Morning Links

Tuesday, June 3rd, 2008
  • U.S. accused of harboring secret, floating prisons on U.S. warships.
  • Jailed Egyptian blogger Karim el-Beheiri is freed. He says he was beaten and tortured while in prison.
  • David Boaz on the collectivist nature of the three major party candidates still running for president.
  • Missouri Utah lawmaker wants to make it criminal for sex ed instructors to answer students’ questions about masturbation, homosexuality, and other devil’s doin’s. Because everyone knows that if we keep our middle and high schoolers stupid and ignorant about sex, they’ll never try it.
  • Nasty provision tucked into the new farm bill makes it more difficult to file FOIA requests to discover just how wasteful and corrupt the new farm bill really is. That’s one way to deal with criticism, I guess.
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  • 15 Responses to “Morning Links”

    1. #1 |  Dave Krueger | 

      I think sex ed in school does a disservice to our young people who are then deprived of learning the essentials like we ourselves did, through exciting trial and error experimentation.

    2. #2 |  Dave Krueger | 

      Instead of encouraging community service, perhaps the candidates should just ask people to voluntarily pay a little extra on their taxes. It’s really the same thing. Oh, wait. They will be paying extra, but it won’t be voluntary.

      McCain thinks everyone should have to do a stint in the military because he’s afraid there won’t be enough soldiers to man the new wars he has planned. That prick, Bush, used them all up.

    3. #3 |  jhc | 

      Shouldn’t that be “Utah lawmaker wants to make it criminal…”?

    4. #4 |  Nando | 

      On the Utah sex-ed story, the article says that Utah law requires sex-ed to “focus on physical and emotional development of adolescents, healthy relationships and the threat and prevention of diseases. The law prohibits promoting or encouraging sexual behavior.” Isn’t masturbation part of physical development, not to mention a way to prevent diseases? The teacher doesn’t have to tell the kids to do it, just say that it’s a way to not get sick and that it’s normal for kids to masturbate. I don’t see a problem.

    5. #5 |  Bronwyn | 

      If the next president somehow manages to enact mandatory military or military-like service, I WILL leave.

      That will absolutely be the last fucking straw and I will not raise my children in such a country.

      We’re already scouting out properties where we can establish our refuge, but I won’t stay in this country if it comes to mandatory service.

    6. #6 |  Bronwyn | 

      I see a problem with parents freaking out over what’s taught in the sex-ed classroom. The nincompoops decided they couldn’t handle it themselves, wanted somebody else to do it, so somebody else is doing it and now the parents bitch because they want to control what’s taught?

      Then teach your kids yourselves, you idiots!

      Sorry, I’m in a mood today. Leave it to Radley to give me a place and the topics on which to vent :)

    7. #7 |  ClubMedSux | 

      You know, if they’d just take the damn internet filters off of the school computers, teaching students about masturbation really wouldn’t be necessary.

    8. #8 |  Thomas Paine's Goiter | 

      I wish there was a presidential candidate somewhere with balls. Someone willing to declassify everything as their first act as president.

    9. #9 |  jwh | 

      “I wish there was a presidential candidate somewhere with balls. Someone willing to declassify everything as their first act as president.”

      Hey, Goiter…..what exactly are you looking for? The truth about Roswell? Who shot Kennedy?

    10. #10 |  jwh | 

      Relax, Bronwyn

      “If the next president somehow manages to enact mandatory military or military-like service, I WILL leave.” Really?

      Seems to me that last time I heard someone make an empty promise like that was Alex Baldwin……last I heard, he’s thinking about running for Governor of New York.

      But, hey, when you find your refuge that truly is better than where you are now (with or without mandatory service….), let us know……somehow, I’m guessing it’s going to be right here in the ol’ US of A…….

    11. #11 |  ClubMedSux | 

      “Seems to me that last time I heard someone make an empty promise like that was Alex Baldwin……”

      Alex Baldwin? You mean there’s ANOTHER Baldwin brother? Now there’s a reason to leave the country…

    12. #12 |  Roy | 

      Look, folks. You need to take a deep breath and calm down. *Some* parents objected to something a government school indoctrinator foisted onto their kids. They petitioned their representative who is going to introduce legislation at their behest.

      Isn’t that the way it’s supposed to work?

      Am I correct in seeing that a lot of you want the government school system to override the law and the parents wishes? If you are a resident of Utah, and you disagree, then contact *your* representative and voice your objections. If you are *not* a resident of Utah, then it’s none of your business. Butt out.

      “The nincompoops decided they couldn’t handle it themselves, wanted somebody else to do it, so somebody else is doing it and now the parents bitch because they want to control what’s taught?”

      Do you seriously believe, Bronwyn, that the parents that complained are the ones who “wanted somebody else to do it”? (I suspect that the nincompoops are not who you think they are.) No, these parents objected because they are heartily tired of having these government sex education programs foisted on them by the schools whether they like it or not. In this case, the law is on their side.

      And who, exactly, *should* control what’s taught?

      You?

      Me?

      How about the people – the parents – of Utah? Should they not have a say in it at all?

      “Then teach your kids yourselves, you idiots!”

      If they had just given back the damned money so people could afford it, most would have gladly done exactly that, or sent them to a suitable private school. Nonetheless, as long as the government foists “compulsory” education on children, then the parents of those children, even a minority number of them, have a right to at least a say in what gets taught.

      And here I thought this place was a refuge for libertarians…

      “If the next president somehow manages to enact mandatory military or military-like service, I WILL leave.”

      Why wait, Bronwyn. Do it now while the borders are wide open. And don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

    13. #13 |  Nick M. | 

      So, Roy, What exactly is the teacher supposed to do when the kids f’ing ask? Tell them that according to the state legislature, those things don’t exist?

    14. #14 |  Dave Krueger | 

      Regarding the Utah sex ed story…

      Wouldn’t it be nice if you could just jerk your kid out of a school you didn’t like and put him in one you did like? It would also give the schools an answer for how to deal with parents who want the school to conform to their own personal beliefs: “It’s unfortunate that we aren’t meeting your requirements, Ms. Smith, but our philosophy is carefully tailored to attract a particular clientèle who, I might add, far outnumber the places we have available for them. May I suggest you withdraw you child and get the fuck out.”

    15. #15 |  e. brown | 

      hmmm. well, since teachers are always telling us how necessary and smart they are – usually when they come begging for yet another undeserved raise; or a bump in their already overly generous pensions – a truly *bright* teacher might, when the kids f’ing ask, they **might** say something like “that’s something you’ll need to ask your parents.”

      and yet they were unable to figure that out all by themselves. odd.

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