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		<title>By: damnum absque injuria</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/27/gaffe-proneobama/comment-page-1/#comment-131944</link>
		<dc:creator>damnum absque injuria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Silly Season...&lt;/strong&gt;

The G.O.P. has lost both houses of Congress, and since lost three special elections in what should have been safe Republican seats, and now faces polling numbers indicating that a rabid socialist committed to defeat in the Middle East may, by repeatedl...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Silly Season&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The G.O.P. has lost both houses of Congress, and since lost three special elections in what should have been safe Republican seats, and now faces polling numbers indicating that a rabid socialist committed to defeat in the Middle East may, by repeatedl&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Xrlq</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/27/gaffe-proneobama/comment-page-1/#comment-127547</link>
		<dc:creator>Xrlq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 18:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Frankly, I’m not really even sure the latest Obama gaffe is really a gaffe. Grammatically awkward, maybe.  But it&#039;s pretty clear that he&#039;s referring back to &quot;heroes,&quot; not &quot;fallen heroes.&quot; His mistake seems to have been to use the word &quot;them&quot; instead of &quot;heroes&quot; in the second part of the quote.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hardly.  His real mistake was completely missing the point of Memorial Day, which is to remember the fallen heroes.  We have a holiday for honoring the unfallen ones; it&#039;s called Veteran&#039;s Day.

&lt;blockquote&gt;The other gaffe the righty blogosphere&#039;s jumping on is Obama&#039;s statement that his uncle helped liberate Auschwitz.  As it turns out, it was his great uncle, and it was Buchenwald.  Again, this isn&#039;t even cringe-worthy, much less dishonest.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

For those of us who&#039;d like a commander-in-chief to know the basics about modern history, placing his non-uncle on the eastern front of Hitler&#039;s crumbling empire is pretty damned sad.  Equally sad is confusing a relatively obscure (to Americans, anyway) slave labor camp where roughly 50 thousand died with a very well known mass extermination site where well over a million did.  Mixing up one slave labor camp with another (&lt;i&gt;e.g.,&lt;/i&gt; Dachau) would have been an understandable error.  Mixing up a slave labor camp where roughly 50,000 died with a mass extermination camp where well over 1 million did is not.

&lt;blockquote&gt;It is sorta&#039; cute, though, to watch the right-wingers and longtime defenders of President Bush attack Obama for—of all things—his inability to speak articulately.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hardly.  What&#039;s &quot;cute&quot; is the eagerness of Bush&#039;s detractors to ignore such gaffes after milking infinitely milder (and in some cases, fabricated) &quot;Bushism&quot; for the past eight years.  What makes it doubly &quot;cute&quot; is that the guy they&#039;re excusing now for being so inarticulate is a political neophyte who, until very recently, ran a campaign almost entirely on the fact that he supposedly &lt;i&gt;was&lt;/i&gt; so articulate.  Bush never campaigned on that, but AFAIK, he&#039;s also never said anything nearly as dumb as the two Obama screwups you pooh-pooh (to say nothing about his seven imaginary states, at least two of which must be lodged between his home state and Kentucky).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Frankly, I’m not really even sure the latest Obama gaffe is really a gaffe. Grammatically awkward, maybe.  But it&#8217;s pretty clear that he&#8217;s referring back to &#8220;heroes,&#8221; not &#8220;fallen heroes.&#8221; His mistake seems to have been to use the word &#8220;them&#8221; instead of &#8220;heroes&#8221; in the second part of the quote.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hardly.  His real mistake was completely missing the point of Memorial Day, which is to remember the fallen heroes.  We have a holiday for honoring the unfallen ones; it&#8217;s called Veteran&#8217;s Day.</p>
<blockquote><p>The other gaffe the righty blogosphere&#8217;s jumping on is Obama&#8217;s statement that his uncle helped liberate Auschwitz.  As it turns out, it was his great uncle, and it was Buchenwald.  Again, this isn&#8217;t even cringe-worthy, much less dishonest.</p></blockquote>
<p>For those of us who&#8217;d like a commander-in-chief to know the basics about modern history, placing his non-uncle on the eastern front of Hitler&#8217;s crumbling empire is pretty damned sad.  Equally sad is confusing a relatively obscure (to Americans, anyway) slave labor camp where roughly 50 thousand died with a very well known mass extermination site where well over a million did.  Mixing up one slave labor camp with another (<i>e.g.,</i> Dachau) would have been an understandable error.  Mixing up a slave labor camp where roughly 50,000 died with a mass extermination camp where well over 1 million did is not.</p>
<blockquote><p>It is sorta&#8217; cute, though, to watch the right-wingers and longtime defenders of President Bush attack Obama for—of all things—his inability to speak articulately.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hardly.  What&#8217;s &#8220;cute&#8221; is the eagerness of Bush&#8217;s detractors to ignore such gaffes after milking infinitely milder (and in some cases, fabricated) &#8220;Bushism&#8221; for the past eight years.  What makes it doubly &#8220;cute&#8221; is that the guy they&#8217;re excusing now for being so inarticulate is a political neophyte who, until very recently, ran a campaign almost entirely on the fact that he supposedly <i>was</i> so articulate.  Bush never campaigned on that, but AFAIK, he&#8217;s also never said anything nearly as dumb as the two Obama screwups you pooh-pooh (to say nothing about his seven imaginary states, at least two of which must be lodged between his home state and Kentucky).</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/27/gaffe-proneobama/comment-page-1/#comment-122763</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 16:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think &quot;audacity&quot; is the only word which describes what the Bushonauts did to Kerry and Chambliss did to Cleland, but this is a family portal, and so the ones I have in mind I&#039;ll keep to myself.  Use your imagination.  But I&#039;ll give you a hint, a la Barbara Bush:  It rhymes with full hit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think &#8220;audacity&#8221; is the only word which describes what the Bushonauts did to Kerry and Chambliss did to Cleland, but this is a family portal, and so the ones I have in mind I&#8217;ll keep to myself.  Use your imagination.  But I&#8217;ll give you a hint, a la Barbara Bush:  It rhymes with full hit.</p>
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		<title>By: David Nieporent</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/27/gaffe-proneobama/comment-page-1/#comment-121052</link>
		<dc:creator>David Nieporent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 01:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chambliss did not attack Cleland&#039;s patriotism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chambliss did not attack Cleland&#8217;s patriotism.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/27/gaffe-proneobama/comment-page-1/#comment-120936</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 22:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Again, this isn’t even cringe-worthy, much less dishonest. &quot;

This was clearly dishonest.  How does one make a mistake that isn&#039;t even historically possible.  If the Americans had liberated Auschwitz, I might be able to agree it was a mistake, but come on.  He used Auschwitz because everyone knows that name, not because he made a mistake.  Even if it was a mistake, do you really what a president with that wonderful grasp of history?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Again, this isn’t even cringe-worthy, much less dishonest. &#8221;</p>
<p>This was clearly dishonest.  How does one make a mistake that isn&#8217;t even historically possible.  If the Americans had liberated Auschwitz, I might be able to agree it was a mistake, but come on.  He used Auschwitz because everyone knows that name, not because he made a mistake.  Even if it was a mistake, do you really what a president with that wonderful grasp of history?</p>
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		<title>By: old</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/27/gaffe-proneobama/comment-page-1/#comment-120173</link>
		<dc:creator>old</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 05:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How about a discussion of the word &#039;ilk,&#039; in my opinion that word has not appeared enough in this post.  All of the above should read, &lt;i&gt;those who torture and their ilk&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;those who would use the word rovian and their ilk&lt;/i&gt;, and &lt;i&gt;those who would use the word chicken-hawk and their ilk&lt;/i&gt;.  People just can&#039;t use the word &lt;b&gt;ilk&lt;/b&gt; enough.  Especially when they get all up in arms about something.  &lt;i&gt;Rachel Ray and her ilk blew up a bus station in Paducah Kentucky today with jelly donuts.  It was rumored the town had no Dunkin&#039; Donuts.  Apparently the store masqueraded as a normal American store until this day.&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a discussion of the word &#8216;ilk,&#8217; in my opinion that word has not appeared enough in this post.  All of the above should read, <i>those who torture and their ilk</i>, <i>those who would use the word rovian and their ilk</i>, and <i>those who would use the word chicken-hawk and their ilk</i>.  People just can&#8217;t use the word <b>ilk</b> enough.  Especially when they get all up in arms about something.  <i>Rachel Ray and her ilk blew up a bus station in Paducah Kentucky today with jelly donuts.  It was rumored the town had no Dunkin&#8217; Donuts.  Apparently the store masqueraded as a normal American store until this day.</i></p>
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		<title>By: jwh</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/27/gaffe-proneobama/comment-page-1/#comment-119831</link>
		<dc:creator>jwh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 19:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The definition of torture is what the US does to it&#039;s prisoners.....those who oppose us NEVER torture anyone......and their methods of execution are never inhumane, either......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The definition of torture is what the US does to it&#8217;s prisoners&#8230;..those who oppose us NEVER torture anyone&#8230;&#8230;and their methods of execution are never inhumane, either&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: James D</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/27/gaffe-proneobama/comment-page-1/#comment-119814</link>
		<dc:creator>James D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 19:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s because the definition of &#039;torture&#039; depends on opinion.  And Abu Ghraib wasn&#039;t exactly &#039;sanctioned&#039; behavior.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s because the definition of &#8216;torture&#8217; depends on opinion.  And Abu Ghraib wasn&#8217;t exactly &#8216;sanctioned&#8217; behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/27/gaffe-proneobama/comment-page-1/#comment-119748</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 17:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So Bush&#039;s gaffe of &#039;We do not torture&#039; was because he speaks like an idiot and not outright lying.

Glad you cleared that up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Bush&#8217;s gaffe of &#8216;We do not torture&#8217; was because he speaks like an idiot and not outright lying.</p>
<p>Glad you cleared that up.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/27/gaffe-proneobama/comment-page-1/#comment-119712</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 16:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t regularly use the term &quot;chickenhawk&#039; but I think it&#039;s best applied to military age people who &lt;i&gt;insist&lt;/i&gt; that things like the Iraq war are imperative for the continuation of western civilization, just not imperative enough to sign up themselves.  To my thinking, if a person genuinely believes that their way of life was on the line, they&#039;d be fighting.   

This is not to say that any support of military action needs to come from those who&#039;ve been in the armed forces, just that the place that these guys are arguing from is disingenuous.   Especially so when they react to troop shortages by implying that other military age people are cowards for not serving in the military.  Or better still, when they accuse those who are opposed to military action of cowardice. 

Frankly, I have a low opinion of those who demand that others should sacrifice in the service of their own lofty goals.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t regularly use the term &#8220;chickenhawk&#8217; but I think it&#8217;s best applied to military age people who <i>insist</i> that things like the Iraq war are imperative for the continuation of western civilization, just not imperative enough to sign up themselves.  To my thinking, if a person genuinely believes that their way of life was on the line, they&#8217;d be fighting.   </p>
<p>This is not to say that any support of military action needs to come from those who&#8217;ve been in the armed forces, just that the place that these guys are arguing from is disingenuous.   Especially so when they react to troop shortages by implying that other military age people are cowards for not serving in the military.  Or better still, when they accuse those who are opposed to military action of cowardice. </p>
<p>Frankly, I have a low opinion of those who demand that others should sacrifice in the service of their own lofty goals.</p>
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		<title>By: James D</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/27/gaffe-proneobama/comment-page-1/#comment-119660</link>
		<dc:creator>James D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 16:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Paul L for pointing out the ridiculousless of the &#039;chicken hawk&#039; term.

I&#039;d also call BS on the point of this post Radley:  When Bush &#039;gaffes&#039; it&#039;s because he speaks like an idiot (&quot;So OBGYNs can make their love&quot;, etc).  When Gore/Clinton/Obama &#039;gaffes&#039; it&#039;s so they can lie and appear to be somehing they are not.

I don&#039;t see how you can compare the two.  Both are cringe-inducing but only one is outright lying just for the sake of making yourself look better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Paul L for pointing out the ridiculousless of the &#8216;chicken hawk&#8217; term.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also call BS on the point of this post Radley:  When Bush &#8216;gaffes&#8217; it&#8217;s because he speaks like an idiot (&#8220;So OBGYNs can make their love&#8221;, etc).  When Gore/Clinton/Obama &#8216;gaffes&#8217; it&#8217;s so they can lie and appear to be somehing they are not.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see how you can compare the two.  Both are cringe-inducing but only one is outright lying just for the sake of making yourself look better.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/27/gaffe-proneobama/comment-page-1/#comment-119653</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 15:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No

My bad 

or != and]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No</p>
<p>My bad </p>
<p>or != and</p>
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		<title>By: Paul L.</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/27/gaffe-proneobama/comment-page-1/#comment-119618</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 15:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The use of the term is to point out that those cheering on/supprting the Iraq war have never served or &lt;b&gt;are not serving&lt;/b&gt;. If they are not cheering on/supporting the Iraq war, then chicken-hawk would not apply even if they did serve.
&lt;/i&gt;
From your definition I am a “chicken hawk” despite my service (USN 85-91).
Does “chicken hawk” definition include those who supported the Kosovo/Afghanistan but did not serve in either?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The use of the term is to point out that those cheering on/supprting the Iraq war have never served or <b>are not serving</b>. If they are not cheering on/supporting the Iraq war, then chicken-hawk would not apply even if they did serve.<br />
</i><br />
From your definition I am a “chicken hawk” despite my service (USN 85-91).<br />
Does “chicken hawk” definition include those who supported the Kosovo/Afghanistan but did not serve in either?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin B. O'Reilly</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/27/gaffe-proneobama/comment-page-1/#comment-119616</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin B. O'Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 15:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[Warning: Punctuation police] Radley, I&#039;m not sure why you insist on putting apostrophes after slangy contractions such as GOTTA&#039; and SORTA&#039; above. An apostrophe helps the reader understand that two words have been contracted and letters have been dropped out, such as in the words CAN&#039;T or WON&#039;T. Neither is the case with GOTTA or SORTA, so you can safely leave the apostrophes out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Warning: Punctuation police] Radley, I&#8217;m not sure why you insist on putting apostrophes after slangy contractions such as GOTTA&#8217; and SORTA&#8217; above. An apostrophe helps the reader understand that two words have been contracted and letters have been dropped out, such as in the words CAN&#8217;T or WON&#8217;T. Neither is the case with GOTTA or SORTA, so you can safely leave the apostrophes out.</p>
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		<title>By: Howlin' Hobbit</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/27/gaffe-proneobama/comment-page-1/#comment-119595</link>
		<dc:creator>Howlin' Hobbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 15:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Long before it entered the political lexicon the term &quot;chicken hawk&quot; referred to an older gay man who liked really young men.

I wonder if Freud&#039;s in there anywhere.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long before it entered the political lexicon the term &#8220;chicken hawk&#8221; referred to an older gay man who liked really young men.</p>
<p>I wonder if Freud&#8217;s in there anywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/27/gaffe-proneobama/comment-page-1/#comment-119588</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 14:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;It is amazing how many who use the “chicken-hawk” term never served themselves.&quot;

The use of the term is to point out that those cheering on/supprting the Iraq war have never served or are not serving. If they are not cheering on/supporting the Iraq war, then chicken-hawk would not apply even if they did serve.

I am not one of those (USMC 84-92).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It is amazing how many who use the “chicken-hawk” term never served themselves.&#8221;</p>
<p>The use of the term is to point out that those cheering on/supprting the Iraq war have never served or are not serving. If they are not cheering on/supporting the Iraq war, then chicken-hawk would not apply even if they did serve.</p>
<p>I am not one of those (USMC 84-92).</p>
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		<title>By: Zeb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 14:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would like to hear a candidate really be honest some day and say something like: &quot;I am full of shit, my opponents in this race are all full of shit and every serious candidate for president you have ever seen as been full of shit.  We will say whatever is necessary to get elected, we will pander to special interests that we don&#039;t really care about to get votes and we will say whatever is necessary to make a positive impression on whatever group of people we happen to be talking to at the time.  Sorry, but that&#039;s how it works.  If I wasn&#039;t completely full of shit, I would never have the opportunity to be standing here now, telling you all some things that I think you want to hear.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to hear a candidate really be honest some day and say something like: &#8220;I am full of shit, my opponents in this race are all full of shit and every serious candidate for president you have ever seen as been full of shit.  We will say whatever is necessary to get elected, we will pander to special interests that we don&#8217;t really care about to get votes and we will say whatever is necessary to make a positive impression on whatever group of people we happen to be talking to at the time.  Sorry, but that&#8217;s how it works.  If I wasn&#8217;t completely full of shit, I would never have the opportunity to be standing here now, telling you all some things that I think you want to hear.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Chance</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/27/gaffe-proneobama/comment-page-1/#comment-119570</link>
		<dc:creator>Chance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 14:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You see, our men and women in uniform are only heroes as long as they agree with the chicken hawks. As soon as they say anything against the party line their time, wounds, and service don&#039;t reaally count (wasn&#039;t reaally combat you see).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You see, our men and women in uniform are only heroes as long as they agree with the chicken hawks. As soon as they say anything against the party line their time, wounds, and service don&#8217;t reaally count (wasn&#8217;t reaally combat you see).</p>
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		<title>By: Paul L.</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/27/gaffe-proneobama/comment-page-1/#comment-119555</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 13:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I think the term chicken-hawk is great. The entertainment value of the anger it elicits from said chicken-hawks is always worth the price of admission.&lt;/i&gt;
It is amazing how many who use the &quot;chicken-hawk&quot; term never served themselves.
More amusing is the goal post moving by those who use the term &quot;chicken-hawk&quot;.
If the person is a veteran.
&quot;Why aren&#039;t you serving now to support your illegal war in Iraq&quot;
If the person is currently serving.
&quot;Why aren&#039;t you serving in Iraq&quot;

Can we use the same &quot;chicken-hawk&quot; logic to say if you never served in Law Enforcement you can not criticize them?

BTW, Max “I Left Three Limbs on the Battlefield” Cleland did not lose his limbs on the battlefield or combat but in a accident.

&lt;i&gt;On April 8, 1968, then-Capt. Max Cleland picked-up a &quot;hair-triggered&quot; grenade that another soldier dropped on a helicopter tarmac in Vietnam after returning from a combat mission. The grenade exploded after Capt. Cleland picked it up. Capt. Cleland lost two legs and an arm in the explosion.&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I think the term chicken-hawk is great. The entertainment value of the anger it elicits from said chicken-hawks is always worth the price of admission.</i><br />
It is amazing how many who use the &#8220;chicken-hawk&#8221; term never served themselves.<br />
More amusing is the goal post moving by those who use the term &#8220;chicken-hawk&#8221;.<br />
If the person is a veteran.<br />
&#8220;Why aren&#8217;t you serving now to support your illegal war in Iraq&#8221;<br />
If the person is currently serving.<br />
&#8220;Why aren&#8217;t you serving in Iraq&#8221;</p>
<p>Can we use the same &#8220;chicken-hawk&#8221; logic to say if you never served in Law Enforcement you can not criticize them?</p>
<p>BTW, Max “I Left Three Limbs on the Battlefield” Cleland did not lose his limbs on the battlefield or combat but in a accident.</p>
<p><i>On April 8, 1968, then-Capt. Max Cleland picked-up a &#8220;hair-triggered&#8221; grenade that another soldier dropped on a helicopter tarmac in Vietnam after returning from a combat mission. The grenade exploded after Capt. Cleland picked it up. Capt. Cleland lost two legs and an arm in the explosion.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/27/gaffe-proneobama/comment-page-1/#comment-119494</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 13:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I’m not a Bush supporter but the left has taken such glee from “Bush-isms” over the last 8 years....&quot;

Actually I think the glee from the Bushisms only lasted a couple of years at most. Now it&#039;s mostly embarassing.

Also, I think the term chicken-hawk is great. The entertainment value of the anger it elicits from said chicken-hawks is always worth the price of admission.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m not a Bush supporter but the left has taken such glee from “Bush-isms” over the last 8 years&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually I think the glee from the Bushisms only lasted a couple of years at most. Now it&#8217;s mostly embarassing.</p>
<p>Also, I think the term chicken-hawk is great. The entertainment value of the anger it elicits from said chicken-hawks is always worth the price of admission.</p>
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