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	<title>Comments on: If Cato Is &#8220;Neoconservative,&#8221; I&#8217;m a Jelly Donut</title>
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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: The Agitator &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What&#8217;s (Still) the Matter with Thomas Frank?</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Agitator &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What&#8217;s (Still) the Matter with Thomas Frank?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 15:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] lefty lobbing ad hominem grenades at your perceived ideological opponents. We&#8217;ve learned that with Naomi Klein. Cato is Heritage is Reason is Fox. Neocons are libertarians are conservatives are the Christian [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] lefty lobbing ad hominem grenades at your perceived ideological opponents. We&#8217;ve learned that with Naomi Klein. Cato is Heritage is Reason is Fox. Neocons are libertarians are conservatives are the Christian [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/22/if-cato-is-neoconservative-im-a-jelly-donut/comment-page-1/#comment-157347</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chait is an idiot too.

From his TNR article,

&lt;blockquote&gt;The last two decades certainly have seen the global spread of absolutist free-market ideology. Many of the newest adherents of this creed are dictators who have learned that they can harness the riches of capitalism without permitting the freedoms once thought to flow automatically from it. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh really, like who?  Myanmar?  Zimbabwe?  Venezuala?  Oh I know...North Korea...no wait that wont work either.  Let me think....hmmm...uhhh...Cuba...no....aahhhh...hrrrmmm.  Dang, I know there must be one.  Somebody help me out here.

Chait&#039;s next sentence,

&lt;blockquote&gt;In the United States, the power of labor unions has withered, and prosperity has increasingly come to be defined as gross domestic product or the rise of the stock market, with the actual living standards of the great mass of the population an afterthought.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh yeah!  I forgot about that great dictatorship the United States.  What a tool.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Corporations, which can relocate nearly anywhere around the world, have used their flexibility as a cudgel against workers, who do not enjoy the privileges of mobility.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

While technically true I suppose, we actually don&#039;t see lots of this.  In fact, we have firms moving to the U.S. such as Japanese auto makers.  But hey, what the f*ck do we need empirical evidence for?

Chait is a tool too. Not as much of one as Klein, but still a tool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chait is an idiot too.</p>
<p>From his TNR article,</p>
<blockquote><p>The last two decades certainly have seen the global spread of absolutist free-market ideology. Many of the newest adherents of this creed are dictators who have learned that they can harness the riches of capitalism without permitting the freedoms once thought to flow automatically from it. </p></blockquote>
<p>Oh really, like who?  Myanmar?  Zimbabwe?  Venezuala?  Oh I know&#8230;North Korea&#8230;no wait that wont work either.  Let me think&#8230;.hmmm&#8230;uhhh&#8230;Cuba&#8230;no&#8230;.aahhhh&#8230;hrrrmmm.  Dang, I know there must be one.  Somebody help me out here.</p>
<p>Chait&#8217;s next sentence,</p>
<blockquote><p>In the United States, the power of labor unions has withered, and prosperity has increasingly come to be defined as gross domestic product or the rise of the stock market, with the actual living standards of the great mass of the population an afterthought.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh yeah!  I forgot about that great dictatorship the United States.  What a tool.</p>
<blockquote><p>Corporations, which can relocate nearly anywhere around the world, have used their flexibility as a cudgel against workers, who do not enjoy the privileges of mobility.</p></blockquote>
<p>While technically true I suppose, we actually don&#8217;t see lots of this.  In fact, we have firms moving to the U.S. such as Japanese auto makers.  But hey, what the f*ck do we need empirical evidence for?</p>
<p>Chait is a tool too. Not as much of one as Klein, but still a tool.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Monnier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Monnier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Klein&#039;s libel of Milton Friedman and the Cato Institute, while revealing of her ignorance, is probably representative of many on &quot;the left&quot; who conflate Republicans and their lip service to &quot;the free market&quot; (as if they even know what they&#039;re referring to) with truly libertarian (as an adjective), free-market concepts.  The informal association between libertarians and Republicans is toxic to libertarians, and Klein&#039;s libel demonstrates this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Klein&#8217;s libel of Milton Friedman and the Cato Institute, while revealing of her ignorance, is probably representative of many on &#8220;the left&#8221; who conflate Republicans and their lip service to &#8220;the free market&#8221; (as if they even know what they&#8217;re referring to) with truly libertarian (as an adjective), free-market concepts.  The informal association between libertarians and Republicans is toxic to libertarians, and Klein&#8217;s libel demonstrates this.</p>
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		<title>By: crack</title>
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		<dc:creator>crack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greg:

I don&#039;t doubt that Cato has lots of people who disagree with Pilon, but he is none the less a public face of the organization.  If Cato did great work behind the scenes and had Che Guevara writing op eds would it be the fault of the observers when they assume that the organization is full of communist revolutionaries?

As for whether Pilon is a neocon I don&#039;t know.  I consider neocons imperialists first and everything else second.  Outside of the unitary executive everything else is details.  I could be wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t doubt that Cato has lots of people who disagree with Pilon, but he is none the less a public face of the organization.  If Cato did great work behind the scenes and had Che Guevara writing op eds would it be the fault of the observers when they assume that the organization is full of communist revolutionaries?</p>
<p>As for whether Pilon is a neocon I don&#8217;t know.  I consider neocons imperialists first and everything else second.  Outside of the unitary executive everything else is details.  I could be wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Klein&#039;s confusion is easy to understand: Republicans who vote for big government also give lip service to free markets. Klein&#039;s attack vs. &quot;Disaster Capitalism&quot; misses the obvious fact that there is nothing &#039;capitalist&#039; about a company like Halliburton benefiting from cronyism. Klein&#039;s solution -- giving gov&#039;t even more power -- only ensures more such corruption.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Klein&#8217;s confusion is easy to understand: Republicans who vote for big government also give lip service to free markets. Klein&#8217;s attack vs. &#8220;Disaster Capitalism&#8221; misses the obvious fact that there is nothing &#8216;capitalist&#8217; about a company like Halliburton benefiting from cronyism. Klein&#8217;s solution &#8212; giving gov&#8217;t even more power &#8212; only ensures more such corruption.</p>
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		<title>By: Les</title>
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		<dc:creator>Les</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just noticed that the article Radley linked to links to the article I linked to.  Sorry. I am a fool. Ignore my link!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just noticed that the article Radley linked to links to the article I linked to.  Sorry. I am a fool. Ignore my link!</p>
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		<title>By: André Kenji</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/22/if-cato-is-neoconservative-im-a-jelly-donut/comment-page-1/#comment-156835</link>
		<dc:creator>André Kenji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The beginning of No Logo is not so bad. But I´ve never finished it. ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The beginning of No Logo is not so bad. But I´ve never finished it. ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Helmut O' Hooligan</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/22/if-cato-is-neoconservative-im-a-jelly-donut/comment-page-1/#comment-156780</link>
		<dc:creator>Helmut O' Hooligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a recently retired democratic socialist, I admit that I used to have a more favorable view towards Klein&#039;s arguements.  But, like most of her fans, I was not well versed in economics.  I&#039;m still no expert, but I now view Leftists like Naomi Klein as almost cartoonish (has she been portrayed on South Park yet?).  They are broken records and they try to sound like libertarians (as long as a statist Republican hostile to civil liberties is in office) while promoting the same state socialist economic policies and sucking up to the same old socialist strongmen (Chavez, Morales, etc.).  Meet the new lefty, same as the old lefty. 

At the ripe old age of 30, I&#039;m already too old for the platitudes of Klein &amp; co...   I now view their efforts to conflate two clearly distinct lines of political thought--Right-wing statism and libertarianism (left or right)--as obnoxious and slanderous, especially in the case of Friedman.  Friedman&#039;s work to end the draft and his strong criticism of drug prohibition opened my eyes.  I&#039;m still a bit skeptical on the economic side, but maybe I&#039;m still learning. The principled libertarian is no friend to big government or big corporations, contrary to the protests of Klein and her minions.  I should add that Cato published a criticism of Klein by the young writer Johan Nordberg (I think Radley posted a link to it) that savaged her book and her ideology.  It is a great read.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a recently retired democratic socialist, I admit that I used to have a more favorable view towards Klein&#8217;s arguements.  But, like most of her fans, I was not well versed in economics.  I&#8217;m still no expert, but I now view Leftists like Naomi Klein as almost cartoonish (has she been portrayed on South Park yet?).  They are broken records and they try to sound like libertarians (as long as a statist Republican hostile to civil liberties is in office) while promoting the same state socialist economic policies and sucking up to the same old socialist strongmen (Chavez, Morales, etc.).  Meet the new lefty, same as the old lefty. </p>
<p>At the ripe old age of 30, I&#8217;m already too old for the platitudes of Klein &amp; co&#8230;   I now view their efforts to conflate two clearly distinct lines of political thought&#8211;Right-wing statism and libertarianism (left or right)&#8211;as obnoxious and slanderous, especially in the case of Friedman.  Friedman&#8217;s work to end the draft and his strong criticism of drug prohibition opened my eyes.  I&#8217;m still a bit skeptical on the economic side, but maybe I&#8217;m still learning. The principled libertarian is no friend to big government or big corporations, contrary to the protests of Klein and her minions.  I should add that Cato published a criticism of Klein by the young writer Johan Nordberg (I think Radley posted a link to it) that savaged her book and her ideology.  It is a great read.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg N.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I meant Crack, not Jeremy. Apologies, Jeremy.]]></description>
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		<title>By: Greg N.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Radley, 

Jeremy&#039;s point really isn&#039;t fair. We may disagree with Pilon on the scope of executive authority, but Cato is a think tank where people are encouraged to honestly follow their reasoning where it leads. It&#039;s not some hack joint pushing whatever conforms to their preconceived ideology. Pilon holds his views sincerely, and presumably he came to them through honest research and thinking through the complex issues involved. He&#039;s not &quot;carrying water&quot; for the White House, or shilling for the administration. Frankly, I&#039;m not sure how one &quot;carries water&quot; for a concept.

I think it&#039;s a testament to Cato&#039;s intellectual honesty that someone in Pilon&#039;s position can hold the views he does and still find a public forum for them under Cato&#039;s roof. Further, Jeremy forgets that while Pilon holds his views, Cato&#039;s other legal scholars - most notably Bob Levy - (and Ed Crane, for what it&#039;s worth) hold views completely at odds with Pilon&#039;s, and their (often public) disagreement makes Cato a better place. 

Cato may or may not be a better outift when Pilon retires (and if it is, it might be for reasons other than his politics), but people shouldn&#039;t knock Cato for holding onto scholars who may have views outside libertarian dogma.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radley, </p>
<p>Jeremy&#8217;s point really isn&#8217;t fair. We may disagree with Pilon on the scope of executive authority, but Cato is a think tank where people are encouraged to honestly follow their reasoning where it leads. It&#8217;s not some hack joint pushing whatever conforms to their preconceived ideology. Pilon holds his views sincerely, and presumably he came to them through honest research and thinking through the complex issues involved. He&#8217;s not &#8220;carrying water&#8221; for the White House, or shilling for the administration. Frankly, I&#8217;m not sure how one &#8220;carries water&#8221; for a concept.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s a testament to Cato&#8217;s intellectual honesty that someone in Pilon&#8217;s position can hold the views he does and still find a public forum for them under Cato&#8217;s roof. Further, Jeremy forgets that while Pilon holds his views, Cato&#8217;s other legal scholars &#8211; most notably Bob Levy &#8211; (and Ed Crane, for what it&#8217;s worth) hold views completely at odds with Pilon&#8217;s, and their (often public) disagreement makes Cato a better place. </p>
<p>Cato may or may not be a better outift when Pilon retires (and if it is, it might be for reasons other than his politics), but people shouldn&#8217;t knock Cato for holding onto scholars who may have views outside libertarian dogma.</p>
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		<title>By: Bot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Les</title>
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		<dc:creator>Les</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A noted leftist demolishes Klein here:

http://tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=69067f1c-d089-474b-a8a0-945d1deb420b]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A noted leftist demolishes Klein here:</p>
<p><a href="http://tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=69067f1c-d089-474b-a8a0-945d1deb420b" rel="nofollow">http://tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=69067f1c-d089-474b-a8a0-945d1deb420b</a></p>
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		<title>By: Radley Balko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Radley Balko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Cato can rant and rave about how they’re great and love freedom, but if its “B. Kenneth Simon Chair in Constitutional Studies” writes something like this they really should look at themselves rather than get mad at people who judge them by their actions. The derision in your post is uncalled for when there is such a public example of a high level Cato member carrying water for extreme executive privilege.&lt;/em&gt;

That&#039;s a fair point.  And I&#039;ll be the first to say that Cato will be a better place when Pilon retires.

Still, Pilon may be a bed-wetter on national security, but he&#039;s no neocon.  He&#039;s opposed to the drug war, sodomy laws, and all consensual crimes.  He&#039;s also adamantly opposed to Weekly Standard-esque &quot;national greatness&quot; conservatism, and favors a robust interpretation of the Ninth and 14th amendments.

I&#039;m hardly a fan of Pilon, but to call him a neocon just isn&#039;t factually correct.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Cato can rant and rave about how they’re great and love freedom, but if its “B. Kenneth Simon Chair in Constitutional Studies” writes something like this they really should look at themselves rather than get mad at people who judge them by their actions. The derision in your post is uncalled for when there is such a public example of a high level Cato member carrying water for extreme executive privilege.</em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s a fair point.  And I&#8217;ll be the first to say that Cato will be a better place when Pilon retires.</p>
<p>Still, Pilon may be a bed-wetter on national security, but he&#8217;s no neocon.  He&#8217;s opposed to the drug war, sodomy laws, and all consensual crimes.  He&#8217;s also adamantly opposed to Weekly Standard-esque &#8220;national greatness&#8221; conservatism, and favors a robust interpretation of the Ninth and 14th amendments.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m hardly a fan of Pilon, but to call him a neocon just isn&#8217;t factually correct.</p>
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		<title>By: freedomfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>freedomfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Klein is taken in by a common fallacy: She thinks that all of her ideological enemies must somehow be cut from the same cloth. She is against corporatism, military interventionism, and free markets. To her, they must all be part of the same thing. She doesn&#039;t like Bush, who is following neocon foreign policy and he&#039;s a Republican who talks (but doesn&#039;t walk) a free market game. Since all Republicans (in her view) are corporatists, she files away all those things under the same category, sweeping any free market person (like Friedman) in with people like Kristol, Pinochet, and whoever else she doesn&#039;t like.

This is common on the left and the right as well. I have to imagine that an experience many libertarians share is one where people assume ideology from the first political conversation we have and then have a tough time getting past it. Most of the people I first meet talking about free markets assume I am a pro-war corporatist conservative and most I first meet talking about police power assume I must be a dope-smoking hippie liberal. It&#039;s easily as amusing as it is annoying.

The difference is that Klein isn&#039;t someone at a cocktail party. She is supposed to research the people she&#039;s writing about instead of assuming her subjects are two-dimensional cartoon cut-outs from her enemies list.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Klein is taken in by a common fallacy: She thinks that all of her ideological enemies must somehow be cut from the same cloth. She is against corporatism, military interventionism, and free markets. To her, they must all be part of the same thing. She doesn&#8217;t like Bush, who is following neocon foreign policy and he&#8217;s a Republican who talks (but doesn&#8217;t walk) a free market game. Since all Republicans (in her view) are corporatists, she files away all those things under the same category, sweeping any free market person (like Friedman) in with people like Kristol, Pinochet, and whoever else she doesn&#8217;t like.</p>
<p>This is common on the left and the right as well. I have to imagine that an experience many libertarians share is one where people assume ideology from the first political conversation we have and then have a tough time getting past it. Most of the people I first meet talking about free markets assume I am a pro-war corporatist conservative and most I first meet talking about police power assume I must be a dope-smoking hippie liberal. It&#8217;s easily as amusing as it is annoying.</p>
<p>The difference is that Klein isn&#8217;t someone at a cocktail party. She is supposed to research the people she&#8217;s writing about instead of assuming her subjects are two-dimensional cartoon cut-outs from her enemies list.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;The leftist think tanks are swimming in corporate money (I don’t have the numbers in front of me, but I’d bet most match or beat Cato in that regard), but for some reason they’re never accused of shilling.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Klein is at least consistent and probably considers all think tanks that take corporate money to be conservative by definition, just like how leftists thinks the mainstream media is inherently conservative because it&#039;s controlled by for-profit corporations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The leftist think tanks are swimming in corporate money (I don’t have the numbers in front of me, but I’d bet most match or beat Cato in that regard), but for some reason they’re never accused of shilling.</p></blockquote>
<p>Klein is at least consistent and probably considers all think tanks that take corporate money to be conservative by definition, just like how leftists thinks the mainstream media is inherently conservative because it&#8217;s controlled by for-profit corporations.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Hohensee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Hohensee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I was Balko, every time I critiqued Noami Klein, I&#039;d begin all of my paragraphs with &quot;Just like how my corporate overlords have told me....&quot;
Just as an experiment to see if she takes him seriously.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I was Balko, every time I critiqued Noami Klein, I&#8217;d begin all of my paragraphs with &#8220;Just like how my corporate overlords have told me&#8230;.&#8221;<br />
Just as an experiment to see if she takes him seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Phelps</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phelps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Silly libertarian, don&#039;t you know that &quot;neocon&quot; is just a more polite way of saying &quot;filthy jew?&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silly libertarian, don&#8217;t you know that &#8220;neocon&#8221; is just a more polite way of saying &#8220;filthy jew?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Hohensee</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/22/if-cato-is-neoconservative-im-a-jelly-donut/comment-page-1/#comment-156605</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Hohensee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although I would like to see Noami get the trouncing she&#039;s been asking for since No Logo, in my experience 99% of the time some one tries to confront a public figure with the facts, it&#039;s always an awkward experience to watch. 

It&#039;s usually some young over-eager kid who stutters out a &quot;gotcha&quot; question that sounded a lot better when they practiced it in the bathroom.  Telling people off/asking goading questions publicly is one of those things that always look cooler in the movies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I would like to see Noami get the trouncing she&#8217;s been asking for since No Logo, in my experience 99% of the time some one tries to confront a public figure with the facts, it&#8217;s always an awkward experience to watch. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s usually some young over-eager kid who stutters out a &#8220;gotcha&#8221; question that sounded a lot better when they practiced it in the bathroom.  Telling people off/asking goading questions publicly is one of those things that always look cooler in the movies.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg N.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How many times does Cato have to go through this before it&#039;s finally found &quot;not guilty&quot; of these ridiculous &quot;corporate whore&quot; charges? And now we&#039;re hearing similar stuff from &quot;our side&quot;? Come on. Cato folks are ideologues, not corporate shills. And why is it usually just Cato and friends that gets charged with this stuff? The leftist think tanks are swimming in corporate money (I don&#039;t have the numbers in front of me, but I&#039;d bet most match or beat Cato in that regard), but for some reason they&#039;re never accused of shilling.

Anyway, I&#039;d love to see Klein confronted with the facts. But I&#039;d REALLY love to see John Cusack confronted with them. Imagine a Boaz vs. Cusack debate on libertarianism, neoconservatism and the legacy of Milton Friedman. THAT would be fun to watch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many times does Cato have to go through this before it&#8217;s finally found &#8220;not guilty&#8221; of these ridiculous &#8220;corporate whore&#8221; charges? And now we&#8217;re hearing similar stuff from &#8220;our side&#8221;? Come on. Cato folks are ideologues, not corporate shills. And why is it usually just Cato and friends that gets charged with this stuff? The leftist think tanks are swimming in corporate money (I don&#8217;t have the numbers in front of me, but I&#8217;d bet most match or beat Cato in that regard), but for some reason they&#8217;re never accused of shilling.</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;d love to see Klein confronted with the facts. But I&#8217;d REALLY love to see John Cusack confronted with them. Imagine a Boaz vs. Cusack debate on libertarianism, neoconservatism and the legacy of Milton Friedman. THAT would be fun to watch.</p>
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		<title>By: nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So then no one has seen Klein ever confronted with these uncomfortable facts? I&#039;d be interested in this myself. The serious distortion of Friedman&#039;s position on Iraq alone...and I know far too many people who have read this book and not questioned these things at all. They have no idea the man was instrumental in ending the draft and instead think he engineered this deadly boondoggle out of greed&#8212;for shame.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So then no one has seen Klein ever confronted with these uncomfortable facts? I&#8217;d be interested in this myself. The serious distortion of Friedman&#8217;s position on Iraq alone&#8230;and I know far too many people who have read this book and not questioned these things at all. They have no idea the man was instrumental in ending the draft and instead think he engineered this deadly boondoggle out of greed&mdash;for shame.</p>
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