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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: lysander spooner</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/13/yet-more-professionalism/comment-page-1/#comment-115494</link>
		<dc:creator>lysander spooner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 19:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If the cops continue playing as if they are an army of occupation, they shouldn&#039;t be surprised when the citizens act out their roles in return.  Vive la Resistance.&quot; - author unknown but thanked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If the cops continue playing as if they are an army of occupation, they shouldn&#8217;t be surprised when the citizens act out their roles in return.  Vive la Resistance.&#8221; &#8211; author unknown but thanked.</p>
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		<title>By: fsilber</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/13/yet-more-professionalism/comment-page-1/#comment-115381</link>
		<dc:creator>fsilber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 16:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Power corrupts.  That&#039;s why the Founders wanted to minimize America&#039;s reliance on standing armies -- and the police meet the definition of &quot;standing army&quot; in every aspect.

I&#039;m not saying we can or should do without police.  But we should be careful about continually expanding their mission (and hence, their power) by criminaling more and more behaviors that once were legal.  And, of course, as free citizens participating in self-government, we should rely on self-defense against crime to the extent we can.

When you try to use the law to re-engineer society, and when you try to make the police a society&#039;s sole source of protection against violent crime, Mayberry&#039;s Andy and Barney just won&#039;t do it anymore.  You&#039;ll need Robocop, and that&#039;s not gonna be fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Power corrupts.  That&#8217;s why the Founders wanted to minimize America&#8217;s reliance on standing armies &#8212; and the police meet the definition of &#8220;standing army&#8221; in every aspect.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying we can or should do without police.  But we should be careful about continually expanding their mission (and hence, their power) by criminaling more and more behaviors that once were legal.  And, of course, as free citizens participating in self-government, we should rely on self-defense against crime to the extent we can.</p>
<p>When you try to use the law to re-engineer society, and when you try to make the police a society&#8217;s sole source of protection against violent crime, Mayberry&#8217;s Andy and Barney just won&#8217;t do it anymore.  You&#8217;ll need Robocop, and that&#8217;s not gonna be fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary McGath</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/13/yet-more-professionalism/comment-page-1/#comment-111341</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary McGath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 10:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The staff of the Albany Medical Center raped him, by any reasonable definition that I can see. They should be facing felony charges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The staff of the Albany Medical Center raped him, by any reasonable definition that I can see. They should be facing felony charges.</p>
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		<title>By: JWH</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/13/yet-more-professionalism/comment-page-1/#comment-110996</link>
		<dc:creator>JWH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 22:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where&#039;s Elliot Spitzer when you need him?!?......oh, right.....never mind......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;s Elliot Spitzer when you need him?!?&#8230;&#8230;oh, right&#8230;..never mind&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hannah</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/13/yet-more-professionalism/comment-page-1/#comment-110864</link>
		<dc:creator>Hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thankfully in WV we still have our gun rights.  Heck I’ve got a friend looking at getting an AK-47 (not an automatic, dame tax stamp).  Unfortunately I still don’t see much hope for that small town revolt.  Even out here people have been told over and over again that drugs are bad, and people with any connection deserve to be harassed by the cops.  Its an example of being told over and over again the same information and eventually believing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankfully in WV we still have our gun rights.  Heck I’ve got a friend looking at getting an AK-47 (not an automatic, dame tax stamp).  Unfortunately I still don’t see much hope for that small town revolt.  Even out here people have been told over and over again that drugs are bad, and people with any connection deserve to be harassed by the cops.  Its an example of being told over and over again the same information and eventually believing it.</p>
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		<title>By: the friendly grizzly</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/13/yet-more-professionalism/comment-page-1/#comment-110666</link>
		<dc:creator>the friendly grizzly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 10:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have this inkling that this will happen once too often in some small town, and some citizens, ARMED, will show up at the police station and drag an officer or several out the door. It won&#039;t be pretty.

It will have to be in a small town, and will have to be in a state where people are permitted their 2nd amendment rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have this inkling that this will happen once too often in some small town, and some citizens, ARMED, will show up at the police station and drag an officer or several out the door. It won&#8217;t be pretty.</p>
<p>It will have to be in a small town, and will have to be in a state where people are permitted their 2nd amendment rights.</p>
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		<title>By: KW</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/13/yet-more-professionalism/comment-page-1/#comment-110400</link>
		<dc:creator>KW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 23:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;that there are a bunch of mistake-prone, embarrassment-avoiding human beings present, some of them in positions of power, and that they’ll make mistakes at any and all times of the day and night?&lt;/i&gt;

Mistake-prone. &lt;i&gt;Mistake?&lt;/i&gt; 

You contemptible reptile, what about these stories resembles honest &quot;errors&quot; to you?

&quot;woops...sorry sir. We didn&#039;t mean to harass you, strip search you, drug you, restrain you, stick a camera up your ass and then leave you with the bill. Our bad!&quot;

&quot;Gee Ma&#039;am...not sure how my fingers got up there. Simple human error you understand!&quot;

Ugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>that there are a bunch of mistake-prone, embarrassment-avoiding human beings present, some of them in positions of power, and that they’ll make mistakes at any and all times of the day and night?</i></p>
<p>Mistake-prone. <i>Mistake?</i> </p>
<p>You contemptible reptile, what about these stories resembles honest &#8220;errors&#8221; to you?</p>
<p>&#8220;woops&#8230;sorry sir. We didn&#8217;t mean to harass you, strip search you, drug you, restrain you, stick a camera up your ass and then leave you with the bill. Our bad!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Gee Ma&#8217;am&#8230;not sure how my fingers got up there. Simple human error you understand!&#8221;</p>
<p>Ugh.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 22:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Absolutely. Most cops mistake their attacks on non-threatening people (and kittens) as bravery, but call them to an active-shooter situation like Columbine and they hide behind trees until threat is over. 

Don’t get me wrong, I’d welcome good cops. As it is though, we seem to get men and women who want to play soldier without the danger of an actual enemy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Just thought that deserved to be repeated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Absolutely. Most cops mistake their attacks on non-threatening people (and kittens) as bravery, but call them to an active-shooter situation like Columbine and they hide behind trees until threat is over. </p>
<p>Don’t get me wrong, I’d welcome good cops. As it is though, we seem to get men and women who want to play soldier without the danger of an actual enemy.</p></blockquote>
<p>Just thought that deserved to be repeated.</p>
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		<title>By: CitizenNothing</title>
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		<dc:creator>CitizenNothing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 20:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“I respect their bravery and as such, let it slide when they show contemptable behavior towards me.”

Is that sarcasm?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Absolutely.  Most cops mistake their attacks on non-threatening people (and kittens) as bravery, but call them to an active-shooter situation like Columbine and they hide behind trees until threat is over.  

Don&#039;t get me wrong, I&#039;d welcome good cops.  As it is though, we seem to get men and women who want to play soldier without the danger of an actual enemy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“I respect their bravery and as such, let it slide when they show contemptable behavior towards me.”</p>
<p>Is that sarcasm?</p></blockquote>
<p>Absolutely.  Most cops mistake their attacks on non-threatening people (and kittens) as bravery, but call them to an active-shooter situation like Columbine and they hide behind trees until threat is over.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I&#8217;d welcome good cops.  As it is though, we seem to get men and women who want to play soldier without the danger of an actual enemy.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 20:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I respect their bravery and as such, let it slide when they show contemptable behavior towards me.&quot;

Is that sarcasm?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I respect their bravery and as such, let it slide when they show contemptable behavior towards me.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is that sarcasm?</p>
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		<title>By: CitizenNothing</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/13/yet-more-professionalism/comment-page-1/#comment-110269</link>
		<dc:creator>CitizenNothing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 18:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It must be part of police training that when you fuck up to say that you were just following procedure as if that argument, by itself, is profoundly irrefutable, rendering all further discussion pointless.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
 
Along with the other nonsense:
- &quot;You don&#039;t know what it&#039;s like out there..&quot;
- &quot;We put our lives on the line..&quot;
- &quot;Until you&#039;ve walked in my jackboots...&quot;

Most cops are like a speaking-toy/doll, they only have a handful of sayings they regurgitate regardless of the situation, ignorant of reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It must be part of police training that when you fuck up to say that you were just following procedure as if that argument, by itself, is profoundly irrefutable, rendering all further discussion pointless.</p></blockquote>
<p>Along with the other nonsense:<br />
- &#8220;You don&#8217;t know what it&#8217;s like out there..&#8221;<br />
- &#8220;We put our lives on the line..&#8221;<br />
- &#8220;Until you&#8217;ve walked in my jackboots&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Most cops are like a speaking-toy/doll, they only have a handful of sayings they regurgitate regardless of the situation, ignorant of reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Krueger</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/13/yet-more-professionalism/comment-page-1/#comment-110262</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Krueger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 18:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;#18 CitizenNothing 

Happy kitten story&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&quot;...The Cecil Township police chief said the 25-year veteran officer did not do anything wrong and stands behind his decision....&quot;

It must be part of police training that when you fuck up to say that you were just following procedure as if that argument, by itself, is profoundly irrefutable, rendering all further discussion pointless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>#18 CitizenNothing </p>
<p>Happy kitten story</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;The Cecil Township police chief said the 25-year veteran officer did not do anything wrong and stands behind his decision&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>It must be part of police training that when you fuck up to say that you were just following procedure as if that argument, by itself, is profoundly irrefutable, rendering all further discussion pointless.</p>
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		<title>By: CitizenNothing</title>
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		<dc:creator>CitizenNothing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 17:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This does not surprise me. Where were the Animal Control Officers?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m not familiar with that particular kitten-killing.  I just googled cop-on-pet killings and linked one.  There were many.  It&#039;s like the cops say &quot;It&#039;s War (on pets, children, grandmothers, college students, the disabled, etc, etc, etc) Out There&quot;.  I respect their bravery and as such, let it slide when they show contemptable behavior towards me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This does not surprise me. Where were the Animal Control Officers?</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not familiar with that particular kitten-killing.  I just googled cop-on-pet killings and linked one.  There were many.  It&#8217;s like the cops say &#8220;It&#8217;s War (on pets, children, grandmothers, college students, the disabled, etc, etc, etc) Out There&#8221;.  I respect their bravery and as such, let it slide when they show contemptable behavior towards me.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 17:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#18

This does not surprise me.  Where were the Animal Control Officers?</description>
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<p>This does not surprise me.  Where were the Animal Control Officers?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/13/yet-more-professionalism/comment-page-1/#comment-110248</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 17:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#7 #8

It was F-troop (BATF) and they stomped the kitten to death.

Having to work in the armpit of New York (NYC is where they stick the enema), about the only section of APD I have any respect for are the bike cops and the horse cops.  And even some of them are not exactly on the ball.  I politely reminded one young mounted cop as he was trotting off to attach the strap of his brain bucket and got a dirty look in return.  Which I guess proves that you don&#039;t really need brains to be APD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#7 #8</p>
<p>It was F-troop (BATF) and they stomped the kitten to death.</p>
<p>Having to work in the armpit of New York (NYC is where they stick the enema), about the only section of APD I have any respect for are the bike cops and the horse cops.  And even some of them are not exactly on the ball.  I politely reminded one young mounted cop as he was trotting off to attach the strap of his brain bucket and got a dirty look in return.  Which I guess proves that you don&#8217;t really need brains to be APD.</p>
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		<title>By: CitizenNothing</title>
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		<dc:creator>CitizenNothing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 17:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wpxi.com/news/15694159/detail.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Happy kitten story&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.wpxi.com/news/15694159/detail.html" rel="nofollow">Happy kitten story</a></p>
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		<title>By: Whim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 16:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Radley&#039;s long litany of documented police abuse, oppression, and malfeasance is relentless.

And, relentlessly depressing.  It&#039;s getting very hard to read.  A kick in the stomach on virtually a daily basis.  

Plus, throw the endless war in Iraq and a Trillion dollars wasted in the sand, $4.00 gasoline, escalating inflation on everything except my salary, and a housing market meltdown, it&#039;s enough to make ME want to take drugs, to escape REALITY.

Let&#039;s have more happy, kitten stories, please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radley&#8217;s long litany of documented police abuse, oppression, and malfeasance is relentless.</p>
<p>And, relentlessly depressing.  It&#8217;s getting very hard to read.  A kick in the stomach on virtually a daily basis.  </p>
<p>Plus, throw the endless war in Iraq and a Trillion dollars wasted in the sand, $4.00 gasoline, escalating inflation on everything except my salary, and a housing market meltdown, it&#8217;s enough to make ME want to take drugs, to escape REALITY.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s have more happy, kitten stories, please.</p>
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		<title>By: CRNewsom</title>
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		<dc:creator>CRNewsom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 16:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hemorrhoids, eh.  It certainly seems like the cops are to blame there.  After all, they are the ones being a pain in the ass...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hemorrhoids, eh.  It certainly seems like the cops are to blame there.  After all, they are the ones being a pain in the ass&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: James D</title>
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		<dc:creator>James D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 16:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>zero, I believe the term is &#039;double penetration&#039;.

This stuff is pretty ridiculous ... I may not be &#039;legalize it all&#039; like some of you, but there&#039;s no excuse for this kind of stuff that Radley reports on.  We&#039;re basically treating &#039;druggies&#039; like they are rapists and murderers.  And these people weren&#039;t even druggies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zero, I believe the term is &#8216;double penetration&#8217;.</p>
<p>This stuff is pretty ridiculous &#8230; I may not be &#8216;legalize it all&#8217; like some of you, but there&#8217;s no excuse for this kind of stuff that Radley reports on.  We&#8217;re basically treating &#8216;druggies&#8217; like they are rapists and murderers.  And these people weren&#8217;t even druggies.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 16:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny. I said the same thing about not being able to be arrested for resisting arrest if no arrest has been attempted to a Jefferson County Alabama sheriff, and I ended up going to jail for a couple of hours. The magistrate had to excuse herself for a moment to go talk with the District Attorney before she came back and apologized. Of course, nothing happened to the officer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny. I said the same thing about not being able to be arrested for resisting arrest if no arrest has been attempted to a Jefferson County Alabama sheriff, and I ended up going to jail for a couple of hours. The magistrate had to excuse herself for a moment to go talk with the District Attorney before she came back and apologized. Of course, nothing happened to the officer.</p>
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