Comments on: The Party of Limited Government http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/01/the-party-of-limited-government/ It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:54:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2 By: Dept. of Illuminating Graphs | Miscellaneous Heathen http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/01/the-party-of-limited-government/comment-page-1/#comment-2313425 Dept. of Illuminating Graphs | Miscellaneous Heathen Sat, 10 Dec 2011 21:20:07 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=10213#comment-2313425 [...] out this post over at the Agitator, especially if you still think of the GOP as the party of fiscal [...] [...] out this post over at the Agitator, especially if you still think of the GOP as the party of fiscal [...]

]]> By: Lee Jones http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/01/the-party-of-limited-government/comment-page-1/#comment-143457 Lee Jones Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:45:43 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=10213#comment-143457 As I understand it LBJ spent the "Social Security Trust Fund" on the Great Society first, then started to borrow money for those programs, and Vietnam. Reagan had a Democratic congress to help him spend money, and Clinton had a Republican one to help him not spend money. As I understand it LBJ spent the “Social Security Trust Fund” on the Great Society first, then started to borrow money for those programs, and Vietnam.

Reagan had a Democratic congress to help him spend money, and Clinton had a Republican one to help him not spend money.

]]> By: Gregory Morris http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/01/the-party-of-limited-government/comment-page-1/#comment-142614 Gregory Morris Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:36:59 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=10213#comment-142614 "How about you post a graph that’s inflation-adjusted?" I partially agree with you, but there is more than a simple a correlation between inflation and national debt. If an increase in debt causes inflation to increase faster, then an inflation-adjusted graph would basically be missing information. “How about you post a graph that’s inflation-adjusted?”

I partially agree with you, but there is more than a simple a correlation between inflation and national debt. If an increase in debt causes inflation to increase faster, then an inflation-adjusted graph would basically be missing information.

]]> By: jwh http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/01/the-party-of-limited-government/comment-page-1/#comment-142594 jwh Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:58:20 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=10213#comment-142594 For the anti-Reagan comments......correct me if I'm wrong (but I'm not) he had 8 budgets that were declared DOA by the Democrat-controlled congress...... For the anti-Reagan comments……correct me if I’m wrong (but I’m not) he had 8 budgets that were declared DOA by the Democrat-controlled congress……

]]> By: JohnMcC http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/01/the-party-of-limited-government/comment-page-1/#comment-142586 JohnMcC Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:34:11 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=10213#comment-142586 Another bit of Reagan's economic brilliance: "Defense is not a budget item." Another bit of Reagan’s economic brilliance: “Defense is not a budget item.”

]]> By: SayUncle » Remember when http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/01/the-party-of-limited-government/comment-page-1/#comment-142585 SayUncle » Remember when Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:32:57 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=10213#comment-142585 [...] Republicans were the party of smaller government? [...] [...] Republicans were the party of smaller government? [...]

]]> By: Alsadius http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/01/the-party-of-limited-government/comment-page-1/#comment-142127 Alsadius Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:32:35 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=10213#comment-142127 How about you post a graph that's inflation-adjusted? It might provide an accurate representation of the situation. It's not that debt is good, but it hasn't increased nearly as fast as that graph indicates. How about you post a graph that’s inflation-adjusted? It might provide an accurate representation of the situation. It’s not that debt is good, but it hasn’t increased nearly as fast as that graph indicates.

]]> By: chsw http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/01/the-party-of-limited-government/comment-page-1/#comment-141965 chsw Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:14:38 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=10213#comment-141965 There are better ways of illustrating the issue. First, plot deficit growth rate against time, and against Republicans in office. Second, plot the fastest growing Federal programs versus time and then against the party that passed the program. What you'll find is that the programs throwing Federal finance into the crapper are, with the exception of the prescription benefit boondoggle, Democratic inventions. If Libertarians were in power today, I doubt that they would muster enough support to peel back Social Security, Medicare, AFDC, Food Stamps, block grants, various specialized programs, etc. However, if Libertarians ever obtain a Congressional majority, then they will also be subject to the timeline graph. chsw There are better ways of illustrating the issue. First, plot deficit growth rate against time, and against Republicans in office. Second, plot the fastest growing Federal programs versus time and then against the party that passed the program.

What you’ll find is that the programs throwing Federal finance into the crapper are, with the exception of the prescription benefit boondoggle, Democratic inventions.

If Libertarians were in power today, I doubt that they would muster enough support to peel back Social Security, Medicare, AFDC, Food Stamps, block grants, various specialized programs, etc. However, if Libertarians ever obtain a Congressional majority, then they will also be subject to the timeline graph.

chsw

]]> By: dave smith http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/01/the-party-of-limited-government/comment-page-1/#comment-141942 dave smith Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:26:21 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=10213#comment-141942 I'll agree that Republicans cannot claim to be leaders in fiscal responsiblity, but I don't think that the government debt has much to do with how limited government is. At least, it would never occur to me to use government debt as a meausure of how limited and intrusive government is in an individual's life. I’ll agree that Republicans cannot claim to be leaders in fiscal responsiblity, but I don’t think that the government debt has much to do with how limited government is.

At least, it would never occur to me to use government debt as a meausure of how limited and intrusive government is in an individual’s life.

]]> By: FP http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/01/the-party-of-limited-government/comment-page-1/#comment-141800 FP Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:40:30 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=10213#comment-141800 Proof that neither party is pro limited government for sure. Reagan and up each adding, roughly 1 trillion to the tab. Though I find it amusing they chose 1968 as the starting year, given it was the start of the "war on poverty" aka Johnson's Great Society. Proof that neither party is pro limited government for sure. Reagan and up each adding, roughly 1 trillion to the tab. Though I find it amusing they chose 1968 as the starting year, given it was the start of the “war on poverty” aka Johnson’s Great Society.

]]> By: Ben R. http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/01/the-party-of-limited-government/comment-page-1/#comment-141798 Ben R. Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:38:14 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=10213#comment-141798 I wonder what proportion of that is military spending. I wonder what proportion of that is military spending.

]]> By: JohnMcC http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/01/the-party-of-limited-government/comment-page-1/#comment-141670 JohnMcC Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:54:28 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=10213#comment-141670 For a wage earner in a family of 3, about $4,000/yr is added to his taxes by the interest that must be paid. This doesn't pay anything on the principal. Debt of this magnatude has de-valued the dollar so that coffee costs $7 a bag. This has consequences. The rapid fall in the dollar's value has stimulated speculation. When we pump gas at $4/gal we are paying roughly $1.50 to $2.00/gal as a tax imposed by the likes of the Saudi Royals, Vladimir Putin or Chavez. Of course, our vice president has said that 'Reagan proved deficits don't matter.' Good work!! For a wage earner in a family of 3, about $4,000/yr is added to his taxes by the interest that must be paid. This doesn’t pay anything on the principal. Debt of this magnatude has de-valued the dollar so that coffee costs $7 a bag. This has consequences. The rapid fall in the dollar’s value has stimulated speculation. When we pump gas at $4/gal we are paying roughly $1.50 to $2.00/gal as a tax imposed by the likes of the Saudi Royals, Vladimir Putin or Chavez.

Of course, our vice president has said that ‘Reagan proved deficits don’t matter.’

Good work!!

]]> By: O’DonnellWeb - This is not a homeschooling blog » Blog Archive » The party of limited government http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/01/the-party-of-limited-government/comment-page-1/#comment-141666 O’DonnellWeb - This is not a homeschooling blog » Blog Archive » The party of limited government Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:51:40 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=10213#comment-141666 [...] via The Agitator. [...] [...] via The Agitator. [...]

]]> By: COD http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/01/the-party-of-limited-government/comment-page-1/#comment-141665 COD Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:48:04 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=10213#comment-141665 They keep using that word limited. I do not think it means what they think it means. They keep using that word limited. I do not think it means what they think it means.

]]> By: colson http://www.theagitator.com/2008/07/01/the-party-of-limited-government/comment-page-1/#comment-141657 colson Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:33:22 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/?p=10213#comment-141657 At first I thought it was a graph from GraphJam again until I saw the credit to Sullivan. Haha, jokes on me I guess. At first I thought it was a graph from GraphJam again until I saw the credit to Sullivan. Haha, jokes on me I guess.

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