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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: mynameis</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/12/cloud-city/comment-page-1/#comment-151309</link>
		<dc:creator>mynameis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They can build a skyscraper as tall as the moon if they want, I will not be visiting Dubai. I won&#039;t even change planes there. They imprisoned a man changing planes at the airport for four years, for having 0.003 grams of cannabis stuck in the tread of his shoe - not even visible to the naked eye. That could be you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They can build a skyscraper as tall as the moon if they want, I will not be visiting Dubai. I won&#8217;t even change planes there. They imprisoned a man changing planes at the airport for four years, for having 0.003 grams of cannabis stuck in the tread of his shoe &#8211; not even visible to the naked eye. That could be you.</p>
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		<title>By: Sydney Carton</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/12/cloud-city/comment-page-1/#comment-150980</link>
		<dc:creator>Sydney Carton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bigger the better?  Yes, to some degree.  Of course the reason that Dubai is building them so tall is because they&#039;re exploiting the workers while the government subsidizes the investment.

But come on.  In Manhattan, the government interferes just as much, but on the OPPOSITE end.  They don&#039;t WANT you to build them tall.  They don&#039;t want you to make them great.  There are height restrictions all over Manhattan, in the Village, in Hell&#039;s Kitchen, etc.  I don&#039;t care that Dubai is doing it - more power to them.  But I do want our government to stop its interference.  And there&#039;s plenty of demand for living space here in Manhattan.  So I reiterate: the bigger, the better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bigger the better?  Yes, to some degree.  Of course the reason that Dubai is building them so tall is because they&#8217;re exploiting the workers while the government subsidizes the investment.</p>
<p>But come on.  In Manhattan, the government interferes just as much, but on the OPPOSITE end.  They don&#8217;t WANT you to build them tall.  They don&#8217;t want you to make them great.  There are height restrictions all over Manhattan, in the Village, in Hell&#8217;s Kitchen, etc.  I don&#8217;t care that Dubai is doing it &#8211; more power to them.  But I do want our government to stop its interference.  And there&#8217;s plenty of demand for living space here in Manhattan.  So I reiterate: the bigger, the better.</p>
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		<title>By: OGRE</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/12/cloud-city/comment-page-1/#comment-150930</link>
		<dc:creator>OGRE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patheticness or not, I like this picture very much.  Its my new wallpaper until something else more interesting comes along...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patheticness or not, I like this picture very much.  Its my new wallpaper until something else more interesting comes along&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/12/cloud-city/comment-page-1/#comment-150915</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 22:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It is absolutely pathetic that we’re not building tall skyscrapers like that here in America.&lt;/blockquote&gt;It would be &lt;i&gt;truly&lt;/i&gt; pathetic if we built anything just to impress a bunch of totalitarian sheiks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It is absolutely pathetic that we’re not building tall skyscrapers like that here in America.</p></blockquote>
<p>It would be <i>truly</i> pathetic if we built anything just to impress a bunch of totalitarian sheiks.</p>
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		<title>By: JJH2</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/12/cloud-city/comment-page-1/#comment-150891</link>
		<dc:creator>JJH2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh uh. There&#039;s some National Greatness Libertarian Skyscraper-Envy going on here (the bigger the better, baby!). 

Actually, there are lots of great reasons that enormous, ornate skyscrapers aren&#039;t being built in the US (and probably shouldn&#039;t be).  The most significant being that the same kind of space restrictions that exist in Dubai don&#039;t necessarily exist in the US. But significantly as well, the Dubai government heavily subsidizes foreign investment and construction projects, with the crown Prince of Dubai also being president of the Dubai Development and Investment Authority.  Additionally, the Emirate&#039;s most important development company, Emaar Properties, which, consequently, is building the Burj Dubai (the building the picture in Radley&#039;s link was taken from), is partially owned by the government (and many of the shares that aren&#039;t outright owned by the government are owned by prominent government officials). Not to mention that Dubai&#039;s entire construction industry is fueled by an exploitative labor system rife with human rights abuses, and where protests over unpaid wages and working conditions can result in deportation from the Emirate. 

All things considered, I&#039;ll take my buildings a little less ornate, and a little tall. In a free market, the government doesn&#039;t subsidize giant national penis-replacement projects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh uh. There&#8217;s some National Greatness Libertarian Skyscraper-Envy going on here (the bigger the better, baby!). </p>
<p>Actually, there are lots of great reasons that enormous, ornate skyscrapers aren&#8217;t being built in the US (and probably shouldn&#8217;t be).  The most significant being that the same kind of space restrictions that exist in Dubai don&#8217;t necessarily exist in the US. But significantly as well, the Dubai government heavily subsidizes foreign investment and construction projects, with the crown Prince of Dubai also being president of the Dubai Development and Investment Authority.  Additionally, the Emirate&#8217;s most important development company, Emaar Properties, which, consequently, is building the Burj Dubai (the building the picture in Radley&#8217;s link was taken from), is partially owned by the government (and many of the shares that aren&#8217;t outright owned by the government are owned by prominent government officials). Not to mention that Dubai&#8217;s entire construction industry is fueled by an exploitative labor system rife with human rights abuses, and where protests over unpaid wages and working conditions can result in deportation from the Emirate. </p>
<p>All things considered, I&#8217;ll take my buildings a little less ornate, and a little tall. In a free market, the government doesn&#8217;t subsidize giant national penis-replacement projects.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/12/cloud-city/comment-page-1/#comment-150859</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks fake to me.</description>
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		<title>By: ken j</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/12/cloud-city/comment-page-1/#comment-150747</link>
		<dc:creator>ken j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Earlier this year I was off the coast of Dubai, I had a similar view from the sea. It was at sunrise and the buildings were still lit up and the tops of them were rising from the fog. If I was a better writer, I&#039;d be able to describe the surreal beauty of it, but I&#039;m not so I won&#039;t.

I read about how Dubai has become wealthy enough to support their building boom, and it just doesn&#039;t seem sustainable to me. I think it may become the world&#039;s largest Potemkin village. But what do I know?

They also block any websites that may have adult content (hey, I&#039;m a sailor, give me a break), but you can go to the York hotel and get a whore whenever you want. In a nutshell, it&#039;s a weird place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earlier this year I was off the coast of Dubai, I had a similar view from the sea. It was at sunrise and the buildings were still lit up and the tops of them were rising from the fog. If I was a better writer, I&#8217;d be able to describe the surreal beauty of it, but I&#8217;m not so I won&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I read about how Dubai has become wealthy enough to support their building boom, and it just doesn&#8217;t seem sustainable to me. I think it may become the world&#8217;s largest Potemkin village. But what do I know?</p>
<p>They also block any websites that may have adult content (hey, I&#8217;m a sailor, give me a break), but you can go to the York hotel and get a whore whenever you want. In a nutshell, it&#8217;s a weird place.</p>
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		<title>By: Sydney Carton</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/12/cloud-city/comment-page-1/#comment-150712</link>
		<dc:creator>Sydney Carton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is absolutely pathetic that we&#039;re not building tall skyscrapers like that here in America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is absolutely pathetic that we&#8217;re not building tall skyscrapers like that here in America.</p>
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		<title>By: the friendly grizzly</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/12/cloud-city/comment-page-1/#comment-150695</link>
		<dc:creator>the friendly grizzly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take it we have heard from Greenpeace, the Sierra Club, the Natural Resources Defense Council and other eco-nut groups protesting this rampant and profligate construction that is interfering with bird migration and other blah blah blah.

Haven&#039;t we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take it we have heard from Greenpeace, the Sierra Club, the Natural Resources Defense Council and other eco-nut groups protesting this rampant and profligate construction that is interfering with bird migration and other blah blah blah.</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t we?</p>
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		<title>By: Mikestermike</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/12/cloud-city/comment-page-1/#comment-150298</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikestermike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 06:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was in Dubai more than 10 years ago...none of that was there. Intercontinental Hotel was tallest around. Man, has times changed. They&#039;ll still throw you in the clink for cough syrup, tho, so capitalism hasn&#039;t trumped idiocy, er, religion...not yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was in Dubai more than 10 years ago&#8230;none of that was there. Intercontinental Hotel was tallest around. Man, has times changed. They&#8217;ll still throw you in the clink for cough syrup, tho, so capitalism hasn&#8217;t trumped idiocy, er, religion&#8230;not yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/12/cloud-city/comment-page-1/#comment-150295</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 05:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you sure it&#039;s a picture? It looks like the CGI landscape of some futuristic movie...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you sure it&#8217;s a picture? It looks like the CGI landscape of some futuristic movie&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ftp</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/12/cloud-city/comment-page-1/#comment-150291</link>
		<dc:creator>ftp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 05:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>beautiful view from the top of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>beautiful view from the top of the world.</p>
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