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	<title>Comments on: Coupla&#8217; Raid Updates</title>
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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: The Agitator &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Morning Links</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/06/26/coupla-raid-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-208591</link>
		<dc:creator>The Agitator &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Morning Links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] drug raid earlier this year, has filed lawsuit. I hope they get a lot of money.  The police are typically stonewalling, but the more we learn about that raid, the uglier it [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] drug raid earlier this year, has filed lawsuit. I hope they get a lot of money.  The police are typically stonewalling, but the more we learn about that raid, the uglier it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dave W.</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/06/26/coupla-raid-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-140574</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slightly off-topic, but this is one of those stories where police are asserting that it is a crime to audio tape them:

http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060701/NEWS01/107010079

worth checking out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slightly off-topic, but this is one of those stories where police are asserting that it is a crime to audio tape them:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060701/NEWS01/107010079" rel="nofollow">http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060701/NEWS01/107010079</a></p>
<p>worth checking out.</p>
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		<title>By: Max D.</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/06/26/coupla-raid-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-139370</link>
		<dc:creator>Max D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Relevant, but didn&#039;t find anything about it on this blog:

http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070314/NEWS/703140547

Homeowner had &#039;a right to resist&#039;

Judge acquits John Coffin on 5 felony charges; Coffin gets time served on 6th.

BY Todd Ruger

Published Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 4:30 a.m.
Last updated Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 5:36 a.m.

SARASOTA — John Coffin won&#039;t spend any more time in jail for beating up two sheriff&#039;s deputies inside his house, striking one in the head with a Taser gun he took from the other.

Circuit Judge Rick De Furia said at Coffin&#039;s trial Tuesday that he doesn&#039;t condone the violence against the deputies.

But Coffin, 56, had a right to defend his family and property because the deputies had no right to be in Coffin&#039;s house in the first place, De Furia said.

&quot;Law enforcement was responsible for the chain of events here,&quot; De Furia said. &quot;I think in situations like this, officers become so frustrated they go beyond what the law allows them to do.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Relevant, but didn&#8217;t find anything about it on this blog:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070314/NEWS/703140547" rel="nofollow">http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070314/NEWS/703140547</a></p>
<p>Homeowner had &#8216;a right to resist&#8217;</p>
<p>Judge acquits John Coffin on 5 felony charges; Coffin gets time served on 6th.</p>
<p>BY Todd Ruger</p>
<p>Published Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 4:30 a.m.<br />
Last updated Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 5:36 a.m.</p>
<p>SARASOTA — John Coffin won&#8217;t spend any more time in jail for beating up two sheriff&#8217;s deputies inside his house, striking one in the head with a Taser gun he took from the other.</p>
<p>Circuit Judge Rick De Furia said at Coffin&#8217;s trial Tuesday that he doesn&#8217;t condone the violence against the deputies.</p>
<p>But Coffin, 56, had a right to defend his family and property because the deputies had no right to be in Coffin&#8217;s house in the first place, De Furia said.</p>
<p>&#8220;Law enforcement was responsible for the chain of events here,&#8221; De Furia said. &#8220;I think in situations like this, officers become so frustrated they go beyond what the law allows them to do.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tokin42</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/06/26/coupla-raid-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-139356</link>
		<dc:creator>Tokin42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to double post, but it just hit me that the trial is at the end of january, and you know it will get at least a couple of delays before it actually starts.  Meaning, Ryan will have spent over a year in jail just waiting.  Seems more like a prosecutor tactic than anything else.  How much more time do they need to prepare for what is, according to them, an open and shut issue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to double post, but it just hit me that the trial is at the end of january, and you know it will get at least a couple of delays before it actually starts.  Meaning, Ryan will have spent over a year in jail just waiting.  Seems more like a prosecutor tactic than anything else.  How much more time do they need to prepare for what is, according to them, an open and shut issue?</p>
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		<title>By: Tokin42</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/06/26/coupla-raid-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-139355</link>
		<dc:creator>Tokin42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luck and good Karma to ryan, and great editorial in the minuteman.  People are taking notice, too bad the body count is going to have to get much higher before anyone actually does anything about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luck and good Karma to ryan, and great editorial in the minuteman.  People are taking notice, too bad the body count is going to have to get much higher before anyone actually does anything about it.</p>
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		<title>By: MacK</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/06/26/coupla-raid-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-139213</link>
		<dc:creator>MacK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“That a law is ethically and morally valid is beside the point for law enforcement personnel.&quot;

Do you think they meant invalid, and not valid?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“That a law is ethically and morally valid is beside the point for law enforcement personnel.&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you think they meant invalid, and not valid?</p>
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		<title>By: MacK</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/06/26/coupla-raid-updates/comment-page-1/#comment-139205</link>
		<dc:creator>MacK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless your breath is baited with the sweet aroma of the hemp plant you may wait for a long time before you see any charges.

&quot;That a law is ethically and morally valid is beside the point for law enforcement personnel. It is the job of legislatures to debate the validity of a law - the prohibition against marijuana for example - not those police personnel charged with the task of enforcement.&quot;

This is very similar to the just following orders argument, and we saw how well that worked for the Nazi regime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless your breath is baited with the sweet aroma of the hemp plant you may wait for a long time before you see any charges.</p>
<p>&#8220;That a law is ethically and morally valid is beside the point for law enforcement personnel. It is the job of legislatures to debate the validity of a law &#8211; the prohibition against marijuana for example &#8211; not those police personnel charged with the task of enforcement.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is very similar to the just following orders argument, and we saw how well that worked for the Nazi regime.</p>
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