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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: supercat</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/19/chicago-pd-switches-to-battle-mode/comment-page-1/#comment-128206</link>
		<dc:creator>supercat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I applaud your comments…although I think calling them “fellow gangsters”…may be too broad a term...&lt;/i&gt;

Too disrespectful toward the Mafia?

Correct me if I&#039;m wrong, but a Mafia operative who hits the wrong target will not just get a verbal reprimand and a three-day suspension with pay.  Indeed, such a person would probably be lucky if he could keep wearing normal footwear rather than concrete goulashes.

It is mind-boggling the extent to which many police departments no longer seem to want to be seen as respectful public servants.  They&#039;ve become so invested in their roles as intimidators that they&#039;ve tried to acclimate the public to totalitarian anarchy rather than try to maintain a veneer of civility and legitimacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I applaud your comments…although I think calling them “fellow gangsters”…may be too broad a term&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Too disrespectful toward the Mafia?</p>
<p>Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, but a Mafia operative who hits the wrong target will not just get a verbal reprimand and a three-day suspension with pay.  Indeed, such a person would probably be lucky if he could keep wearing normal footwear rather than concrete goulashes.</p>
<p>It is mind-boggling the extent to which many police departments no longer seem to want to be seen as respectful public servants.  They&#8217;ve become so invested in their roles as intimidators that they&#8217;ve tried to acclimate the public to totalitarian anarchy rather than try to maintain a veneer of civility and legitimacy.</p>
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		<title>By: The Agitator &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;Creative Writing&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/19/chicago-pd-switches-to-battle-mode/comment-page-1/#comment-126481</link>
		<dc:creator>The Agitator &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;Creative Writing&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We&#8217;ve been talking about the problems with Chicago PD on this site for some time. Unfortunately, new Chicago PD Chief Jody Weis&#8211;the guy who&#8217;s supposed to clean all of this up&#8211;doesn&#8217;t seem to get it, either. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We&#8217;ve been talking about the problems with Chicago PD on this site for some time. Unfortunately, new Chicago PD Chief Jody Weis&#8211;the guy who&#8217;s supposed to clean all of this up&#8211;doesn&#8217;t seem to get it, either. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Light</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/19/chicago-pd-switches-to-battle-mode/comment-page-1/#comment-114233</link>
		<dc:creator>Light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 21:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re Losing in Chicago!!!! Civil war is about to erupt!

We must Pull our forces Out now!!

No Blood for... uh... Deep Dish Pizza!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re Losing in Chicago!!!! Civil war is about to erupt!</p>
<p>We must Pull our forces Out now!!</p>
<p>No Blood for&#8230; uh&#8230; Deep Dish Pizza!</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. C</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/19/chicago-pd-switches-to-battle-mode/comment-page-1/#comment-114189</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 19:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#17 - Psion.  

I applaud your comments...although I think calling them &quot;fellow gangsters&quot;...may be too broad a term...I believe many have lost touch with their humanity...and &quot;impunity&quot;...has made them... apathetic.

I too recognize...that there are...policies...procedures...and attitudes...in law enforcement...that are terribly wrong...and they need to be addressed and corrected...so that the confidence... many people once felt...in the legal system...and the respect held...for those sworn to protect and serve...might stand a chance...at being restored.  There shouldn&#039;t be an &quot;us vs them&quot; mentality...and...in applying the law...there should be...only one set of rules...applicable to all...&quot;no double standard.&quot;   

We as a society...have two choices.  Since we are on this earth...for only a short time...we either take responsibility...for our actions...that have caused...pain and suffering...to others...and right the wrongs now...that allowed for such happenings...so that they are...no longer a practice that can continue...OR...be held accountable for them...in eternity.  

I don&#039;t believe there will be a closing of ranks...or a blue wall of silence...or looking the other way...on that someday...when in His presence...we will be questioned...about our treatment of others.  No one will have immunity.

Hopefully...there are enough of us...willing to speak out...and to make our voices heard...and just maybe...we can fix what&#039;s broken...while there is still time...and we are &quot;here.&quot;

In my son&#039;s memory...I am keeping the faith...

www.justiceforsal.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#17 &#8211; Psion.  </p>
<p>I applaud your comments&#8230;although I think calling them &#8220;fellow gangsters&#8221;&#8230;may be too broad a term&#8230;I believe many have lost touch with their humanity&#8230;and &#8220;impunity&#8221;&#8230;has made them&#8230; apathetic.</p>
<p>I too recognize&#8230;that there are&#8230;policies&#8230;procedures&#8230;and attitudes&#8230;in law enforcement&#8230;that are terribly wrong&#8230;and they need to be addressed and corrected&#8230;so that the confidence&#8230; many people once felt&#8230;in the legal system&#8230;and the respect held&#8230;for those sworn to protect and serve&#8230;might stand a chance&#8230;at being restored.  There shouldn&#8217;t be an &#8220;us vs them&#8221; mentality&#8230;and&#8230;in applying the law&#8230;there should be&#8230;only one set of rules&#8230;applicable to all&#8230;&#8221;no double standard.&#8221;   </p>
<p>We as a society&#8230;have two choices.  Since we are on this earth&#8230;for only a short time&#8230;we either take responsibility&#8230;for our actions&#8230;that have caused&#8230;pain and suffering&#8230;to others&#8230;and right the wrongs now&#8230;that allowed for such happenings&#8230;so that they are&#8230;no longer a practice that can continue&#8230;OR&#8230;be held accountable for them&#8230;in eternity.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe there will be a closing of ranks&#8230;or a blue wall of silence&#8230;or looking the other way&#8230;on that someday&#8230;when in His presence&#8230;we will be questioned&#8230;about our treatment of others.  No one will have immunity.</p>
<p>Hopefully&#8230;there are enough of us&#8230;willing to speak out&#8230;and to make our voices heard&#8230;and just maybe&#8230;we can fix what&#8217;s broken&#8230;while there is still time&#8230;and we are &#8220;here.&#8221;</p>
<p>In my son&#8217;s memory&#8230;I am keeping the faith&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.justiceforsal.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.justiceforsal.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: ElamBend</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/19/chicago-pd-switches-to-battle-mode/comment-page-1/#comment-114177</link>
		<dc:creator>ElamBend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 19:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After twenty years in which the idea of community policing has been pimped over and over again and this is the CPDs solution?  Maybe it would help if someone sent a copy of the Armys COIN manual to get some better ideas than just have the police ride around like a band of invading paramilitary types.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After twenty years in which the idea of community policing has been pimped over and over again and this is the CPDs solution?  Maybe it would help if someone sent a copy of the Armys COIN manual to get some better ideas than just have the police ride around like a band of invading paramilitary types.</p>
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		<title>By: Lenny Zimmermann</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/19/chicago-pd-switches-to-battle-mode/comment-page-1/#comment-114168</link>
		<dc:creator>Lenny Zimmermann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 18:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a point to consider, here in new Orleans we still have a noticeable National Guard presence, army soldiers riding around in Humvees. When i see them out on the streets the concept of them being there bothers the heck out of me, but reality of seeing them also instill trust in a way the local police absolutely do not. The soldiers, perhaps because they are all too aware of their role and all too aware that not only are these people they are protecting NOT enemy combatants, but that they are truly American Citizens, tend to be friendly, approachable, non-belligerent, and seem to act like they are the to serve the communities they are patrolling. Very much unlike the cops they are helping to supplement. That may be just my own observation and feelings on the matter, but I would not at all be surprised if it were a consensus of citizens throughout New Orleans.

I still don&#039;t want soldiers patrolling our streets for all the good reasons we had Posse Comitatus to being with, but while they are here I think our police forces could sure learn a thing or two from them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a point to consider, here in new Orleans we still have a noticeable National Guard presence, army soldiers riding around in Humvees. When i see them out on the streets the concept of them being there bothers the heck out of me, but reality of seeing them also instill trust in a way the local police absolutely do not. The soldiers, perhaps because they are all too aware of their role and all too aware that not only are these people they are protecting NOT enemy combatants, but that they are truly American Citizens, tend to be friendly, approachable, non-belligerent, and seem to act like they are the to serve the communities they are patrolling. Very much unlike the cops they are helping to supplement. That may be just my own observation and feelings on the matter, but I would not at all be surprised if it were a consensus of citizens throughout New Orleans.</p>
<p>I still don&#8217;t want soldiers patrolling our streets for all the good reasons we had Posse Comitatus to being with, but while they are here I think our police forces could sure learn a thing or two from them.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/19/chicago-pd-switches-to-battle-mode/comment-page-1/#comment-114150</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 17:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I&#039;m bored at work today....

Dissociative:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&amp;q=dissociative
&quot;to sever the association of (oneself); separate&quot;

I think &#039;dissociative&#039; works well. For example:

Symptoms of a police force becoming dissociative is the &#039;us vs them&#039; mentality and the increased use of military equipment....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I&#8217;m bored at work today&#8230;.</p>
<p>Dissociative:<br />
<a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&#038;q=dissociative" rel="nofollow">http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&#038;q=dissociative</a><br />
&#8220;to sever the association of (oneself); separate&#8221;</p>
<p>I think &#8216;dissociative&#8217; works well. For example:</p>
<p>Symptoms of a police force becoming dissociative is the &#8216;us vs them&#8217; mentality and the increased use of military equipment&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: J.R</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/19/chicago-pd-switches-to-battle-mode/comment-page-1/#comment-114138</link>
		<dc:creator>J.R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 17:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Made me think of the intro to Fallout (at about 30 seconds in):
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WkBNKa2KXZE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Made me think of the intro to Fallout (at about 30 seconds in):<br />
<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=WkBNKa2KXZE" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=WkBNKa2KXZE</a></p>
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		<title>By: Edintally</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/19/chicago-pd-switches-to-battle-mode/comment-page-1/#comment-114105</link>
		<dc:creator>Edintally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 16:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be shocked by the Chicago Chief or Roger is I didn&#039;t read that kind of nonsense every single day.

If people don&#039;t start speaking out, I&#039;m afraid the endgame for this issue will not be pretty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be shocked by the Chicago Chief or Roger is I didn&#8217;t read that kind of nonsense every single day.</p>
<p>If people don&#8217;t start speaking out, I&#8217;m afraid the endgame for this issue will not be pretty.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Beck</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/19/chicago-pd-switches-to-battle-mode/comment-page-1/#comment-114077</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 14:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Lets see in over like 200 plus years of having some form of law enforcement in the United States how often do we here of police officers breaking down your door in the middle of the night doing raids on suspected people in your neighborhoods then shoot your family because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

How many should it &lt;i&gt;take&lt;/i&gt; before it&#039;s an outrage in a &quot;free country&quot;?  Hmm?  You tell me, since you brought it up: how many innocent and harmless peoples&#039; lives have to go through the shredder before it starts to really mean something to the concepts set out in the Declaration of Independence and what this country is all about?  Tell me &lt;i&gt;this&lt;/i&gt;: should I get all worked-up and outraged if it happened to &lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt;?  Or, should I just count it -- your destruction by sheer attitudes like this -- as a cost of &quot;civilization&quot; or something like that?

Don&#039;t hand me that &quot;At least it&#039;s not China here&quot; pile, man, and don&#039;t hand me that...

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Officers don’t write the damn laws, the elected officials do, and we put them their. YOU don’t like the laws we’re told to uphold then bitch and complain to someone who can change them. We’re not paid to change the laws just hold your feet to the fire for breaking them.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

...&lt;i&gt;Nuremburg&lt;/i&gt; gas, either.  It is surely true that a culture ends up dealing in poison and corrosion when it hires people to do nothing but sit around and write laws for more than two centuries, but that&#039;s not going to get you off the ethical and political hook for &lt;i&gt;your&lt;/i&gt; end of it.

You&#039;d better pay attention to Psion, above.  There are a lot of people out there who&#039;ve had it with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Lets see in over like 200 plus years of having some form of law enforcement in the United States how often do we here of police officers breaking down your door in the middle of the night doing raids on suspected people in your neighborhoods then shoot your family because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>How many should it <i>take</i> before it&#8217;s an outrage in a &#8220;free country&#8221;?  Hmm?  You tell me, since you brought it up: how many innocent and harmless peoples&#8217; lives have to go through the shredder before it starts to really mean something to the concepts set out in the Declaration of Independence and what this country is all about?  Tell me <i>this</i>: should I get all worked-up and outraged if it happened to <i>you</i>?  Or, should I just count it &#8212; your destruction by sheer attitudes like this &#8212; as a cost of &#8220;civilization&#8221; or something like that?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t hand me that &#8220;At least it&#8217;s not China here&#8221; pile, man, and don&#8217;t hand me that&#8230;</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Officers don’t write the damn laws, the elected officials do, and we put them their. YOU don’t like the laws we’re told to uphold then bitch and complain to someone who can change them. We’re not paid to change the laws just hold your feet to the fire for breaking them.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>&#8230;<i>Nuremburg</i> gas, either.  It is surely true that a culture ends up dealing in poison and corrosion when it hires people to do nothing but sit around and write laws for more than two centuries, but that&#8217;s not going to get you off the ethical and political hook for <i>your</i> end of it.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d better pay attention to Psion, above.  There are a lot of people out there who&#8217;ve had it with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Pack</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/19/chicago-pd-switches-to-battle-mode/comment-page-1/#comment-114053</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Pack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 13:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who thinks it is his job to &#039; hold you feet to the fire&#039; has a serious problem.The fact he is a traffic cop is is even worse.This man attitude is what&#039;s wrong with todays LEO &#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who thinks it is his job to &#8216; hold you feet to the fire&#8217; has a serious problem.The fact he is a traffic cop is is even worse.This man attitude is what&#8217;s wrong with todays LEO &#8216;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Rogers</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/19/chicago-pd-switches-to-battle-mode/comment-page-1/#comment-114018</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 11:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Philadelphia fewer narcs = better police coverage.

The Philadelphia Police department is doing something very different. While they too are increasing the profile of police on the street they are doing so by taking people out of under-cover work. And they are making positive public relations out of the ending of the federal Byrne Grant program at the same time.

http://cbs3.com/topstories/philadelphia.police.commissioner.2.713300.html
May 1, 2008, CBS 
Ramsey Reveals Police Department Changes

PHILADELPHIA (AP)

&quot;The 6,600-member force needs more &quot;generalists&quot; -- uniformed officers on the streets who will be highly visible in neighborhoods and can quickly respond to any type of crime, he said.

To that end, the Strategic Intervention Tactical Unit was disbanded and its 49 officers were redeployed to district patrols. The Narcotics Strike Force&#039;s 135 officers also were moved to patrol duty, where they will respond to a variety of crimes.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Philadelphia fewer narcs = better police coverage.</p>
<p>The Philadelphia Police department is doing something very different. While they too are increasing the profile of police on the street they are doing so by taking people out of under-cover work. And they are making positive public relations out of the ending of the federal Byrne Grant program at the same time.</p>
<p><a href="http://cbs3.com/topstories/philadelphia.police.commissioner.2.713300.html" rel="nofollow">http://cbs3.com/topstories/philadelphia.police.commissioner.2.713300.html</a><br />
May 1, 2008, CBS<br />
Ramsey Reveals Police Department Changes</p>
<p>PHILADELPHIA (AP)</p>
<p>&#8220;The 6,600-member force needs more &#8220;generalists&#8221; &#8212; uniformed officers on the streets who will be highly visible in neighborhoods and can quickly respond to any type of crime, he said.</p>
<p>To that end, the Strategic Intervention Tactical Unit was disbanded and its 49 officers were redeployed to district patrols. The Narcotics Strike Force&#8217;s 135 officers also were moved to patrol duty, where they will respond to a variety of crimes.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/19/chicago-pd-switches-to-battle-mode/comment-page-1/#comment-113991</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 10:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The irony is that these methods aren&#039;t being used in Iraq.  As I recall, Petraeus pacified Mosul by taking off the battle gear, going door to door and meeting with people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The irony is that these methods aren&#8217;t being used in Iraq.  As I recall, Petraeus pacified Mosul by taking off the battle gear, going door to door and meeting with people.</p>
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		<title>By: Windypundit</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/19/chicago-pd-switches-to-battle-mode/comment-page-1/#comment-113873</link>
		<dc:creator>Windypundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 05:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Lets see in over like 200 plus years of having some form of law enforcement in the United States how often do we here of police officers breaking down your door in the middle of the night doing raids on suspected people in your neighborhoods then shoot your family because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

On this blog? All the time. Why do you ask?

&lt;blockquote&gt;
I think the real problem in society lay with the fact that whinny little morons like yourselves have problems with taking responsibility for your own actions and fail to just man up when you do something wrong.
...
We’re not paid to change the laws just hold your feet to the fire for breaking them.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So, when you curb someone for a traffic violation and as you&#039;re walking up to his window he flips out a badge, you just ask for his license and write the ticket, right? And when you get stopped yourself, you man up and take responsibility, just like you said, right?

&lt;blockquote&gt;But in the end I really hope you get what you think is best for you….just look at China a decade ago. Military police there. Think you have it rough now being able to spit in the police officers face and getting at worst a rude statement from the officer. Try something like that under “military” law enforcement.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That spitting thing...care to put that to the test?  Leave your badge at home, drive to another city, and spit in some cop&#039;s face.  Let us know how it turns out.

You&#039;re right, we don&#039;t want military law enforcement. Which is precisely why we get upset when our peace officers start arming themselves like the military, driving vehicles like the military, conducting close assaults on people&#039;s houses like the military, and making videos of military-style police action to use as recruiting tools.  There&#039;s supposed to be more of a difference between &lt;i&gt;police&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;soldier&lt;/i&gt; than the spelling.</description>
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Lets see in over like 200 plus years of having some form of law enforcement in the United States how often do we here of police officers breaking down your door in the middle of the night doing raids on suspected people in your neighborhoods then shoot your family because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time?</p></blockquote>
<p>On this blog? All the time. Why do you ask?</p>
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I think the real problem in society lay with the fact that whinny little morons like yourselves have problems with taking responsibility for your own actions and fail to just man up when you do something wrong.<br />
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We’re not paid to change the laws just hold your feet to the fire for breaking them.
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<p>So, when you curb someone for a traffic violation and as you&#8217;re walking up to his window he flips out a badge, you just ask for his license and write the ticket, right? And when you get stopped yourself, you man up and take responsibility, just like you said, right?</p>
<blockquote><p>But in the end I really hope you get what you think is best for you….just look at China a decade ago. Military police there. Think you have it rough now being able to spit in the police officers face and getting at worst a rude statement from the officer. Try something like that under “military” law enforcement.</p></blockquote>
<p>That spitting thing&#8230;care to put that to the test?  Leave your badge at home, drive to another city, and spit in some cop&#8217;s face.  Let us know how it turns out.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, we don&#8217;t want military law enforcement. Which is precisely why we get upset when our peace officers start arming themselves like the military, driving vehicles like the military, conducting close assaults on people&#8217;s houses like the military, and making videos of military-style police action to use as recruiting tools.  There&#8217;s supposed to be more of a difference between <i>police</i> and <i>soldier</i> than the spelling.</p>
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		<title>By: Psion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Psion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 04:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger, you just don&#039;t see it, do you? You can&#039;t possibly get it, because you&#039;ve wrapped yourself in a neat, cozy insular world where long-suffering cops just aren&#039;t understood by the citizens they serve. It&#039;s a convenient denial layered upon denial you&#039;ve bought into that refuses to let you see the growing trouble with police officer who aren&#039;t held accountable for their actions. Look around this website, you poor blind fool, and read case after case of your fellow boys in blue going nuts on people. 

I used to believe it was one bad cop ruining it for all the rest, but no more. Not when I see the institutionalized support bad cops get from their departments. Where cops assault citizens, sometimes even murdering them and going unpunished. Where departments repeatedly close ranks after all these incidents and pretend the officers involved were &quot;just following procedures&quot; and did nothing wrong. You folks put your uniform before the law. You put your fellow cops ahead of justice. And you&#039;ve forgotten what liberty and civil rights are all about. The good cops are the exception ... an even greater minority when you consider how many cops choose to look the other way when one of their own number does something wrong.

And then the pitiable lament that the rest of us dumb &quot;civilians&quot; just don&#039;t understand a cop&#039;s job. As if we&#039;re supposed to.

Listen close, pal. Put the word out with your fellow gangsters. The people are getting sick of it. We&#039;re not just an armed country, we pay your damned salary. You boys gotta get it through your porcine skulls that you&#039;re not doing anyone any good busting down doors and going commando on poker parties or tips from questionable sources. The more you militarize, the less respect you get. The more you kick people senseless in the streets for daring to question your authority, the less respect you get. The more you taser adolescent boys for having epileptic seizures, the less respect you get. And the more you break down people&#039;s doors in the middle of the night and shoot innocent old women caught by surprise, the less respect you get.

Because, in the end, organizations which do that deserve none.

I&#039;m a white, middle-class homeowner in a predominantly WASP neighborhood. I&#039;m politically active and pay all my bills and taxes on time. I don&#039;t do drugs and am so &quot;square&quot; that cubes see me as a role model. If people like me have decided it&#039;s time to put an end to this, it&#039;s game-over for people like you. Drop the confrontational attitude now. Get rid of the military gear. Get rid of the black storm-trooper body armor. When you see a cop with a head-busting mentality in your ranks, get rid of him. Stop picturing yourself on &quot;COPS&quot; when you go on a no-knock raid and start asking yourself, &quot;What would Sheriff Andy Taylor do?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger, you just don&#8217;t see it, do you? You can&#8217;t possibly get it, because you&#8217;ve wrapped yourself in a neat, cozy insular world where long-suffering cops just aren&#8217;t understood by the citizens they serve. It&#8217;s a convenient denial layered upon denial you&#8217;ve bought into that refuses to let you see the growing trouble with police officer who aren&#8217;t held accountable for their actions. Look around this website, you poor blind fool, and read case after case of your fellow boys in blue going nuts on people. </p>
<p>I used to believe it was one bad cop ruining it for all the rest, but no more. Not when I see the institutionalized support bad cops get from their departments. Where cops assault citizens, sometimes even murdering them and going unpunished. Where departments repeatedly close ranks after all these incidents and pretend the officers involved were &#8220;just following procedures&#8221; and did nothing wrong. You folks put your uniform before the law. You put your fellow cops ahead of justice. And you&#8217;ve forgotten what liberty and civil rights are all about. The good cops are the exception &#8230; an even greater minority when you consider how many cops choose to look the other way when one of their own number does something wrong.</p>
<p>And then the pitiable lament that the rest of us dumb &#8220;civilians&#8221; just don&#8217;t understand a cop&#8217;s job. As if we&#8217;re supposed to.</p>
<p>Listen close, pal. Put the word out with your fellow gangsters. The people are getting sick of it. We&#8217;re not just an armed country, we pay your damned salary. You boys gotta get it through your porcine skulls that you&#8217;re not doing anyone any good busting down doors and going commando on poker parties or tips from questionable sources. The more you militarize, the less respect you get. The more you kick people senseless in the streets for daring to question your authority, the less respect you get. The more you taser adolescent boys for having epileptic seizures, the less respect you get. And the more you break down people&#8217;s doors in the middle of the night and shoot innocent old women caught by surprise, the less respect you get.</p>
<p>Because, in the end, organizations which do that deserve none.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a white, middle-class homeowner in a predominantly WASP neighborhood. I&#8217;m politically active and pay all my bills and taxes on time. I don&#8217;t do drugs and am so &#8220;square&#8221; that cubes see me as a role model. If people like me have decided it&#8217;s time to put an end to this, it&#8217;s game-over for people like you. Drop the confrontational attitude now. Get rid of the military gear. Get rid of the black storm-trooper body armor. When you see a cop with a head-busting mentality in your ranks, get rid of him. Stop picturing yourself on &#8220;COPS&#8221; when you go on a no-knock raid and start asking yourself, &#8220;What would Sheriff Andy Taylor do?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: OGRE</title>
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		<dc:creator>OGRE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 04:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Roger!  That was hilarious!

If on the off chance you were perfectly serious, thank you for illustrating quite vividly the &quot;us against them&quot; mentality that we over-educated liberal pussies have come to expect (via the numerous psychological studies and other academic resources we peruse daily.)  

When I was a prosecutor, the officers that displayed that kind of attitude always brought the worst cases and never wanted to budge on them;  pissed me off to no end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Roger!  That was hilarious!</p>
<p>If on the off chance you were perfectly serious, thank you for illustrating quite vividly the &#8220;us against them&#8221; mentality that we over-educated liberal pussies have come to expect (via the numerous psychological studies and other academic resources we peruse daily.)  </p>
<p>When I was a prosecutor, the officers that displayed that kind of attitude always brought the worst cases and never wanted to budge on them;  pissed me off to no end.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 04:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have friends and family that have come back from overseas and told me that people from law enforcement backgrounds were just awful to try to deal with.  Out of control dumbasses who disrespected and brutalized the natives they came in contact with.  Made the populace hate them and destroyed whatever good will and information sources that had been previously been built.  They were held in very low regard by those that attempted to serve with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have friends and family that have come back from overseas and told me that people from law enforcement backgrounds were just awful to try to deal with.  Out of control dumbasses who disrespected and brutalized the natives they came in contact with.  Made the populace hate them and destroyed whatever good will and information sources that had been previously been built.  They were held in very low regard by those that attempted to serve with them.</p>
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		<title>By: CitizenNothing</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/19/chicago-pd-switches-to-battle-mode/comment-page-1/#comment-113848</link>
		<dc:creator>CitizenNothing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 04:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I think the real problem in society lay with the fact that whinny little morons like yourselves have problems with taking responsibility for your own actions and fail to just man up when you do something wrong. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, that about encapsulates it....  Hide behind that Balaclava and the &quot;Blue Code of Silence&quot; while spewing that bullshit.....  Fucking cops.</description>
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<p>Yeah, that about encapsulates it&#8230;.  Hide behind that Balaclava and the &#8220;Blue Code of Silence&#8221; while spewing that bullshit&#8230;..  Fucking cops.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 01:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As former military with friends (and now friends kids) in the military, the ex-officer is absolutely correct.

Just think back to that story of how a sniper shot an Army medic (which is on LiveLeak.com) and then the medic&#039;s buddies chased down the sniper. The medic then TREATED the injured sniper THAT JUST SHOT HIM.

How many here would think any cop anywhere would do that?

We do need a new term for the militarization of the police forces. Something like occupationalized...no that sucks...something along that line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As former military with friends (and now friends kids) in the military, the ex-officer is absolutely correct.</p>
<p>Just think back to that story of how a sniper shot an Army medic (which is on LiveLeak.com) and then the medic&#8217;s buddies chased down the sniper. The medic then TREATED the injured sniper THAT JUST SHOT HIM.</p>
<p>How many here would think any cop anywhere would do that?</p>
<p>We do need a new term for the militarization of the police forces. Something like occupationalized&#8230;no that sucks&#8230;something along that line.</p>
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		<title>By: Max D.</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/19/chicago-pd-switches-to-battle-mode/comment-page-1/#comment-113739</link>
		<dc:creator>Max D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 01:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a &quot;semi-assault&quot; weapon is like a &quot;less-lethal&quot; weapon. They&#039;re only kinda-sorta assaulting you with it, the same way a &quot;less-lethal&quot; weapon doesn&#039;t kill you quite as dead as a lethal weapon. (The correct term is &quot;less-than-lethal.&quot;)

I&#039;m sure they meant &quot;semi-automatic assault weapons&quot;--which, actually, is an oxymoron. An &quot;assault weapon&quot; is, by definition, full auto. But consider, as always, the source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a &#8220;semi-assault&#8221; weapon is like a &#8220;less-lethal&#8221; weapon. They&#8217;re only kinda-sorta assaulting you with it, the same way a &#8220;less-lethal&#8221; weapon doesn&#8217;t kill you quite as dead as a lethal weapon. (The correct term is &#8220;less-than-lethal.&#8221;)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure they meant &#8220;semi-automatic assault weapons&#8221;&#8211;which, actually, is an oxymoron. An &#8220;assault weapon&#8221; is, by definition, full auto. But consider, as always, the source.</p>
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