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	<title>Comments on: Wouldn&#8217;t That Be a Good Thing?</title>
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	<description>It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do.</description>
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		<title>By: Chip</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/28/wouldnt-that-be-a-good-thing/#comment-91569</link>
		<dc:creator>Chip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ilya Shapiro travels back in time to 1954:

Much as I hate to rain on my colleague's understandable happiness that states will no longer be able to force black kids to go to separate public schools from white kids, this doesn’t exactly represent a ray of hope in our otherwise gloomy policy mix. Not because I believe in segregated schools, but because it was a court that reached this decision instead of a policymaking body.

Instead of having Congress or state legislatures change the law, the nation’s Supreme Court simply decreed that segregated schools are unconstitutional. This sounds like precisely the kind of judicial fiat that countries need to avoid if they want to strengthen the rule of law.

When legislatures violate people's rights, they should have no redress in the courts. They should be willing to suffer the violations of their rights until such time as they can gain control of the legislative branch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ilya Shapiro travels back in time to 1954:</p>
<p>Much as I hate to rain on my colleague&#8217;s understandable happiness that states will no longer be able to force black kids to go to separate public schools from white kids, this doesn’t exactly represent a ray of hope in our otherwise gloomy policy mix. Not because I believe in segregated schools, but because it was a court that reached this decision instead of a policymaking body.</p>
<p>Instead of having Congress or state legislatures change the law, the nation’s Supreme Court simply decreed that segregated schools are unconstitutional. This sounds like precisely the kind of judicial fiat that countries need to avoid if they want to strengthen the rule of law.</p>
<p>When legislatures violate people&#8217;s rights, they should have no redress in the courts. They should be willing to suffer the violations of their rights until such time as they can gain control of the legislative branch.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Fact is, we’d be a hell of a lot better off if the U.S. Supreme Court declared more of what federal government tries to do unconstitutional, because 90 percent of what the government does actually is. &lt;/i&gt;

Isn't that what the "switch in time to save nine" was partly about.  Prior to that event, during the Great Depression, the Supreme Court would routinely shoot down laws and policies simply because they weren't deemed constitutional.  The court applied the same line of thought to New Deal policies and Roosevelt responded with a very blatant power grab threatening to pack the supreme court till he got enough judges on there to agree with him.

Shapiro doesn't know his history, either, it seems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Fact is, we’d be a hell of a lot better off if the U.S. Supreme Court declared more of what federal government tries to do unconstitutional, because 90 percent of what the government does actually is. </i></p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that what the &#8220;switch in time to save nine&#8221; was partly about.  Prior to that event, during the Great Depression, the Supreme Court would routinely shoot down laws and policies simply because they weren&#8217;t deemed constitutional.  The court applied the same line of thought to New Deal policies and Roosevelt responded with a very blatant power grab threatening to pack the supreme court till he got enough judges on there to agree with him.</p>
<p>Shapiro doesn&#8217;t know his history, either, it seems.</p>
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		<title>By: ZappaCrappa</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZappaCrappa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>- "Wikipedia says, “Section 19 says that private actions of men that don’t harm the public order or another man can not be judjed by authorities,”

What a glorious concept!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- &#8220;Wikipedia says, “Section 19 says that private actions of men that don’t harm the public order or another man can not be judjed by authorities,”</p>
<p>What a glorious concept!!!</p>
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		<title>By: kaptinemo</title>
		<link>http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/28/wouldnt-that-be-a-good-thing/#comment-91435</link>
		<dc:creator>kaptinemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As anyone who's studied the problem (re-legalization of cannabis for general consumption) it's all well and good to say that one should use the political process to change the laws; paean to democracy, and all that. 

But when an entire bureaucratic empire exists, complete with its' own lobbying arm, and that bureaucratic empire is powered by taxpayer's dollars, and uses those dollars in that lobbying effort, the going for reform is always uphill and in low gear. Add to this the fact that said bureaucracy is aligned with politically influential groups, who view such reform as sanctioning social deviance (or threatening various apple carts such as lucrative industries protected against competition by prohibition), and the going becomes almost impossible.

I agree that what is needed right now is a Supreme Court dominated by such as Louis Brandeis, who understood the values of individual liberties and the bulwark they provided against the actions of those whom he termed as being &lt;i&gt;'men of zeal, without understanding'.&lt;/i&gt; We've got entirely too many such running things in this country, and they've pretty much run it into the ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As anyone who&#8217;s studied the problem (re-legalization of cannabis for general consumption) it&#8217;s all well and good to say that one should use the political process to change the laws; paean to democracy, and all that. </p>
<p>But when an entire bureaucratic empire exists, complete with its&#8217; own lobbying arm, and that bureaucratic empire is powered by taxpayer&#8217;s dollars, and uses those dollars in that lobbying effort, the going for reform is always uphill and in low gear. Add to this the fact that said bureaucracy is aligned with politically influential groups, who view such reform as sanctioning social deviance (or threatening various apple carts such as lucrative industries protected against competition by prohibition), and the going becomes almost impossible.</p>
<p>I agree that what is needed right now is a Supreme Court dominated by such as Louis Brandeis, who understood the values of individual liberties and the bulwark they provided against the actions of those whom he termed as being <i>&#8216;men of zeal, without understanding&#8217;.</i> We&#8217;ve got entirely too many such running things in this country, and they&#8217;ve pretty much run it into the ground.</p>
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		<title>By: nom de guerre</title>
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		<dc:creator>nom de guerre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 05:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ogre has a point. the list of freedoms taken by government *and then given back* is a short list indeed. especially when compared with the list of things that - once upon a time - government had no say in, and now regulates entirely.

is it time to start hunting the SOB's yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ogre has a point. the list of freedoms taken by government *and then given back* is a short list indeed. especially when compared with the list of things that - once upon a time - government had no say in, and now regulates entirely.</p>
<p>is it time to start hunting the SOB&#8217;s yet?</p>
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		<title>By: OGRE</title>
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		<dc:creator>OGRE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 04:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Restoration through blood is typically a more sustainable method of recovering abridged rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Restoration through blood is typically a more sustainable method of recovering abridged rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly.  Why should the people be forced to regain personal freedoms by starting on the bottom rung of the political process - which takes a lot of money, time and luck - and work their way up?

These rights were originally abridged by those in the lofty halls of government; surely thence they should be restored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly.  Why should the people be forced to regain personal freedoms by starting on the bottom rung of the political process - which takes a lot of money, time and luck - and work their way up?</p>
<p>These rights were originally abridged by those in the lofty halls of government; surely thence they should be restored.</p>
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