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	<title>Comments on: Some Real Good Ethicizin&#8217;, There</title>
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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: No Straw Men : links for 2008-07-26</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/24/some-real-good-ethicizin-there/comment-page-1/#comment-159371</link>
		<dc:creator>No Straw Men : links for 2008-07-26</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 06:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Some Real Good Ethicizin&#8217;, There - Radley Balko, The Agitator There hasn’t been an ethics complaint since 2004? After Don Young, Duke Cunningham, William Jefferson, &amp; co., I’d say that’s a pretty good indication that the House’s system of enforcing ethics isn’t working all that well. (tags: Congressional_Ethics) [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Some Real Good Ethicizin&#8217;, There &#8211; Radley Balko, The Agitator There hasn’t been an ethics complaint since 2004? After Don Young, Duke Cunningham, William Jefferson, &#38; co., I’d say that’s a pretty good indication that the House’s system of enforcing ethics isn’t working all that well. (tags: Congressional_Ethics) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jwh</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/24/some-real-good-ethicizin-there/comment-page-1/#comment-158033</link>
		<dc:creator>jwh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[......which all adds up to this year NOT being a slam dunk for dems......no matter what they think.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8230;which all adds up to this year NOT being a slam dunk for dems&#8230;&#8230;no matter what they think.</p>
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		<title>By: Kit Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/24/some-real-good-ethicizin-there/comment-page-1/#comment-157951</link>
		<dc:creator>Kit Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, 2004 sounds about right unfortunately.  Ben hit the nail on the head with the mutually assured destruction, especially with how highly politicized everything was within the house during the era of DeLay.  You file a complaint against someone on our team, we&#039;ll file a complaint against someone on your team.

Combine that with the fact that the ethics committee is often stacked with less than squeaky clean members who have a penchant for doing the bidding of their party leaders.  You think these guys would be willing to go against their party to clean house?  They might as well just ask to lose all of their influence with their peers while gaining little to nothing in return.

I can&#039;t tell whether the Democrats don&#039;t care about fighting corruption or are just not competent enough to organize investigations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, 2004 sounds about right unfortunately.  Ben hit the nail on the head with the mutually assured destruction, especially with how highly politicized everything was within the house during the era of DeLay.  You file a complaint against someone on our team, we&#8217;ll file a complaint against someone on your team.</p>
<p>Combine that with the fact that the ethics committee is often stacked with less than squeaky clean members who have a penchant for doing the bidding of their party leaders.  You think these guys would be willing to go against their party to clean house?  They might as well just ask to lose all of their influence with their peers while gaining little to nothing in return.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t tell whether the Democrats don&#8217;t care about fighting corruption or are just not competent enough to organize investigations.</p>
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		<title>By: Edintally</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edintally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This may be a bit off topic, but ethics, or a lack thereof, made me think of Bush.  I think Bush&#039;s legacy will be that he finally showed the weakness within the system i.e. if everyone collectively decided to work within a perceived system, the checks and balances worked (ethics).  Bush showed everyone that if you just ignore all the customs, norms, and practices, you are free to do as you please without fear from either of the other two branches of government (unethical).

Now I&#039;m not arguing there hasn&#039;t been any of this in the past.  I&#039;m sure we could come up with plenty of examples.  I&#039;m speaking of the blatant nature of his disregard along with the number of times he did it.  meh just some rambling thoughts (no sleep last night) :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may be a bit off topic, but ethics, or a lack thereof, made me think of Bush.  I think Bush&#8217;s legacy will be that he finally showed the weakness within the system i.e. if everyone collectively decided to work within a perceived system, the checks and balances worked (ethics).  Bush showed everyone that if you just ignore all the customs, norms, and practices, you are free to do as you please without fear from either of the other two branches of government (unethical).</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m not arguing there hasn&#8217;t been any of this in the past.  I&#8217;m sure we could come up with plenty of examples.  I&#8217;m speaking of the blatant nature of his disregard along with the number of times he did it.  meh just some rambling thoughts (no sleep last night) :)</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/24/some-real-good-ethicizin-there/comment-page-1/#comment-157916</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s more about mutually assured destruction than honor among thieves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s more about mutually assured destruction than honor among thieves.</p>
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		<title>By: dad29</title>
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		<dc:creator>dad29</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not &quot;enforcing&quot; ethics.

It&#039;s the fact that House members HAVE no ethics to enforce.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not &#8220;enforcing&#8221; ethics.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the fact that House members HAVE no ethics to enforce.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike H</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/24/some-real-good-ethicizin-there/comment-page-1/#comment-157890</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obviously the &quot;honor among thieves&quot; mentality has proven a far more workable (and profitable) system of ethics for powerbrokers in Washington.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously the &#8220;honor among thieves&#8221; mentality has proven a far more workable (and profitable) system of ethics for powerbrokers in Washington.</p>
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