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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Windypundit</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/29/ow/comment-page-1/#comment-162333</link>
		<dc:creator>Windypundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the officer saw the cyclist commit a crime, such as disorderly conduct, he probably has the authority to arrest him, by force if necessary. Everything you see in the video could be legal if the cop had said he tried to arrest the cyclist and had to tackle him to keep him from getting away.

But the cop didn&#039;t know there&#039;d be video, so in his sworn statement, he gives an account of the incident that is plainly contradicted by the video. That could sink him unless the NYPD does some fancy footwork.

Moral of the story: If you have video of a cop committing a crime, hold onto it a little while to give him time to lie about it in the official paperwork.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the officer saw the cyclist commit a crime, such as disorderly conduct, he probably has the authority to arrest him, by force if necessary. Everything you see in the video could be legal if the cop had said he tried to arrest the cyclist and had to tackle him to keep him from getting away.</p>
<p>But the cop didn&#8217;t know there&#8217;d be video, so in his sworn statement, he gives an account of the incident that is plainly contradicted by the video. That could sink him unless the NYPD does some fancy footwork.</p>
<p>Moral of the story: If you have video of a cop committing a crime, hold onto it a little while to give him time to lie about it in the official paperwork.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/29/ow/comment-page-1/#comment-161719</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 03:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto what Chris said.

I&#039;m a cyclist, and I find CM pretty pointless and maybe even counter-productive, but at the same time, the outrage over it is ridiculous. Traffic through any major city is always slow at rush hour, and people are more or less happy to sit there in it every night of the month. Except of course for that one night a month when CM riders are out and about--then it&#039;s ZOMG how dare those cyclists interfere with our commute?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto what Chris said.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a cyclist, and I find CM pretty pointless and maybe even counter-productive, but at the same time, the outrage over it is ridiculous. Traffic through any major city is always slow at rush hour, and people are more or less happy to sit there in it every night of the month. Except of course for that one night a month when CM riders are out and about&#8211;then it&#8217;s ZOMG how dare those cyclists interfere with our commute?!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/29/ow/comment-page-1/#comment-161409</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Critical Mass rides only occur once a month here in Minneapolis/Saint Paul.

Would it be such a burden to wait a few minutes while the bikes go by? How many times have you had to wait for a funeral procession? It&#039;s not a big deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Critical Mass rides only occur once a month here in Minneapolis/Saint Paul.</p>
<p>Would it be such a burden to wait a few minutes while the bikes go by? How many times have you had to wait for a funeral procession? It&#8217;s not a big deal.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle &#187; Don&#8217;t scare err annoy white people</title>
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		<dc:creator>SayUncle &#187; Don&#8217;t scare err annoy white people</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Army of Dad</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/29/ow/comment-page-1/#comment-161350</link>
		<dc:creator>Army of Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it too much to hope for that both the cyclist and the cop will get jail time!?  I would feel bad for the cyclist except that he was acting like an asshole, and I never feel bad for cops that act like an asshole so jailtime for both would be the most fitting punishment here.

Also this CM shit has got to stop or you will see more and more of this in the future.  I know they are trying to show that riders have a right to the road, but their rights aren&#039;t more important than everyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it too much to hope for that both the cyclist and the cop will get jail time!?  I would feel bad for the cyclist except that he was acting like an asshole, and I never feel bad for cops that act like an asshole so jailtime for both would be the most fitting punishment here.</p>
<p>Also this CM shit has got to stop or you will see more and more of this in the future.  I know they are trying to show that riders have a right to the road, but their rights aren&#8217;t more important than everyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: roy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/29/ow/comment-page-1/#comment-161140</link>
		<dc:creator>roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 04:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and why do I suspect that the only lessoned learned by the NYPD will be &quot;watch for cameras&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and why do I suspect that the only lessoned learned by the NYPD will be &#8220;watch for cameras&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Helmut O' Hooligan</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/29/ow/comment-page-1/#comment-161048</link>
		<dc:creator>Helmut O' Hooligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like it or not, I believe CM is a form of civil disobedience, which is something of an American tradition.  They do the ride, traffic slows for a bit, and its over.  If they do not do anything really stupid or harm anyone, just let it go.  If they put their hands on you, defend yourself with vigor (and laugh as the dreadlocked child of privlege whines about his oppression and calls you &quot;fascist&quot;).  If they intentionally disrupt traffic for long periods, then the police would certainly be justified in citing them for obstructing traffic. But this officer&#039;s actions were clearly premeditated and involved obvious malice.  He was not trying to stop him for a violation, he was trying to intimidate CM riders and he got caught red-handed.  Book the officer for battery and look into the charges on the cyclist, which are likely fabricated.  The only thing the cyclist is probably guilty of is a lame appropriation of Dylan lyrics. I mean, could you sound any more hippy dippy than that, Mr. Long?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like it or not, I believe CM is a form of civil disobedience, which is something of an American tradition.  They do the ride, traffic slows for a bit, and its over.  If they do not do anything really stupid or harm anyone, just let it go.  If they put their hands on you, defend yourself with vigor (and laugh as the dreadlocked child of privlege whines about his oppression and calls you &#8220;fascist&#8221;).  If they intentionally disrupt traffic for long periods, then the police would certainly be justified in citing them for obstructing traffic. But this officer&#8217;s actions were clearly premeditated and involved obvious malice.  He was not trying to stop him for a violation, he was trying to intimidate CM riders and he got caught red-handed.  Book the officer for battery and look into the charges on the cyclist, which are likely fabricated.  The only thing the cyclist is probably guilty of is a lame appropriation of Dylan lyrics. I mean, could you sound any more hippy dippy than that, Mr. Long?</p>
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		<title>By: roy</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/29/ow/comment-page-1/#comment-161046</link>
		<dc:creator>roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can complain about bike riders all day too.  Riders need to pick a set of rules and stick with them.  If you want to go on sidewalks like a pedestrian, stay on the sidewalks.  If you want to ride in the road like a vehicle, stay on the road.  Either way is fine.  Don&#039;t switch between the two mid-block and then get all huffy (heh) that cars can&#039;t react fast enough to keep a safe distance from you.  If you ride across an intersection in the crosswalk, go at a pedestrian&#039;s pace so I can see you coming in time to not squish you.  If you ride alongside the road, go with the flow of traffic so I can time when to pass you without having to swerve into oncoming cars.  If you pass cars stopped at a red light on the shoulder, stay a car back in case the lead car is turning.  Don&#039;t wear skin-tight shorts unless you&#039;re built for them.  If you have a near-miss because you broke the law, learn from your mistake, don&#039;t go on TV to blame everyone else.

BUT, the only reason to think Long did anything illegal is the cop&#039;s statement, which is not credible because 75% of it is contradicted by video.  Even if Long was screwing with traffic, there&#039;s no excuse for describing his obvious effort to avoid hitting the cop as attempting to assault the cop.

For those fixated on CM&#039;s bad road-sharing manners: consider that Long, if convicted of the two misdemeanors he was charged with, faced months in prison.  Complete with bad food and forcible sodomy.  Over blatantly trumped-up charges.  Traffic violations are simply NOT an important issue in the face of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can complain about bike riders all day too.  Riders need to pick a set of rules and stick with them.  If you want to go on sidewalks like a pedestrian, stay on the sidewalks.  If you want to ride in the road like a vehicle, stay on the road.  Either way is fine.  Don&#8217;t switch between the two mid-block and then get all huffy (heh) that cars can&#8217;t react fast enough to keep a safe distance from you.  If you ride across an intersection in the crosswalk, go at a pedestrian&#8217;s pace so I can see you coming in time to not squish you.  If you ride alongside the road, go with the flow of traffic so I can time when to pass you without having to swerve into oncoming cars.  If you pass cars stopped at a red light on the shoulder, stay a car back in case the lead car is turning.  Don&#8217;t wear skin-tight shorts unless you&#8217;re built for them.  If you have a near-miss because you broke the law, learn from your mistake, don&#8217;t go on TV to blame everyone else.</p>
<p>BUT, the only reason to think Long did anything illegal is the cop&#8217;s statement, which is not credible because 75% of it is contradicted by video.  Even if Long was screwing with traffic, there&#8217;s no excuse for describing his obvious effort to avoid hitting the cop as attempting to assault the cop.</p>
<p>For those fixated on CM&#8217;s bad road-sharing manners: consider that Long, if convicted of the two misdemeanors he was charged with, faced months in prison.  Complete with bad food and forcible sodomy.  Over blatantly trumped-up charges.  Traffic violations are simply NOT an important issue in the face of that.</p>
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		<title>By: nobahdi</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/29/ow/comment-page-1/#comment-161033</link>
		<dc:creator>nobahdi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0729081bike1.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Police Report from Smoking Gun&lt;/a&gt;

I don&#039;t know why I would expect anything less, but the police report is as disgusting as the video.  

The officer claims he witnessed the &quot;defendant&quot; weaving in and out of traffic forcing cars to stop abruptly, and after instructing him to stop being a menace, the rider aimed his bike directly at the cop.</description>
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<p>I don&#8217;t know why I would expect anything less, but the police report is as disgusting as the video.  </p>
<p>The officer claims he witnessed the &#8220;defendant&#8221; weaving in and out of traffic forcing cars to stop abruptly, and after instructing him to stop being a menace, the rider aimed his bike directly at the cop.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Hohensee</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/29/ow/comment-page-1/#comment-160992</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Hohensee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They aggressively and intentionally hold up traffic by having a couple of the bikers ride right in front of cars that have right-of-way and making it impossible for them to move.

The cause, at least around here (I can&#039;t speak for CMs around the rest of the nation) is &quot;get rid of all cars and everybody ride bicycles instead&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They aggressively and intentionally hold up traffic by having a couple of the bikers ride right in front of cars that have right-of-way and making it impossible for them to move.</p>
<p>The cause, at least around here (I can&#8217;t speak for CMs around the rest of the nation) is &#8220;get rid of all cars and everybody ride bicycles instead&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: pierre</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/29/ow/comment-page-1/#comment-160987</link>
		<dc:creator>pierre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get what is to hate about these critical mass guys.  They get together and ride their bikes to bring publicity to a cause (what cause that is I cant quite figure out). 

Whats the deal?  What do they do that is out of line or annoying?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get what is to hate about these critical mass guys.  They get together and ride their bikes to bring publicity to a cause (what cause that is I cant quite figure out). </p>
<p>Whats the deal?  What do they do that is out of line or annoying?</p>
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		<title>By: Les</title>
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		<dc:creator>Les</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, it looks to me like the guy was riding his bike just like everyone else.  I certainly didn&#039;t see him riding right towards the cop, who had to walk over to him to knock him down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, it looks to me like the guy was riding his bike just like everyone else.  I certainly didn&#8217;t see him riding right towards the cop, who had to walk over to him to knock him down.</p>
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		<title>By: greenish</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/29/ow/comment-page-1/#comment-160985</link>
		<dc:creator>greenish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I also really, really want to do it at least once.&lt;/i&gt;

I biked a Critical Mass once (before I&#039;d heard much about it), and I really liked having so many people around to bike with, and not having so much traffic to worry about (it was at night), though I felt really uncomfortable when everyone started ignoring red lights. It seemed reasonable for a huge group (seriously, there was a thick line of bikers stretching hundreds of feet) to keep going through a light that turned red in the middle, but some people would try to blow through red lights which had already started. It&#039;s inevitable - even with the best of intentions, with that many people...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I also really, really want to do it at least once.</i></p>
<p>I biked a Critical Mass once (before I&#8217;d heard much about it), and I really liked having so many people around to bike with, and not having so much traffic to worry about (it was at night), though I felt really uncomfortable when everyone started ignoring red lights. It seemed reasonable for a huge group (seriously, there was a thick line of bikers stretching hundreds of feet) to keep going through a light that turned red in the middle, but some people would try to blow through red lights which had already started. It&#8217;s inevitable &#8211; even with the best of intentions, with that many people&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t agree with the severity of the cop&#039;s action, the rider is basically defenseless, was too stupid or cool to wear a helmet, and could have been seriously hurt. But....

I have watched this video several times. As far as I know, cars cyclists are supposed to yield to pedestrians, and to law enforcement officers. The cyclist did not do that, he was riding way too fast for an area with pedestrians, he rode right at the cop, making no attempt to slow down, then he swerved slightly away from the cop when he was about 10 feet away, and then back into him when he was a few feet away. I would have been tempted to knocked that jerk off his bike too (but of course, I would probably have been arrested) It&#039;s as if the cyclist was just begging for that to happen, and the cop was foolish enough to oblige him. 

CNN cleverly showed only the last few seconds in slow motion, making it look more like the cop went after him without reason. 

foxnews says:

During his arrest, Long squirmed and kicked, saying to the officers, &quot;You are pawns in the game. I&#039;m gonna have your job,&quot; the complaint said. 

FYI, I found that quote after I wrote the above paragraph, and I realize it&#039;s part of the complaint, and is not corroborated.

Also, on Foxnews, they have this quote:

Craig Radhuber said he was riding about 3 feet behind Long when he was hit.

&quot;It was unprovoked,&quot; Radhuber said. &quot;It was like the cop was waiting for him and then just checked him as he got closer. I couldn&#039;t believe it.&quot;

There was no one even close to three feet behind the cyclist. Didn&#039;t they even watch the video?

I am a cyclist, a motorcyclist, and a regular old car driver. Cyclists are the worst when it comes to obeying traffic laws and many fail to understand the fact that &quot;Share the Road&quot; does not mean &quot;Gimme the road AND the sidewalk!&quot;. They&#039;re on a 20 pound bike that can go 10-15 mph, cars are 3000 pounds and can go whatever the speed limit is, even up hill. It seems foolish to me to expect equality under those conditions, but also think it&#039;s ok to split lanes, ride up the shoulder or sidealk, blow through stop signs, etc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t agree with the severity of the cop&#8217;s action, the rider is basically defenseless, was too stupid or cool to wear a helmet, and could have been seriously hurt. But&#8230;.</p>
<p>I have watched this video several times. As far as I know, cars cyclists are supposed to yield to pedestrians, and to law enforcement officers. The cyclist did not do that, he was riding way too fast for an area with pedestrians, he rode right at the cop, making no attempt to slow down, then he swerved slightly away from the cop when he was about 10 feet away, and then back into him when he was a few feet away. I would have been tempted to knocked that jerk off his bike too (but of course, I would probably have been arrested) It&#8217;s as if the cyclist was just begging for that to happen, and the cop was foolish enough to oblige him. </p>
<p>CNN cleverly showed only the last few seconds in slow motion, making it look more like the cop went after him without reason. </p>
<p>foxnews says:</p>
<p>During his arrest, Long squirmed and kicked, saying to the officers, &#8220;You are pawns in the game. I&#8217;m gonna have your job,&#8221; the complaint said. </p>
<p>FYI, I found that quote after I wrote the above paragraph, and I realize it&#8217;s part of the complaint, and is not corroborated.</p>
<p>Also, on Foxnews, they have this quote:</p>
<p>Craig Radhuber said he was riding about 3 feet behind Long when he was hit.</p>
<p>&#8220;It was unprovoked,&#8221; Radhuber said. &#8220;It was like the cop was waiting for him and then just checked him as he got closer. I couldn&#8217;t believe it.&#8221;</p>
<p>There was no one even close to three feet behind the cyclist. Didn&#8217;t they even watch the video?</p>
<p>I am a cyclist, a motorcyclist, and a regular old car driver. Cyclists are the worst when it comes to obeying traffic laws and many fail to understand the fact that &#8220;Share the Road&#8221; does not mean &#8220;Gimme the road AND the sidewalk!&#8221;. They&#8217;re on a 20 pound bike that can go 10-15 mph, cars are 3000 pounds and can go whatever the speed limit is, even up hill. It seems foolish to me to expect equality under those conditions, but also think it&#8217;s ok to split lanes, ride up the shoulder or sidealk, blow through stop signs, etc&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Don Kosin</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/29/ow/comment-page-1/#comment-160976</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Kosin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard the &quot;bicycler&quot; had something that looked like a sword or other weapon and which you can sort of &quot;see&quot; in this vidoe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard the &#8220;bicycler&#8221; had something that looked like a sword or other weapon and which you can sort of &#8220;see&#8221; in this vidoe.</p>
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		<title>By: And We Thought Cars Were The Problem &#171; The NorLa Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/29/ow/comment-page-1/#comment-160963</link>
		<dc:creator>And We Thought Cars Were The Problem &#171; The NorLa Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And We Thought Cars Were The&#160;Problem   Via Radley Balko: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kolohe</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/29/ow/comment-page-1/#comment-160960</link>
		<dc:creator>Kolohe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;BTW, I wonder what was going on with that other cyclist who pulled over afterward and grabbed the felled cyclist’s bike?&lt;/i&gt;

I wondered about this too.  The first time through, I thought it was the cyclist who got knocked over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>BTW, I wonder what was going on with that other cyclist who pulled over afterward and grabbed the felled cyclist’s bike?</i></p>
<p>I wondered about this too.  The first time through, I thought it was the cyclist who got knocked over.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/29/ow/comment-page-1/#comment-160955</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buck B., the point isn&#039;t how long people are delayed or how often, its that the Critical Mass crowd seems to have this belief that they have the right to behave however they want and break whatever laws they like regardless of their effects on others. In that way, they remind me of cops. The cop in this case was out of line and ought to face charges, but that doesn&#039;t change the fact that every single one of those cyclists ought to have been stopped and ticketed at each intersection. 

See, the problem here is the sense of entitlement and the disregard for others. I get that cyclists have it tough, I get that cars don&#039;t often give them a safe place to ride. But that doesn&#039;t mean they have the right to take it out on whoever happens to be passing their CM route in the name of making a statement and petty revenge. Kinda like how the fact that they&#039;ve got a big old smug on doesn&#039;t give them the right to ignore traffic laws and hit pedestrians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buck B., the point isn&#8217;t how long people are delayed or how often, its that the Critical Mass crowd seems to have this belief that they have the right to behave however they want and break whatever laws they like regardless of their effects on others. In that way, they remind me of cops. The cop in this case was out of line and ought to face charges, but that doesn&#8217;t change the fact that every single one of those cyclists ought to have been stopped and ticketed at each intersection. </p>
<p>See, the problem here is the sense of entitlement and the disregard for others. I get that cyclists have it tough, I get that cars don&#8217;t often give them a safe place to ride. But that doesn&#8217;t mean they have the right to take it out on whoever happens to be passing their CM route in the name of making a statement and petty revenge. Kinda like how the fact that they&#8217;ve got a big old smug on doesn&#8217;t give them the right to ignore traffic laws and hit pedestrians.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/29/ow/comment-page-1/#comment-160954</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone contact Robert Morgenthau&#039;s office? He&#039;s the DA in New York County (a/k/a Manhattan):

Communications Office

Barbara Thompson, Director

If you are a member of the media and require assistance, please contact our Communications Office.
 (212) 335-9400</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone contact Robert Morgenthau&#8217;s office? He&#8217;s the DA in New York County (a/k/a Manhattan):</p>
<p>Communications Office</p>
<p>Barbara Thompson, Director</p>
<p>If you are a member of the media and require assistance, please contact our Communications Office.<br />
 (212) 335-9400</p>
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		<title>By: wideheavyload</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/29/ow/comment-page-1/#comment-160949</link>
		<dc:creator>wideheavyload</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here in Athens GA, we have Courteous Mass, where cyclists all get together, ride around town, and actually obey traffic laws.  Critical Mass just reinforces all the negative stereotypes about cyclists that the car drivers have, and in my opinion, makes it more likely that a cyclist will suffer a road rage incident in the future.

So, it doesn&#039;t surprise me that this cyclist suffered this fate...it happens a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in Athens GA, we have Courteous Mass, where cyclists all get together, ride around town, and actually obey traffic laws.  Critical Mass just reinforces all the negative stereotypes about cyclists that the car drivers have, and in my opinion, makes it more likely that a cyclist will suffer a road rage incident in the future.</p>
<p>So, it doesn&#8217;t surprise me that this cyclist suffered this fate&#8230;it happens a lot.</p>
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