I’ll be the fourth person with kids to chime in and say that porn, beer, sex and freedom are good things.

Mark’s apparently a libertarian guy with a daughter who will eventually develop a hatred of libertarianism and demand that the government protect his kid from all the bad things on the planet once he realizes that the world is all about him.

Wow…that Mark guy sounds like a real loser

Seriously, though, congratulations on the new addition to your family.

Mark me down as someone that thinks those are good things.

And I have 2 teenagers, btw.

thorn

#26 Matt Moore

Sydney - She’s 28 days old, so yeah, I would prefer that she grow up a bit before becoming sexually active.

LMAO! You are remarkably even tempered for someone who is probably not getting much sleep.

#30 Sydney Carton

Dave,

I see I’ve got you pegged. A philosophy for people without children. That’s essentially what libertarianism is.

Yep. You see right through me. But just to fill in the details, I have a daughter who is 33. She’s a Tulane-educated lawyer who has been a public defender at the state and federal level in New Orleans, San Diego, and Saipan. She’s traveled to twenty countries in Europe, Asia, and Africa, mostly by herself, and recently spent thirteen months in Afghanistan with the International Legal Foundation where she met the man she married (her first marriage) this last December. He is a U.N. contractor from Morocco, is Arab, and Muslim. Currently she works with the ILF in Nepal and is soon to come back to the United States with her husband where she will probably again take a job as a public defender.

I personally have no idea whether she’s “easy”. It’s none of my business and it’s of no significance to anyone who doesn’t judge people based on mindless moralistic labels. But, for someone who grew up in a strongly libertarian environment, I’m not too unhappy about how she turned out. You seem to have a problem understanding the difference between the words irresponsible and libertarian. They are not interchangeable. And your belief that having children and being libertarian are incompatible is not just wrong, it’s imbecilic (a philosophy for people without brains).

I see I’ve got you pegged. A philosophy for people without children. That’s essentially what libertarianism is. I have no doubt that as Mark sees his daughter grow up, his attitude will change also.

#28 claude

Daley: Chicago police to get assault rifles

Well, surely they need to be prepared when they come across someone armed with “semi fully-automatic weapon”.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-chicago-police-assault-rifles,0,2104512.story

…you had to know a “Won’t someone please think of the children reference was coming.

#24 Sydney Carton
…But “easy” is not equal to “enjoying sex.” You can enjoy sex plenty in a monogamous relationship. “Easy” means you screw around with multiple people and don’t care about relationships, really. It’s a pursuit of lust. Moreover, I’m not aware that “easy” meant you had to grow up first. People who are “easy” are people who start out young….

Wow! Sounds like you’ve made the study of “easy” your life’s work. Maybe you should write a book advising women on the evils of lust, the joys of monogamy, and the pitfalls of being easy. Hell, easy women probably aren’t even aware that they don’t care about relationships. And they may be under the misguided impression that these are personal choices they get to make for themselves as part of their pursuit of happiness. You could have a whole section dedicated to defining precisely what’s expected of a woman in our culture if she is going to be deserving of respect.

Next you could take on men who drink on Sunday.

As far as easy: I don’t care if she’s monogamous. I wasn’t always and I think it would be unrealistic to think she will be.

Also: What’s wrong with buying beer on Sunday?

#6 frijoles junior
Dave,
There is some counter evidence that police agencies will constrain their actions to the degree permitted by city government…

Good point. You’re right. So, we’re fucked even worse than I thought.

This is getting off topic, but there’s nothing wrong with enjoying sex. But “easy” is not equal to “enjoying sex.” You can enjoy sex plenty in a monogamous relationship. “Easy” means you screw around with multiple people and don’t care about relationships, really. It’s a pursuit of lust. Moreover, I’m not aware that “easy” meant you had to grow up first. People who are “easy” are people who start out young.

“the people who want to impose their narrow intolerant morality on my every living moment…”

Because we all know that society should have no morals whatsoever. People who don’t want girls to be “easy” are just namby pamby intolerant jerks.

Sheesh.

#17 Sydney Carton

“booze is now available on Sunday, porn is legal, and women are easier”

…I don’t think you’ll find many people saying that those are GOOD things…

Only everyone I associate with. Folks who declare those things to be universally bad are almost always the people who want to impose their narrow intolerant morality on my every living moment (usually using children as the justification).

Mostly, however, I was just trying to make the point that there are some classes of people who fare worse today than in the 50s, largely because of present day legislative and law enforcement strategies (which is really what this thread is about).

JCoke - Yes, you may have a point. But Dr. Reality is stupidly arguing that the fifties were better because they were more authoritarian times. Which, if it was true, would still be one of the stupidest arguments ever.