Comments on: Morning Links http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/ It rankles me when somebody tries to tell somebody what to do. Sun, 12 Oct 2008 07:40:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: buzz http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87653 buzz Fri, 18 Apr 2008 22:40:22 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87653 I would have sued also, but considering the guy walked out and didn't suffer any major physical damage, I don't think I would have gone for the 25 million. Or quit my job. I figure I would have about a new cars worth of damage, not a retire now worth. I would have sued also, but considering the guy walked out and didn’t suffer any major physical damage, I don’t think I would have gone for the 25 million. Or quit my job. I figure I would have about a new cars worth of damage, not a retire now worth.

]]> By: TGGP http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87497 TGGP Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:37:27 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87497 David Friedman has been having some interesting posts on the compound raid: http://daviddfriedman.blogspot.com/2008/04/flds-phone-call-postscript.html http://daviddfriedman.blogspot.com/2008/04/flds-and-oneida-commune.html http://daviddfriedman.blogspot.com/2008/04/were-401-children-seized-on-fake-phone.html David Friedman has been having some interesting posts on the compound raid:
http://daviddfriedman.blogspot.com/2008/04/flds-phone-call-postscript.html
http://daviddfriedman.blogspot.com/2008/04/flds-and-oneida-commune.html
http://daviddfriedman.blogspot.com/2008/04/were-401-children-seized-on-fake-phone.html

]]> By: Alsadius http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87332 Alsadius Fri, 18 Apr 2008 05:22:41 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87332 I don't criticize the elevator guy for suing - from what I've heard of the case, he was left in there by rather gross negligence. What I criticize him for is quitting his job to get more money in the lawsuit, and not finding another since. Get one on a low floor or something, sure, but don't try to sue your way into retirement, and definitely don't try to keep it up even after your verdict has come back grossly inadequate to your future needs. His original problems were not his fault, but his current ones are. I don’t criticize the elevator guy for suing - from what I’ve heard of the case, he was left in there by rather gross negligence. What I criticize him for is quitting his job to get more money in the lawsuit, and not finding another since. Get one on a low floor or something, sure, but don’t try to sue your way into retirement, and definitely don’t try to keep it up even after your verdict has come back grossly inadequate to your future needs. His original problems were not his fault, but his current ones are.

]]> By: TC http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87326 TC Fri, 18 Apr 2008 05:05:50 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87326 This one hella can o worms to open up. Might be less expensive to either raid and occupy the entire compound/ranch, or leave em alone and treat the survivors? Naw apply the WOD example, it’s worked so very well! I’ve no idea what the State of Tx is paying for this operation, but I’d bet they they will pay oh so much more in the lawsuits to be filed against them as a result of it. One can only hope that the entire CPS of the state gets flushed and the state goes after those responsible for such a debacle and insures they NEVER EVER can suck a public teet again! Don’t take that as sticking up for the FLDS, but such could jut as easily be a Lutheran Camp, or Southern Baptist retreat. Or even your small town! All because of one or two phone calls by who knows what, declaring abuses. ********** "Link includes horrifying NSFW rendering of a topless Ann Coulter." I could not agree more, Ann is way hotter than that pathetic rendering! WAY the hell hotter! :) This one hella can o worms to open up.

Might be less expensive to either raid and occupy the entire compound/ranch, or leave em alone and treat the survivors?

Naw apply the WOD example, it’s worked so very well!

I’ve no idea what the State of Tx is paying for this operation, but I’d bet they they will pay oh so much more in the lawsuits to be filed against them as a result of it.

One can only hope that the entire CPS of the state gets flushed and the state goes after those responsible for such a debacle and insures they NEVER EVER can suck a public teet again!

Don’t take that as sticking up for the FLDS, but such could jut as easily be a Lutheran Camp, or Southern Baptist retreat. Or even your small town! All because of one or two phone calls by who knows what, declaring abuses.

**********

“Link includes horrifying NSFW rendering of a topless Ann Coulter.”

I could not agree more, Ann is way hotter than that pathetic rendering! WAY the hell hotter! :)

]]> By: Against Stupidity http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87275 Against Stupidity Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:16:26 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87275 I second Matt's motion. I second Matt’s motion.

]]> By: Matt Moore http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87247 Matt Moore Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:46:08 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87247 Funny, pierre, I feel the same way about genocidal luddites. Funny, pierre, I feel the same way about genocidal luddites.

]]> By: Leaning Towards the Dark Side » Blog Archive » My eyes! The goggles do nothing! http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87235 Leaning Towards the Dark Side » Blog Archive » My eyes! The goggles do nothing! Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:27:08 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87235 [...] Via Radley [...] [...] Via Radley [...]

]]> By: pierre http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87230 pierre Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:21:11 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87230 I hate the state, and I hate the Idea that they have the authority to go interfere in peoples lives. The only thing I hate more than that is Mormons. Too bad the plans to eradicate them in the 1800's didn't work out. It was legal to kill any and all mormons in Missouri until 1976. So if this was any other group of people I would be outraged. Mormons, I could care less. I hate the state, and I hate the Idea that they have the authority to go interfere in peoples lives.

The only thing I hate more than that is Mormons. Too bad the plans to eradicate them in the 1800’s didn’t work out.

It was legal to kill any and all mormons in Missouri until 1976.

So if this was any other group of people I would be outraged. Mormons, I could care less.

]]> By: Brian http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87187 Brian Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:59:31 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87187 The problem with statutes being copyright-protected is that it is outside the scope of intellectual property's intent. IP was created to promote innovation. Legislators don't need that sort of encouragement to "innovate" with the law. The problem with statutes being copyright-protected is that it is outside the scope of intellectual property’s intent.

IP was created to promote innovation. Legislators don’t need that sort of encouragement to “innovate” with the law.

]]> By: Scooby http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87182 Scooby Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:45:24 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87182 Can the parody guys only do one printing? If each printing is going to get bought up by News Corp employees, I'd think that they've got an express train to the best sellers list. Does WSJ have one of those, or just NYT? Can the parody guys only do one printing? If each printing is going to get bought up by News Corp employees, I’d think that they’ve got an express train to the best sellers list. Does WSJ have one of those, or just NYT?

]]> By: Kit Smith http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87159 Kit Smith Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:37:27 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87159 @ chsw: I prefer the "Buy up the parody" method far more than the "Let's assault the 1st Amendment by suing them for trademark and copyright infringement." Props to News Corp for going the classy route on that. @ chsw: I prefer the “Buy up the parody” method far more than the “Let’s assault the 1st Amendment by suing them for trademark and copyright infringement.” Props to News Corp for going the classy route on that.

]]> By: chsw http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87150 chsw Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:04:39 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87150 Whhoooops! Now that I saw the actual parody paper, I think that the editors used a model that is about 30 pounds heavier than Coulter. I think that it would have been funnier to graft Coulter's head atop a similarly skinny woman's body. However, that's just my opinion. They could have also given her a third one. chsw Whhoooops! Now that I saw the actual parody paper, I think that the editors used a model that is about 30 pounds heavier than Coulter. I think that it would have been funnier to graft Coulter’s head atop a similarly skinny woman’s body. However, that’s just my opinion.

They could have also given her a third one.

chsw

]]> By: chsw http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87149 chsw Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:58:59 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87149 A topless Ann Coulter? The woman makes Kate Moss look fat. What is there to see? Sorry, Ann. You are brainy, you have a beautiful face, but you are basically a beanpole. AFAIK, next edition might feature Helen Thomas. And Mr. Murdoch, you are wasting money buying up those parody papers. If anything, the parody reinforces brand strength. chsw A topless Ann Coulter? The woman makes Kate Moss look fat. What is there to see? Sorry, Ann. You are brainy, you have a beautiful face, but you are basically a beanpole.

AFAIK, next edition might feature Helen Thomas.

And Mr. Murdoch, you are wasting money buying up those parody papers. If anything, the parody reinforces brand strength.

chsw

]]> By: Sam http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87147 Sam Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:57:12 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87147 mjhlaw, I am happy to apologize if this was a private, cultish organization that wasn't abusing kids and forcing them to get married at age 14. But considering that this is a group <i>well-known</i> for this sort of behavior, I think it's worth noting that it was probably occurring within the compound. But again, if it wasn't, I'll happily apologize. mjhlaw,

I am happy to apologize if this was a private, cultish organization that wasn’t abusing kids and forcing them to get married at age 14. But considering that this is a group well-known for this sort of behavior, I think it’s worth noting that it was probably occurring within the compound. But again, if it wasn’t, I’ll happily apologize.

]]> By: Tom G http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87120 Tom G Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:38:29 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87120 I've read several postings (about the raid of the polygamist's compound) on different websites with anarchist or libertarian viewpoints, and one common point made is that regardless of how justified the raid was, separating the children from their mothers AFTERWARDS and placing them as wards of the "state" is a terrible thing. It's possible for both the cult leaders AND the intervening state forces to be evil. I’ve read several postings (about the raid of the polygamist’s compound) on different websites with anarchist or libertarian viewpoints, and one common point made is that regardless of how justified the raid was, separating the children from their mothers AFTERWARDS and placing them as wards of the “state” is a terrible thing. It’s possible for both the cult leaders AND the intervening state forces to be evil.

]]> By: FP http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87108 FP Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:09:42 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87108 Re Oregon. Gov. Teddy K n' Co. clearly are running low on cash and need to bolster the coffers. Maybe all the measure 37 claims or I guess the special legislative session really didn't get anything worked out (we meet every two years here in Or and they ran short last year to get everything they wanted done). Yet another colossal waste of my tax dollars. Re Oregon. Gov. Teddy K n’ Co. clearly are running low on cash and need to bolster the coffers. Maybe all the measure 37 claims or I guess the special legislative session really didn’t get anything worked out (we meet every two years here in Or and they ran short last year to get everything they wanted done). Yet another colossal waste of my tax dollars.

]]> By: Thomas Paine's Goiter http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87107 Thomas Paine's Goiter Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:08:55 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87107 Sooooooo, promote thin, go to jail. Promote fat, go to jail. Cool. Sooooooo, promote thin, go to jail.

Promote fat, go to jail.

Cool.

]]> By: Kit Smith http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87098 Kit Smith Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:10:45 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87098 The two stories I find most interesting in the daily links are: 1) Major commercial airline travel had zero fatalities last year -- why weren't there any? Not that I'm complaining; success in preventing tragic accidents with fiery death and an ensuing cable news network feeding frenzy/masturbatory sensationalism about needing more cable news is a good thing in my book any day. But what caused the success? Luck? Regulation? Industry self-policing? Understanding the cause will hopefully allow us to continue creating success. 2) The state of Oregon claims it’s public laws are protected by copyright -- Seriously? Public works, financed by public dollars, are subject to copyright? Do they sue for infringement if another state implements the same law? How ridiculous! I would hope that this kind of idiocy would only bolster more people who realize that rational copyright laws are important to a solid capitalistic economy, but apparently the reasonable people don't have the financial stake required to buy some legislators to promote more for fair use. This kind of stuff coming from the government itself (albeit a state government, but government none the less) ought to be an absurd parody on the state of copyright laws in our country but instead just points out that it's getting worse. The two stories I find most interesting in the daily links are:

1) Major commercial airline travel had zero fatalities last year — why weren’t there any? Not that I’m complaining; success in preventing tragic accidents with fiery death and an ensuing cable news network feeding frenzy/masturbatory sensationalism about needing more cable news is a good thing in my book any day. But what caused the success? Luck? Regulation? Industry self-policing? Understanding the cause will hopefully allow us to continue creating success.

2) The state of Oregon claims it’s public laws are protected by copyright — Seriously? Public works, financed by public dollars, are subject to copyright? Do they sue for infringement if another state implements the same law? How ridiculous! I would hope that this kind of idiocy would only bolster more people who realize that rational copyright laws are important to a solid capitalistic economy, but apparently the reasonable people don’t have the financial stake required to buy some legislators to promote more for fair use. This kind of stuff coming from the government itself (albeit a state government, but government none the less) ought to be an absurd parody on the state of copyright laws in our country but instead just points out that it’s getting worse.

]]> By: Bronwyn http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87095 Bronwyn Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:05:46 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87095 Who's published a good, comprehensive review of the before and current goings-on in Texas? All I have seen are piecemeal, er, pieces. And I'd like to thank you, RB, for posting a collection of substantial stories to see me through lunchtime. And I'll add the totally worthless question - I wonder how much the <i>Big Love</i> producers are drooling over this story? Who’s published a good, comprehensive review of the before and current goings-on in Texas? All I have seen are piecemeal, er, pieces.

And I’d like to thank you, RB, for posting a collection of substantial stories to see me through lunchtime.

And I’ll add the totally worthless question - I wonder how much the Big Love producers are drooling over this story?

]]> By: Tritone http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87089 Tritone Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:07:55 +0000 http://www.theagitator.com/2008/04/17/morning-links-38/#comment-87089 Remind me to never take an express elevator. Remind me to never take an express elevator.

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