&#039;s appalling.

Then the astounding attitude of County Prosecutor Robert F. Horan in the Salvatore J. Culosi case, where no amount of negligence on the part of police will result in prosecution.

Horan strikes me as a prosecutor for whom &#039;justice&#039; means nothing. Only the conviction of those he has already deemed guilty seems to matter to him. He brags about obtaining convictions in cases with the skimpiest of evidence, then refuses to hold his precious police responsible for any wrongdoing.

These SWAT raids to serve non-violent warrants has to stop. There must be full transparancy and responsibility in the police departments. This attitude of &quot;We&#039;re just executing a raid, we can&#039;t be held responsible&quot; has to stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy cow!</p>
<p>After reading about this when it occurred, I did some research, which led me here.</p>
<p>This was a serious wake up call for me.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t look at law enforcement the same way now, I now see why inner city types are leery of, and won&#8217;t cooperate with, police. They know full well that these &#8220;heroes in blue&#8221; are too often just adrenalin jacked thrill seekers with guns that are immune to prosecution.</p>
<p>The utterly cavalier attitude of &#8216;detective&#8217; Kim (And by &#8216;detective&#8217; I mean &#8216;Uncaring Jack Booted Thug&#8217;) is &#8230; well, it&#8217;s appalling.</p>
<p>Then the astounding attitude of County Prosecutor Robert F. Horan in the Salvatore J. Culosi case, where no amount of negligence on the part of police will result in prosecution.</p>
<p>Horan strikes me as a prosecutor for whom &#8216;justice&#8217; means nothing. Only the conviction of those he has already deemed guilty seems to matter to him. He brags about obtaining convictions in cases with the skimpiest of evidence, then refuses to hold his precious police responsible for any wrongdoing.</p>
<p>These SWAT raids to serve non-violent warrants has to stop. There must be full transparancy and responsibility in the police departments. This attitude of &#8220;We&#8217;re just executing a raid, we can&#8217;t be held responsible&#8221; has to stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Highway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Highway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, the whole point of the Constitution and specifically the Bill of Rights is to counter the fact that *all* governments do is take away freedoms.  So they wrote a bunch into it about how the government can&#039;t do this and can&#039;t do that, and can ONLY do these certain things.  

They were trying to limit the freedom that the government took away.  I know that it&#039;s best when government IS the protector of the freedom of one person against another that would take it away, but government, by its nature, is generally the ones who take that freedom away.  And when you have efforts by all branches of the government to ignore the Constitution, that&#039;s what&#039;s going to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, the whole point of the Constitution and specifically the Bill of Rights is to counter the fact that *all* governments do is take away freedoms.  So they wrote a bunch into it about how the government can&#8217;t do this and can&#8217;t do that, and can ONLY do these certain things.  </p>
<p>They were trying to limit the freedom that the government took away.  I know that it&#8217;s best when government IS the protector of the freedom of one person against another that would take it away, but government, by its nature, is generally the ones who take that freedom away.  And when you have efforts by all branches of the government to ignore the Constitution, that&#8217;s what&#8217;s going to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happened to the idea that the government is supposed to protect our freedoms and not take them away.

And I&#039;m not just talking about the Drug War, althogh that&#039;s a large part of it. Can anyone remember a piece of legislation passed in the past year (or even 10 years) that gave freedom instead of took it away?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happened to the idea that the government is supposed to protect our freedoms and not take them away.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m not just talking about the Drug War, althogh that&#8217;s a large part of it. Can anyone remember a piece of legislation passed in the past year (or even 10 years) that gave freedom instead of took it away?</p>
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		<title>By: nemo</title>
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		<dc:creator>nemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to think that this will lead to some kind of sea-change in how the War on Drugs is conducted, but I am reminded of something that happened 7 years ago: the shoot-down of an aircraft carrying White American Christian missionaries over the Amazon by a CIA-controlled Peruvian Air Force plane (which they wouldn&#039;t have had been able to &#039;buy&#039; without &#039;aid&#039; courtesy of US taxpayer dollars). This resulted in the serious wounding of the pilot, the missionary husband flying with him and the deaths of his wife and their 6-month-old adopted child. 

In response to criticisms regarding this crime committed with the US taxpayer&#039;s dime and time, then-Represntative  Porter Goss (R) said:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;&quot;It&#039;s a shame what happened. But this is a war and, unfortunately, there are casualties.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Chiming in, we also heard from Rep. Benjamin Gilman (R):

&lt;i&gt;&quot;While not excusing or minimizing the tragedy, we must bear in mind that nearly 16,000 Americans lose their lives each year from the use and sale of illicit drugs, many of which originate in the Andean region.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I s**t you not. They said it, it&#039;s a matter of public record. Thus was the aerial butchery excused.

&lt;i&gt;This&lt;/i&gt; is the kind of mentality harbored by the DrugWarriors, which makes everyone they come into contact with a potential &#039;statistic&#039;. &lt;i&gt;This&lt;/i&gt; is why we don&#039;t hear an apology from those who were so clearly in the wrong. Hizzoner and his wife are bloody lucky to be alive, for the DrugWar is in indiscriminate killer...and those who support it don&#039;t care how many innocents die to achieve their drug-free utopia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to think that this will lead to some kind of sea-change in how the War on Drugs is conducted, but I am reminded of something that happened 7 years ago: the shoot-down of an aircraft carrying White American Christian missionaries over the Amazon by a CIA-controlled Peruvian Air Force plane (which they wouldn&#8217;t have had been able to &#8216;buy&#8217; without &#8216;aid&#8217; courtesy of US taxpayer dollars). This resulted in the serious wounding of the pilot, the missionary husband flying with him and the deaths of his wife and their 6-month-old adopted child. </p>
<p>In response to criticisms regarding this crime committed with the US taxpayer&#8217;s dime and time, then-Represntative  Porter Goss (R) said:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;&#8221;It&#8217;s a shame what happened. But this is a war and, unfortunately, there are casualties.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Chiming in, we also heard from Rep. Benjamin Gilman (R):</p>
<p><i>&#8220;While not excusing or minimizing the tragedy, we must bear in mind that nearly 16,000 Americans lose their lives each year from the use and sale of illicit drugs, many of which originate in the Andean region.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I s**t you not. They said it, it&#8217;s a matter of public record. Thus was the aerial butchery excused.</p>
<p><i>This</i> is the kind of mentality harbored by the DrugWarriors, which makes everyone they come into contact with a potential &#8217;statistic&#8217;. <i>This</i> is why we don&#8217;t hear an apology from those who were so clearly in the wrong. Hizzoner and his wife are bloody lucky to be alive, for the DrugWar is in indiscriminate killer&#8230;and those who support it don&#8217;t care how many innocents die to achieve their drug-free utopia.</p>
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		<title>By: HtownGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>HtownGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theagitator.com/2008/08/10/cheye-calvo-gets-it/#comment-167718&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pickle&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Why are private citizens held to standards orders of magnitude higher than those who are sworn to protect us?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yup, many orders of magnitude.  And Citizens lose their freedom and sometimes lives for acting rationally when surprised by police violence, whereas the police rarely lose anything for knowing and intentionally violating the public they are responsible for serving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from <a href="http://www.theagitator.com/2008/08/10/cheye-calvo-gets-it/#comment-167718" rel="nofollow">Pickle</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Why are private citizens held to standards orders of magnitude higher than those who are sworn to protect us?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yup, many orders of magnitude.  And Citizens lose their freedom and sometimes lives for acting rationally when surprised by police violence, whereas the police rarely lose anything for knowing and intentionally violating the public they are responsible for serving.</p>
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		<title>By: Cornellian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cornellian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 08:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re the third paragraph, if that&#039;s what happened, the police are lucky that I don&#039;t live in that area and am therefore not eligible to be on the jury when the mayor&#039;s damages claim gets to trial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re the third paragraph, if that&#8217;s what happened, the police are lucky that I don&#8217;t live in that area and am therefore not eligible to be on the jury when the mayor&#8217;s damages claim gets to trial.</p>
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		<title>By: tjbbpgob</title>
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		<dc:creator>tjbbpgob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 05:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get rid of r.i.c.c.o. statues and this will go away, or just shoot the bastards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get rid of r.i.c.c.o. statues and this will go away, or just shoot the bastards.</p>
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		<title>By: old fart</title>
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		<dc:creator>old fart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 03:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Mayor Calvo.  I have 4 greyhounds, and if a raiding party of cops ever shot my dogs, some of those cops would wind up dead.  If I wasn&#039;t killed first.

Join the f&#039;ing service if you just want to shoot stuff.  There are way too many Barney Fifes in law enforcement now.  Join the Marines, travel to far off lands, meet interesting and new people, and kill them.  Stop shooting Americans and their dogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Mayor Calvo.  I have 4 greyhounds, and if a raiding party of cops ever shot my dogs, some of those cops would wind up dead.  If I wasn&#8217;t killed first.</p>
<p>Join the f&#8217;ing service if you just want to shoot stuff.  There are way too many Barney Fifes in law enforcement now.  Join the Marines, travel to far off lands, meet interesting and new people, and kill them.  Stop shooting Americans and their dogs.</p>
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		<title>By: pickle</title>
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		<dc:creator>pickle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 03:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comment about the raid being &quot;exciting&quot; provides some confirmation about my (and many others&#039;) hypothesis: Those involved in the raid were so worked up over the possibility of making a high-profile arrest, they let common sense go out the window. To make a no-knock entry required the officers to believe that 30+ pounds of marijuana could be flushed, and/or the mayor was likely to engage them in a violent gun battle if they knocked and announced. They made the decision to enter the house and open fire without any recognition of possible consequences to anybody other than themselves.

It&#039;s clear that the &quot;Chief&quot; doesn&#039;t feel that investigation is a part of his duties, either before or after the fact. It&#039;s unfortunate that our legal system all but removes any criminal and civil liability in such cases of gross negligence. Why are private citizens held to standards orders of magnitude higher than those who are sworn to protect us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comment about the raid being &#8220;exciting&#8221; provides some confirmation about my (and many others&#8217;) hypothesis: Those involved in the raid were so worked up over the possibility of making a high-profile arrest, they let common sense go out the window. To make a no-knock entry required the officers to believe that 30+ pounds of marijuana could be flushed, and/or the mayor was likely to engage them in a violent gun battle if they knocked and announced. They made the decision to enter the house and open fire without any recognition of possible consequences to anybody other than themselves.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s clear that the &#8220;Chief&#8221; doesn&#8217;t feel that investigation is a part of his duties, either before or after the fact. It&#8217;s unfortunate that our legal system all but removes any criminal and civil liability in such cases of gross negligence. Why are private citizens held to standards orders of magnitude higher than those who are sworn to protect us?</p>
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		<title>By: vinnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>vinnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not big on law suites. I hope the good mayor sues the city for enough money to run for governor or president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not big on law suites. I hope the good mayor sues the city for enough money to run for governor or president.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerald A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will keep happening until the people revolt. I ever sit on a jury, I&#039;ll already know the cops are cowardly liars, and vote accordingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will keep happening until the people revolt. I ever sit on a jury, I&#8217;ll already know the cops are cowardly liars, and vote accordingly.</p>
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		<title>By: db</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 23:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“When I heard about this, all I could think of was, my goodness, this could have happened to anybody,” said Sen. Jennie Forehand.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;d like to think she means that out-of control police raids could happen to anyone, but the annoying little pessimist in the back of my mind thinks she means:  &quot;...drug dealers using an innocent&#039;s address for their evil plans could have happened to anybody.&quot;  There&#039;s a difference.  Does she &quot;get&quot; the real tragedy here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“When I heard about this, all I could think of was, my goodness, this could have happened to anybody,” said Sen. Jennie Forehand.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;d like to think she means that out-of control police raids could happen to anyone, but the annoying little pessimist in the back of my mind thinks she means:  &#8220;&#8230;drug dealers using an innocent&#8217;s address for their evil plans could have happened to anybody.&#8221;  There&#8217;s a difference.  Does she &#8220;get&#8221; the real tragedy here?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Krueger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Krueger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 23:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;#4   freedomfan 
BTW, I am very glad he mentioned those two phone calls. That the calls were made should be verifiable. Woe betide the cop who claims she didn’t make them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

They won&#039;t be verified publicly.  That would intrude upon the precious privacy of law enforcement demigods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>#4   freedomfan<br />
BTW, I am very glad he mentioned those two phone calls. That the calls were made should be verifiable. Woe betide the cop who claims she didn’t make them.</p></blockquote>
<p>They won&#8217;t be verified publicly.  That would intrude upon the precious privacy of law enforcement demigods.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Krueger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Krueger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading about raid after raid, I am convinced that the way occupants are treated has a lot more to do with intentional macho humiliation and intimidation than any kind of functional necessity.  These cops see themselves as the good guys, by definition, and whatever they do is also, by definition, good guy stuff.  Everyone else is a bad guy.  And, as everyone knows, bad guys don&#039;t matter.

This is precisely the kind of retarded self obsessed mentality that takes joy in throwing puppies off of cliffs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading about raid after raid, I am convinced that the way occupants are treated has a lot more to do with intentional macho humiliation and intimidation than any kind of functional necessity.  These cops see themselves as the good guys, by definition, and whatever they do is also, by definition, good guy stuff.  Everyone else is a bad guy.  And, as everyone knows, bad guys don&#8217;t matter.</p>
<p>This is precisely the kind of retarded self obsessed mentality that takes joy in throwing puppies off of cliffs.</p>
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